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AntiFascist

(13,639 posts)
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 02:38 PM Yesterday

The Far Right is now starting to declare Civil War, but we're not taking the bait...

and we shouldn't be surprised by this:

Trump has repeatedly identified the Left broadly as being lunatics and needing to be prosecuted for speaking out against him. Hegseth, the US Secretary of War (yes, that's his title now!), has identified Democrats as the "enemy within" who are really the primary enemies of America needing to be suppressed, while Trump sends Federal Troops to invade Democratic cities.

We need to take a step back and understand why this is happening. The oligarchs who have funded mouthpieces like Charlie Kirk and the MAGA movement and who are taking over social media, in addition to streaming and broadcast media, do not want a government that is run "by the people, for the people" because they see it as a threat to their way of life. They surely don't appreciate the Epstein investigations, and they continue to be paranoid about anyone who is socialist-leaning, like Mamdani, rising up and taking power away from their unregulated capitalists.

The wealthy oligarchs view the impoverished as useless citizens who may as well be euthanized, and unless the elderly have massive wealth they may as well die early because "we all have to die sometime." They feel that the promise of the American Dream should also die because capitalist slavery serves their purposes much better.

Does this make me sound like a raging Marxist? Well, I'm not. I believe in well-regulated capitalism and social programs for those who need an alternative. Also, please don't try to engage me in a debate about the advantages of Communism; it really is exhausting and not helping our cause at this point in time.

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The Far Right is now starting to declare Civil War, but we're not taking the bait... (Original Post) AntiFascist Yesterday OP
Majority of Americans are trying to survive this economy................... Lovie777 Yesterday #1
HateMongers Will Not Replace Us! MrWowWow 23 hrs ago #2
The lionization and martyrdom of Kirk is particularly disastrous... AntiFascist 21 hrs ago #5
If it wasn't him, it would be something else KentuckyWoman 15 hrs ago #15
I understood your position and agree with most, but I offer my thoughts. Bread and Circuses 22 hrs ago #3
You're very welcome and I understand your point... AntiFascist 21 hrs ago #7
Thanks, I don't think the Oligarchs feel threatened. Rather, they feel empowered.... Bread and Circuses 21 hrs ago #10
Adam Smith in his book Wealth of Nation, multigraincracker 22 hrs ago #4
under ray gun bush1 and bush jr. and now ,,,, AllaN01Bear 21 hrs ago #9
Jefferson wanted protection against monopolies written into our founding documents misanthrope 16 hrs ago #13
I won't take the bait but the fisherman better watch his ass n/t Cheezoholic 21 hrs ago #6
"Do no harm; take no shit..." EarthFirst 21 hrs ago #8
Perhaps the pieces are all finally in place, yellow dahlia 16 hrs ago #11
they'll become more unhinged than they already are Skittles 16 hrs ago #12
Money and power.... multigraincracker 15 hrs ago #14

Lovie777

(20,176 posts)
1. Majority of Americans are trying to survive this economy...................
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 02:44 PM
Yesterday

and most know the GQP gaslights, make up shit, lies, cheat and steal and are bat shit crazy.

AntiFascist

(13,639 posts)
5. The lionization and martyrdom of Kirk is particularly disastrous...
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 05:09 PM
21 hrs ago

raising the ideals of white Christian Nationalists to new heights.

KentuckyWoman

(7,282 posts)
15. If it wasn't him, it would be something else
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 10:59 PM
15 hrs ago

They are going to power and money grab as hard and fast as humanly possible. Any excuse will do especially when they have every media outlet in America shoveling their false narrative. They also have SCOTUS to rubber stamp anything they want.

Bread and Circuses

(1,139 posts)
3. I understood your position and agree with most, but I offer my thoughts.
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 04:20 PM
22 hrs ago

I don’t see this as “ bait “. The republicans already know that D elected leaders are not going to spearhead a response,

It’s not bait. It is a knife at our throats.
BUT, we do NEED to respond . Not step back, but thrust forward with millions on the street to defend democracy NOW!

We need a Lech Wałęsa!!!

I agree 100% about your comments in the oligarchs.

This is our only chance to shut down the hate and lies. It may be too late because the media and corporations have already chosen sides - fascism.

Thanks,

AntiFascist

(13,639 posts)
7. You're very welcome and I understand your point...
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 05:17 PM
21 hrs ago

I'm only suggesting that we step back for a moment to understand why the wealthy far right oligarchs feel threatened and are funding all of this chaos and messaging. Fight back we must, with a deep understanding of the opponents we're fighting.

Bread and Circuses

(1,139 posts)
10. Thanks, I don't think the Oligarchs feel threatened. Rather, they feel empowered....
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 05:42 PM
21 hrs ago

The oversight and regulatory agencies have been shuttered. The republican voters approve of tax breaks for the rich, and all corporations and billionaires need to do is BRIBE the regime. They’ve got all Aces and so now they can push for complete domination and control.

The strategy works. Divide and sew hate. They get people engaged in a culture war, rather than a class war.

multigraincracker

(36,270 posts)
4. Adam Smith in his book Wealth of Nation,
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 04:21 PM
22 hrs ago

the man that wrote the book on Capitalism said markets must be regulated to prevent monopolies.
They must have skipped that page.

misanthrope

(9,148 posts)
13. Jefferson wanted protection against monopolies written into our founding documents
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 10:34 PM
16 hrs ago

They had already had a snootful from the British monopolies on colonial trade.

EarthFirst

(3,810 posts)
8. "Do no harm; take no shit..."
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 05:18 PM
21 hrs ago

If this doesn’t become the party rallying cry; well then they’ve given up…

yellow dahlia

(3,018 posts)
11. Perhaps the pieces are all finally in place,
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 09:50 PM
16 hrs ago

from the perspective of the "oligarchs".

With AI, everyone else will be expendable. "They" don't need us anymore.

Skittles

(167,354 posts)
12. they'll become more unhinged than they already are
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 10:29 PM
16 hrs ago

I more and more Americans will wake up but who the fuck knows anymore

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