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applegrove

(128,272 posts)
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 06:26 PM Sep 15

Vance Explains Why National Unity Is Impossible

Vance Explains Why National Unity Is Impossible

September 15, 2025 at 5:25 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 124 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2025/09/15/vance-explains-why-national-unity-is-impossible/


Vice President JD Vance said that he is “desperate” for national unity after Charlie Kirk’s killing but that finding common ground with people who celebrated the assassination of his friend is impossible, the AP reports.

Said Vance: “I want it so badly that I will tell you a difficult truth. We can only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable.”


Applegrove:

Oh you mean all Democratic politicians stood against violence against Kirk vs. the ones on the right who said or did nothing when the former speaker of the Minesota legislature and her husband were murdered?
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Vance Explains Why National Unity Is Impossible (Original Post) applegrove Sep 15 OP
TRUMP PARDONED THE J6 THUGS Skittles Sep 15 #1
Trump is the arbiter of reality now DSandra Sep 15 #7
you got that right Skittles Sep 15 #8
Shoving Kirk the Jerk down everyone's throat wasn't going to be a winner. Klarkashton Sep 15 #2
someone give the wingnuts a great big mirror eShirl Sep 15 #3
Can vampires even see their reflections? BattleRow Sep 15 #15
We need to strongly push back in all media newdeal2 Sep 15 #4
to be fair Skittles Sep 15 #9
By "people" he means liberals Diraven Sep 15 #5
Unity. "...only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable." Uh, huh-J6 JDV? Pfttt... electric_blue68 Sep 15 #6
He wants unity on the far right. thought crime Sep 15 #33
The fact he says shit like this kwolf68 Sep 15 #10
To justify a new civil war 2na fisherman Sep 15 #11
this seems related Be Leave On Sep 15 #12
We All Know the Drill... homegirl Sep 15 #13
Like killing your mom and dad .then.. BattleRow Sep 15 #17
Not since the 90's... slightlv Sep 15 #20
it's far worse than that Wiz Imp Sep 15 #14
Gaslighting 🧩 of 💩 JCMach1 Sep 15 #16
So, it's my way or the highway..... HuskiesHowls Sep 15 #18
Yep. Be reasonable, do it my way...nt Wounded Bear Sep 15 #22
He just doesn't get it. mdbl Sep 15 #19
he has zero interest in unity Skittles Sep 15 #29
J.D. wants whatever Trump wants and Trump doesn't want unity. Septua Sep 15 #21
Since selling his soul to Satan, he seems so alienated and unable to relate to people struggle4progress Sep 15 #23
did he ever relate to anyone as a human being? Skittles Sep 15 #30
He is desperate, but not helping liberal N proud Sep 15 #24
Gee, JD, maybe you should try identifying the real threat to America Warpy Sep 15 #25
Now that miller et al are vilifying the left maybe there will be no unity vapor2 Sep 15 #26
I'm the oppressor -- and I make the rules. Duncan Grant Sep 15 #27
He isn't entirely wrong KentuckyWoman Sep 15 #28
He's lazy and disingenuous. Bristlecone Sep 15 #31
Couch Humper...GFY. roamer65 Sep 15 #32
Because you, all P25 of you! Clouds Passing Tuesday #34

newdeal2

(4,144 posts)
4. We need to strongly push back in all media
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 06:41 PM
Sep 15

They are setting a dangerous narrative that is completely false.

Diraven

(1,593 posts)
5. By "people" he means liberals
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 06:46 PM
Sep 15

Conservatives, of course, are free to be as violent and hateful as they want.

electric_blue68

(23,917 posts)
6. Unity. "...only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable." Uh, huh-J6 JDV? Pfttt...
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 06:49 PM
Sep 15

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😑

kwolf68

(8,141 posts)
10. The fact he says shit like this
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 07:13 PM
Sep 15

As well as so many other Republicans is an example of why the media is a farce. This crap should be called out far and wide, instead the horrific media allows this propaganda to be disseminated.

2na fisherman

(96 posts)
11. To justify a new civil war
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 07:41 PM
Sep 15

If national unity is impossible, then that means we are only left with conflict. And he must know that leads him to that same terrible conclusion of North vs South and he seems to relish it. So to him, this is his weasel way of saying political violence is necessary. I can only think of one worse Presidential successor to Trump than him, and that is Stephen Miller.

homegirl

(1,856 posts)
13. We All Know the Drill...
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 07:56 PM
Sep 15

So let me get this straight

The party that has had its surrogates and media figures saying that the Democrats “hate America” and are “trying to destroy the country” since the 90s are now complaining about the rhetoric and discourse in the country???? You have called us “baby killers” and immigrants trying to better their lives “illegals”. You’ve spent decades dehumanizing anyone without your beliefs and ideologies. But please go on with your usual victimhood bullshit that you always spew that you’re the victim at every turn.

BattleRow

(1,807 posts)
17. Like killing your mom and dad .then..
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 08:08 PM
Sep 15

throwing yourself on the court's mercy cause you're an orphan.

slightlv

(6,580 posts)
20. Not since the 90's...
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 08:56 PM
Sep 15

since at least the 60's... we've had decades of slander heaped upon us. Yet the number of "left wing lunatics with guns" is so low as to be remarkable!

Wiz Imp

(7,332 posts)
14. it's far worse than that
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 07:58 PM
Sep 15

Not a single Democratic official that I can find reacted to Kirk's death with anything other than strong condemnation of political violence. Meanwhile dozens, if not hundreds, of Republicans have reacted by calling for civil war, calling Democrats the "death party" and the like with Trump leading the charge.

Today, Vance himself said 'left-wing extremism' helped lead to Charlie Kirk's killing. Hey Vance, how about you quit being a hypocritical asshole? As someone pointed out, I can think of only 2 major politicians who ever directly said Trump was as bad as Hitler - JD Vance & RFK, JR.

Septua

(2,880 posts)
21. J.D. wants whatever Trump wants and Trump doesn't want unity.
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 09:10 PM
Sep 15

As Rachel tells us, don't watch what they say; watch what they do. Trump has invested 10 years in stoking the division and hatred between MAGA and the rest of us. It gives him a continuous supply of distraction tactics and excuses to play dictator...

And now, he can go to war against all the "radical leftists" that are destroying the country...sarcastic remark, of course.

Warpy

(113,927 posts)
25. Gee, JD, maybe you should try identifying the real threat to America
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 09:29 PM
Sep 15

and clue phone, Sonny, it;s not any of your fellow citizens who don't believe in your screwball politics or crackpot religion.

It's Putin and the criminal organization he heads.

There, I just did 99% of your life's work for you. Now all you have to do is stop being suck a piss ant and all the pieces will fall into place.

You're welcome.

KentuckyWoman

(7,287 posts)
28. He isn't entirely wrong
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 10:03 PM
Sep 15

It is really difficult to find common ground with people who think like this. These people clearly want me and mine dead. If JD really wanted to lower the temperature, he's start here.







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