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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWelp, Kash Patel found a "destroyed note" that explained that the shooter did this because of leftist ideology.
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/inside-tyler-robinson-s-destroyed-note-left-before-charlie-kirk-s-shooting-i-m-going-to/ar-AA1MA7W1"According to Patel, the note read, I have the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it." On Monday morning, the FBI director told Fox News that the note was written before the shooting, and was at the suspect's home.
Regarding Robinson's note, Patel added, We have since learned the note - even though it was destroyed - we have found forensic evidence of the note and we have confirmed what the note said because our aggressive interview posture at the FBI," as reported by Daily Mail."
Apparently, the suspect wrote it and then destroyed it, but then the FBI was able to un-destroy it through aggressive interviewing techniques. As you might suspect, it confirmed that this was the fault of the entire left because they criticize Trump. The FBI is still confirming what other things the destroyed note said and will continue to release the terrible things it learns about how "the left" caused this as they continue to un-destroy the note in the coming weeks.
ON EDIT: I think this is apparent to most, but the title and last paragraph are sarcastic commentary. The two paragraphs that are quoted are real, direct quotes from Kash Patel said in an interview with Fox "News" relating to the 'destroyed' note.

Clouds Passing
(5,780 posts)still-prayin4rain
(498 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(58,334 posts)Eschew binary thinking. It is incredibly limiting and misdirecting. Binary thinking plays the maga game for them.
Clouds Passing
(5,780 posts)I did not literally mean that the files literally disappeared. Dont accuse me of things which are not true
Bernardo de La Paz
(58,334 posts)Thank you for clarifying. We all get misunderstood from time to time, so clarify.
The only thing I accused you of (perhaps) was binary thinking (all or nothing thinking) as revealed by what you wrote. That was all we have to go on. I'll accept that was not the case in this instance, so, fine, you were not binary thinking in this instance.
Clouds Passing
(5,780 posts)Dave says
(5,237 posts)It was clear you were joking. Maybe always add a sarcasm emoji to ward of misreading?
ananda
(33,133 posts)and the ones who can't.
In this world now, I really sympathize with the ones
who can't.
However, my funny bone aint goin' nowhere.
Quanto Magnus
(1,255 posts)Why are fellow DU'ers so hot to jump on each other?
quakerboy
(14,538 posts)Even here on DU, i dont see them on any of the top headlines, and havnt for days.
Torchlight
(5,689 posts)Good luck.
Bernardo de La Paz
(58,334 posts)Prairie Gates
(6,265 posts)
The destroyed note.
It's kind of like the purloined letter, but infinitely stupider.
ECL213
(409 posts)we are in the Upside-Down, my friend.
onethatcares
(16,915 posts)tucked under his boarding pass for the ark. Will miracles ever stop?
LeftInTX
(33,881 posts)yardwork
(68,038 posts)Walleye
(42,449 posts)I guess just to vindicate those who went off on us after the killing. The young man was born and raised in Utah went to Utah State University. He is not ever been a leftist. I think there are only two sides now not right and left, but maga and anti-Maga
Bernardo de La Paz
(58,334 posts)Their false narrative is constructed in the hopes of advancing a bogus authoritarian crackdown for which there are already tentative steps.
Walleye
(42,449 posts)Was so radicalized in a couple of years that he was willing to commit murder for the left, Im not even sure who theyre talking about. Lets see a manifesto or something. Fucking people are so vague all the time, thats how they get people to believe them.
Bernardo de La Paz
(58,334 posts)dpibel
(3,665 posts)No "s."
Bernardo de La Paz
(58,334 posts)JoseBalow
(8,392 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(58,334 posts)LeftInTX
(33,881 posts)Minecraft and numerous others obtained via torrents was his addiction. National Hispanic Scholar.
Fortunately, he was attending school in town. We moved him out of the dorm and took control of his computer.
He got his scholarship back after begging and graduated. But it's a real thing and I don't know what would have happened if he dropped out. Bright guy, who has been an engineer for 10 years. He even started his own company.
I could see something like that causing downward spiral.
I wouldn't be surprised if he started going downhill then and spent even more time gaming. Of course gaming addictions don't lead to violence, but they can mess up your life.
