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(NewsNation) A Texas Tech University student was arrested after a video showing a woman mocking Charlie Kirk mourners went viral and caught the attention of elected officials.
Video footage shows a woman chanting, F yall, yo homie dead, as she bounces up and down in a dancing motion on the schools campus in Lubbock, Texas. The individual recording and the woman can be heard exchanging words, to which the man refers to her as evil.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott responded to the video, which had received millions of views as of Monday morning, writing on social media: Definitely picked the wrong school to taunt the death of Charlie Kirk. Thanks Texas Tech.
In another post with a picture of the woman being handcuffed by police, Abbot wrote, This is what happened to the person who was mocking Charlie Kirks assassination at Texas Tech. FAFO [F*** Around, Find Out].
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/student-arrested-video-mocking-charlie-111916312.html
The woman sounds classless but it doesn't sound like she did anything illegal.

Justice Brandeis
(288 posts)Graceless? Classless? Immature? Perhaps, but that is not illegal.
TheProle
(3,674 posts)assault, battery, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, according to this article:
https://www.news18.com/world/he-got-shot-in-head-student-held-for-mocking-charlie-kirks-assassination-ws-l-9573982.html
Heidi
(58,780 posts)It just reiterated what shes accused of. Anyone can be accused of anything.
TheProle
(3,674 posts)Heidi
(58,780 posts)Daveigh
(62 posts)Since youre seeking info, I can share whats been reported, but I certainly cant speak to the veracity of the charges. Obviously shes simply been accused; shes not guilty of a single offense.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15098553/Texas-Tech-student-arrested-Camryn-Giselle-Booker-Charlie-Kirk.html
Booker was then taken into custody and was charged with battery, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest and was cited for assault.
She was released on a $200 bond the next day, the Lubbock County Sheriff's Office confirmed to the Daily Mail.
Reports online said that she was expelled from the school for her behavior - however Texas Tech has not confirmed the move.
Heidi
(58,780 posts)JCMach1
(28,980 posts)Perhaps tap, or nudge would describe it better, but it surely isn't assault.
Heidi
(58,780 posts)and unfair.
TexasBushwhacker
(21,002 posts)You cannot touch anyone in a situation like this. ANYONE
FWIW, her bail was a whopping $200.
JCMach1
(28,980 posts)Out of university?
TexasBushwhacker
(21,002 posts)FWIW, I don't think Lubbock is a safe place for her now though.
JCMach1
(28,980 posts)Around our universities here.
Greg_In_SF
(584 posts)Police arrest people suspected of crimes. It's not their job to prove them guilty.
Heidi
(58,780 posts)Thats why Im raising these concerns.
Greg_In_SF
(584 posts)She was arrested for allegedly assaulting one or more people and the courts will determine whether she is guilty or innocent.
Heidi
(58,780 posts)Just because shes charged with something doesnt mean she did it.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20644002
Greg_In_SF
(584 posts)She is suspected of committing a crime and was arrested for that. Whether or not she did commit a crime will be determined at a later date.
Happens all day every day, whether it's a traffic violation or murder.
Heidi
(58,780 posts)Greg_In_SF
(584 posts)then she is innocent. If she is found guilty then she is guilty. The police simply effected an arrest of someone who is suspected of a crime. That's their job. I don't see anything unjust about this arrest, nor do I see it as racially motivated.
The situation then escalated when Booker allegedly shoved several people, including an elderly veteran and a young mother with her child - which prompted a physical altercation that spread into the street.
Moostache
(10,783 posts)I will go into the way back here and relate an ancient story from my past to describe how this is optically bad and how its par for the course for local law enforcement actions as well... police arrest and the DA choose the prosecution of the case or the dismisal of the charges if they cannot get a conviction. Nothing burns a DA's ass more than bringing a case they can't win or are likely to lose.
