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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVance is terrifying......
I only happened to listen to CBS Morning Show...yea...they played a snippet of Vance's podcast lies and NEVER disputed them.... I am totally overwhelmed with anxiety.
He is to replace tRump if it comes to that..... OMG he is the same thing....
I don't know what America looks like anymore.....

Mysterian
(5,924 posts)Is this what the American people want for a leader? Must we follow a path of complete destruction before the gullible fools, brainwashed by the corporate media, realize they have been lied to?
FarPoint
(14,205 posts)Not disputed with FACTS..... that tells me the Lies win....
TheBlackAdder
(29,687 posts)If he were to die in office, that would be one of his final Fuck You's to the world.
BoRaGard
(7,526 posts)what a disgrace to journalism they have become
yardwork
(68,038 posts)FarPoint
(14,205 posts)He is trying to gain support for taking over for the orange menace.... He is spewing same style rhetoric with Haitians eating cats in Springfield Ohio...
JI7
(92,627 posts)as our nominee and we should be able to beat him.
NoMoreRepugs
(11,613 posts)popsdenver
(471 posts)at the accelerated rate they are going, even the mid-term is in question............
Voters, especially MAGAot voters should have woken up when Trump was saying: "vote for me, just this one last time, and you will never need to vote again"............WTF did they think he meant by that statement?????????????? MAGAot voting in 2024 was just extra insurance, I truly believe that the voting results in the Swing states was hacked and manipulated by Elon......Trump even publicly stated that Elon had helped with getting the votes because Musk knows a great deal about computers.......
The fact that Trump & Republicans are now throwing Elon and MAGAot voters under the bus, further proves they are no longer needed and will be thrown under the bus. Just like he has done with everyone his entire life, the minute they have outgrown their usefulness.....
Everyone surrounding him has to constantly verbally worship him and build him up.....like his cabinet the last time they met with him.....I got nauseated at hearing each one of them, around the entire table, first telling him how wonderful he was, and praising what a great leader he is......
Each cabinet member trying to out do the praise of the cabinet member(s) before them......I was shocked that all of them didn't get on their knees and open their mouths wide..........
live love laugh
(15,882 posts)Every time people point away from the problem and to the next election it only gets worse.
Elections are not going to change much money will.
The reich is focusing on stopping and criminalizing left organizations because money goes to places like ActBlue that help people vote against them.
Votes have to happen at the 🏧 not the ballot box.
bigtree
(92,511 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 16, 2025, 09:58 AM - Edit history (1)
...he's just another cult member who will be deactivated by the mob if and when the host dies.
He has a following like Jeb, or more like maga Marco.
chicoescuela
(2,298 posts)no_hypocrisy
(53,048 posts)The non-cable FOX network.
dalton99a
(90,199 posts)BattleRow
(1,798 posts)Nothing seems to stick to him
niyad
(127,209 posts)Mysterian
(5,924 posts)If they bought that make-up splattered ghoul, they will buy anyone.
Elessar Zappa
(16,362 posts)I know, it doesnt make sense. But hes probably the most effective cult leader since Hitler. Vance (or anyone else, for that matter) doesnt have it.
Jilly_in_VA
(13,028 posts)I think he's just saying what he's expected to. I think he's a chameleon and changes color with whoever's in charge. When he's in charge he'll be a little more "white bread" and boring. Which is not to say he won't be bad---I think he will---but he has no charisma and will not be able to rally MAGAor get away with the egregious kind of crap the orange slime does.
themaguffin
(4,672 posts)CanonRay
(15,610 posts)KS Toronado
(21,260 posts)like all of tsf's ass-kissers are saying? They all know it's a lie!
FarPoint
(14,205 posts)I feel we are trapped....
Fla Dem
(27,074 posts)The only good part would be he probably wouldn't have the retribution list that Trump has. However, Vance is a protege of Peter Thiel. Theil would wind up being the guy pulling all of Vance's puppet strings.
Ohioboy
(3,778 posts)Vance is trying to make it sound like a giant conspiracy from "the Left".
Talk about dangerous rhetoric...
Crunchy Frog
(27,979 posts)He's young enough that he could be in power for the next 40 years.
Elessar Zappa
(16,362 posts)He would get stomped in 2028.
Crunchy Frog
(27,979 posts)JustAnotherGen
(37,042 posts)They wouldn't show these clips without advising what they lies were and providing the TRUTH.
They refuse.
We are on our own here.
Mysterian
(5,924 posts)https://www.freepress.net/who-owns-media
JustAnotherGen
(37,042 posts)of Dan Rather are over.
Fil1957
(222 posts)popsdenver
(471 posts)that if something happens to trump and Vance gets put in the presidency, the 2025 crowd will get him to appoint who they want as VP.
Maybe Steven Miller, then the Republican controlled House, would impeach Vance in the morning and in the afternoon the Republican controlled senate would find him guilty.......
At this point, I don't think there is ANY corrupt skulduggery that the Republicans directing things from the shadows, won't do......
OldBaldy1701E
(9,043 posts)Krasnov is a greedy blowhard.
Vance is a soulless tool.
I find the second one to be more frightening.
They're just trying to stay on the air, after seeing what he did to PBS...
relayerbob
(7,270 posts)He is not the mastermind, nor the controller, behind all this. He is the face of the cult. Thiel, and his disciple, Vance, Miller and a batch of sleazier people, including Putin, some of whom remain in the background, are pulling the strings.
popsdenver
(471 posts)Trump is just a puppet to them..........Just like Reagan was to the HWBush CABAL, and just like WBush was to the Cheney/Rumsfeld CABAL.....
For 24 years HWBush and Cheney/Rumsfeld ran rough shod over the country and our beloved Democracy setting up this coup de gras......
Those in the Shadows directing this shit show are getting more brazen in their actions with every day that passes........
AND, we ain't seen nothing yet, in my opinion...........
I laugh at all the Republican Politicians and those surrounding Trump, scrambling around, biting, kicking, trying to claw themselves into the top 1%, before the hammer falls..........
usonian
(20,475 posts)
They bought an election and want ROI.
Quand Le Roi es mort.
Vance takes after his dad.

Aristus
(70,855 posts)Vance has all the charisma of beige wallpaper.
D_Master81
(2,197 posts)This is what the GOP is now. They will change when they have to but right now they dont have to. To run for President in the future you will have to promise to carry on the Trump agenda and take it further.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,347 posts)misanthrope
(9,152 posts)His health is better. Plus, while Trump is enslaved to his own psychological issues and narcissism, Vance is enslaved to those of the Tech Bros. Vance is harder to manipulate.