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AStern

(513 posts)
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 07:20 PM Sep 15

The Nation: Charlie Kirk's Legacy Deserves No Mourning

Charles James Kirk, 31, died on Wednesday from a gunshot to the neck at a Utah Valley University campus event just as he was trying to deflect a question about mass shootings by suggesting they were largely a function of gang violence. He died with a net worth of $12 million, which he made by espousing horrific and bigoted views in the name of advancing Christian nationalism. The foundation of his empire was the group he cofounded and led, Turning Point USA, which is a key youth-recruitment arm of the MAGA movement. Kirk was able to launch Turning Point at the age of 18 because he received money from Tea Party member Bill Montgomery, right-wing donor Foster Feiss, and his own father, also a prolific right-wing donor. He was an unrepentant racist, transphobe, homophobe, and misogynist who often wrapped his bigotry in Bible verses because there was no other way to pretend that it was morally correct. He had children, as do many vile people.

It is rude of me to say all of this, because we live in a culture where manners are often valued more than truth. That is why a slew of pundits and politicians have raced to portray Kirk’s activities, which harmed many vulnerable people, in a positive light—and to give him the benefit of the doubt that he did not grant to anyone who wasn’t white, Christian, straight, and male. California Governor Gavin Newsom framed Kirk’s project as a healthy democratic exercise: “The best way to honor Charlie’s memory is to continue his work: engage with each other, across ideology, through spirited discourse. In a democracy, ideas are tested through words and good-faith debate.” This downwardly defines both “discourse” and “good-faith.”

There is no requirement to take part in this whitewashing campaign, and refusing to join in doesn’t make anyone a bad person. It’s a choice to write an obituary that begins “Joseph Goebbels was a gifted marketer and loving father to six children.”

Many of the facile defenses of Kirk and his legacy are predicated on the idea that it’s acceptable to spread hateful ideas advocating for the persecution of perceived enemies as long you dress them up in a posture of debate. This is just class privilege. The man who smeared Black women like Ketanji Brown Jackson and Michelle Obama whom he claimed had benefited from affirmative action, saying, ‘you do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously,” said it while wearing a nice shirt and a tie on a podcast instead of tattered overalls in the parking lot of a rural Walmart. That does not make it any less racist.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/charlie-kirk-assassination-maga/

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The Nation: Charlie Kirk's Legacy Deserves No Mourning (Original Post) AStern Sep 15 OP
Rec. progressoid Sep 15 #1
Charlie Kirk was a pos. period n/t sammythecat Sep 15 #2
Or any memerance at all. Throw him in the hole and forget him. marble falls Sep 15 #3
Good obit markie Sep 15 #4
The best article to date malaise Sep 15 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author pbmus Sep 15 #6
He was a racist, misogynist, and white supremacist. I believe should have been shunned, but not shot. surfered Sep 15 #7
That so MANY have completely dismissed B.See Sep 15 #8
KNR niyad Sep 15 #9
bookmarking proud patriot Sep 15 #10
DURec leftstreet Sep 15 #11
The world is a better place without him. Shambala Sep 15 #12
K&R ReRe Sep 15 #13
K&R for, & LIMBAUGH loved Xmas and HITLER loved dogs. UTUSN Tuesday #14

Response to AStern (Original post)

surfered

(9,320 posts)
7. He was a racist, misogynist, and white supremacist. I believe should have been shunned, but not shot.
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 09:05 PM
Sep 15

B.See

(6,712 posts)
8. That so MANY have completely dismissed
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 09:08 PM
Sep 15

what this man has done and said, in his willful LIES, distortion, and legitimization of divisive racism, bigotry, and HATE SPEECH, only PROVES how far America has fallen from any semblance of the higher ideas and PRINCIPLES we once CLAIMED we stood for.

World beacon of democracy? NO MORE.

ReRe

(11,987 posts)
13. K&R
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 10:39 PM
Sep 15

Written by Elizabeth Spiers. I agree with someone else in this thread: It's a great Obit of CK

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