In the fall of 1992, I was a student at Indiana University in Bloomington. My roomates and I were hosting a college party (i.e. - loud, lots of people, some underage drinking and likely drugs being consumed in the area). At some point, the police were called to the duplex we lived in and took the IDs of myself and a roomate and told us to break it up and keep it down. They left without arrests. That was at about 11PM or so. We sort of complied and the majority of the party goers were gone by 1:30AM, with only a few roomates and neighbors left in the shared parking lot being VERY loud and obnoxious - as drunk college students are wont to be... it was this outdoor revelry that angered someone and prompted a second call to the police.
This led to a return visit from the police. I was in the building, in a downstairs bedroom and not part of the 'disturbance' outside at all. My other ID'd roomate had left the premises to spend the evening at his girlfriend's place, when the police arrived again. This time, one of my underage (20) roomates got scared of an under-age consumption charge and he tried to flee....making it all of 20 yards before he was tackled (actually tripped on a tree root outside his lower floor window) and was arrested. At that point, another friend of mine, who was seriously inebriated, but inside the house, began yelling at the police to STFU and keep it down (thinking he was funny and antagonizing them because he assumed they would not do anything)...Wrong. They arrested him for obstruction and he ended up getting a fine and plea deal to avoid any further action.
Those secondary disturbances - now INSIDE the house as well as outside earlier - led the police to decide they were going to arrest ME for the actions of others because of that earlier visit and presentation of my identification as a resident.
So, instead of finishing my evening in my bed, I was left in a compromised position (no pants, no ID, no wallet) and handcuffed and taken into custody, booked for "disturbing the peace" and released at 8:45 AM Saturday AM in a pair of jail-issued sweat pants and paper 'slippers' (which were actually more like shoe covers). One of the things Bloomington PD loved to do then (and may very well still do today for all I know) was rouse off-campus parties and get arrests that would be expunged if the 'violators' pled guilty and did 20 hours of 'community service' - which meant cleaning up the stadium after football games or basketball games later in the year.
My underage roomate immediately pled out to accept "pre-trial diversion" and avoid a charge or anything permanent on his record. His case was dismissed after he paid court costs and a nominal fine ($100) - although some of our more raccous friends nearly got him hit with contempt charges when they were admonmished by the judge, from the bench during the sentencing hearing, for being out of order (loudly laughing when the charges of 'fleeing from an officer' and attempted evasion of law enforcement were read against him).
I decided that I was NOT going to take a pre-trial diversion plea, nor pay any fines, unless they could convict me (which I was reasonably sure they could not with the evidence available, but by no means certain). I decided I would go to trial instead; I was already released on my own recognizance, and got a court date and left. That case was held over my head by the DA from September of 1992 until June of 1993 - with 3 continuances to the prosecution (i.e. delays that they kept trying to get me to accept a larger $500 fine and plead guilty to public intoxication and pre-trial diversion instead to make the whole thing go away, which was offered by assistant DAs on two occassions). I was also threatened with additional charges of serving underage persons and illegal assembly at one point. It was a legal shake down. They wanted me to just take the rap, pay the fines and costs and then go away.
Well, I had already decided "fuck them". I was the one hauled OUT of bed and arrested with a pair of boxer shorts alone to wear, and taken to jail AFTER the party inside was dismissed and then only because of the actions of others outside the premises and unrelated directly to me or the previous law enforcement interaction brought them back.
In the end, after attempting to strong arm me into a guilty plea for a charge they had no chance of making stick and failing to get me to cave to their other "offers", I got a call from the DA's office on the morning before the court date to say that the charges had been dropped and would not be refiled and the case against me was dismissed. They tried to use my age and situation and the 'crimes' (misdemenaors at best) of others to force me to pay a fine and give in to the systemic abuse of student's rights. I won, but I also understand that th system of justice in America is HEAVILY tilted to those with $$$$ and influence and against those lacking either. Its a lesson I never forgot and one that I sadly see all to often in news coverage and stories today.
Our system of justice has always been two-tiered at best (far, far worse if you fall into tier 3 or lower - which is non-wealthy, non-white men). I was broke as hell, but I was also a white male, so I qualified for lesser coercion from the DA than I might have otherwise faced. The more things change, the more they stay the same in America. The differene now is the seeping into national and federal levels the kind of sleazy corruption and influence peddling that has ALWAYS been around, just more covert in the past.
The bigger concern to me now are judges that create a prosecution friendly environment not based on the public good, safety or the law, but rather on the political whims of the dominant party at the moment. This is the REAL danger for us all, because unlike my largely harmless and inconvenient interaction with the law 32 years ago, today we are seeing people arrested and brought to trial in situations where liberty and freedom are not protected by the courts the way they once were under the law. And once THAT principle is lost, it cannot be restored without a fundamental reset of the entire system. It is foundational and fundamental and it is really in peril right now...
Heidi
(58,780 posts)I agree 100 percent with you about the very real danger we face.
orangecrush
(26,709 posts)They beat the shit out of her while arresting her
Greg_In_SF
(584 posts)been no claims of such activity.
JT45242
(3,625 posts)She is guilty of disobeying the all powerful Oz aka Abbott the asshat
TheProle
(3,674 posts)Don't put your hands on people.
From a self-proclaimed lawyer: https://www.reddit.com/r/TexasTech/comments/1nhddmi/the_assault_on_campus/
Assault is split into different categories.
A regular assault that you think of, like punching someone, is a Class A misdemeanor which is punishable by up to a year in jail and a $4,000 fine.
However, an element of this assault is that the perpetrator must cause Bodily Injury which is physical pain, illness or impairment of physical condition.
Obviously, that doesn't apply to what happened in this video.
However, under a(3), it IS assault if you intentionally or knowingly cause contact with someone when you know or should reasonably know that contact will be regarded as offensive.
This is called simple assault and it is a class C misdemeanor, which is not punishable by jail time and can have up to a $500 fine.
It's a ticket, basically. Technically, people CAN be arrested for Class C misdemeanors, but it's not that common because it's a lot easier to just give people a citation for such a low level offense. I do find it a bit strange that she was arrested for this.
But then again, it's Lubbock, so I'm not surprised that it's full of chuds.
nowhere close to a first amendment issue.
Emile
(37,521 posts)was all staged.
Walleye
(42,469 posts)lame54
(38,394 posts)That protested funerals?
Precedent has been set that it's legal
And they guy who led that nonsense has been pushing up daisies for more than a decade now.
EdmondDantes_
(919 posts)Nothing about her celebrating Kirk's death.
Lurker Deluxe
(1,075 posts)What they did, and they were good at it, was to push the limits of free speech and taunt entities to act illegally in order to sue them.
They wanted people to punch them in the face.
They wanted the local government to ban their speech.
They wanted the counterprotest to be violent.
So they could sue, and make money, it was all about making money.
I have recently seen a video of some dumbass stomping through a Kirk memorial, kicking shit and destroying as much as possible before being yanked by some MAGATs. If he were just yelling and taunting and he got yanked ... he could sue. But no ... he was being an ass. Agree or not, keep you hands to yourself, do not destroy shit.
It really is not that hard.
Lovie777
(20,239 posts)Texas republicans are over stepping.
Celerity
(51,986 posts)Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
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Just Jerome
(344 posts)to be "uppity."
JoseBalow
(8,396 posts)
DFW
(58,929 posts)He doesnt need a legal reason to order someones arrest. Indeed, if Abbott ordered the arrest, and the arrest was not legal, the person arrested still needs to go through hoops to be released from what was an illegal arrest in the first place. For Abbott, if you shoot at someone, thats one thing, but if you publicly make fun of a Republican, you had better have both Clarence Darrow and Perry Mason on permanent retainer.
Torchlight
(5,693 posts)But I'm sure they'll assert a different reason.
GreenWave
(11,593 posts)Walleye
(42,469 posts)republianmushroom
(21,371 posts)Even when it is celebration time.