Tree Lady
(12,699 posts)Computer from my grandson. He got hooked early to gaming and it's kept him from college, from wanting to get ahead. He lived for free with my ex for years before his girlfriend got pregnant 3 yrs ago and moved his daughter across the states. Still took him years until ths last May to wake up and move back where she was, get a job in warehouse and now is visiting his daughter.
He is one of the many youth in late 20's wanting money without doing the work to get it, belongs to some group on X but won't talk about it. He didn't vote but if he did wouldn't be for our side.
yardwork
(68,038 posts)They spout all kinds of nonsense they've read on the internet. They spend way too much time in an echo chamber, exposed to trolls and who knows who else. They don't read the news or history.
It's a real concern.
LeftInTX
(33,881 posts)So, we put a bunch of parental control software on his computer etc etc etc. I had a program called Net Nanny where I could spy on him. I'm sure he circumvented it by installing Linux dual boot. But we watched that computer. And his grades went up the next semester. We also grounded him from going to Lubbock to see his GF (500 miles away)
I was a pretty much a pit bull mama!
It's not much recognized as a real addiction, yet it has hurt many lives.
markodochartaigh
(4,004 posts)when you are as far to the right as the maga base of the Republican party, almost every ideology in human history is to the left of you.
Walleye
(42,449 posts)Theres Trumpers and theres non-Trumpers thats it
markodochartaigh
(4,004 posts)there are only two factions, those who want to keep democracy in the US and those who are willing to end democracy in order to keep control.
In 2015 the Republican party put party before country and chose an authoritarian Strong Leader who was not committed to democracy as their candidate. Since that point democracy has been on life support in the US.
I think that it is inevitable that an ignorant and apathetic electorate will produce a situation in which the only issue which matters will end up being democracy itself. And we are there.
Bernardo de La Paz
(58,334 posts)X-axis: liberal / conservative on human rights and social rights and crime etc.
Y-axis: fiscally liberal / conservative.
LeftInTX
(33,881 posts)He wanted to drop the left/right label. It sorta makes sense to me.
I remember the Nazi inspired killer in WI.
People who go down extremist route and resort to killing people are not the norm. Most of them are non-voters and don't have a true political affiliation. They don't believe in civic engagement, but OTOH, they may have a history of complaining. There are so many sicko conspiracy theories available at one's fingertips these days.
You can still dissect, what motivated them later. But there is usually mental illness involved. The school shooter in MN hated everyone.
karynnj
(60,539 posts)Meaning the far right crazies, the smaller grouper of far left crazies, and every one else ranging from supporters of Bernie Sanders/AOC/Mamdani to Reagan/both Bush are ALL labelled radicals. Even though this includes everyone with any legitimate claim to being a being mainstream
Walleye
(42,449 posts)LeftInTX
(33,881 posts)The FBI may have flubbed evidence. The governor and Patel may have incited prejudice. Lack of evidence is the most likely reason a plea deal is offered. I think despite this, they likely have the evidence and won't offer a plea deal, but you never know.
All this motivation stuff from the Republicans is RW spin to get people worked up and support Trump's agenda.
Walleye
(42,449 posts)But maybe he wont have enough sense to do that. He is obviously not playing with a full deck.
LeftInTX
(33,881 posts)If the prosecution feels they may not got a verdict, then they will likely offer a deal.
Plea deals are also very common in low level cases because they save headaches for everyone.
I've seen numerous high profile murder cases where a plea deal was not offered, such as Darlie Routier's case. The evidence was flimsy, but they got her on death row and that was their goal.
Crunchy Frog
(27,975 posts)LymphocyteLover
(8,734 posts)Walleye
(42,449 posts)returnee
(656 posts)Ipso facto he is left wing. Dont you get it?
Ocelot II
(127,173 posts)Did they waterboard somebody who they thought might know what the note said? Or is weaselly little Patel who always looks like he's being goosed just talking the manly MAGA man talk for the benefit of Dear Leader?
Walleye
(42,449 posts)TommyT139
(1,870 posts)Although there's a lot of terrain between legitimate interviewing and interrogation and torture.
The psychology of what can make people confess can be missed...and the psychology behind what makes people falsely confess, or "embellish" an account -- that science can be easily ignored.
DET
(2,205 posts)I have to borrow that.
JoseBalow
(8,392 posts)
RobinA
(10,419 posts)somebody called the FBI before they were even out of bed and told them they had a confession.
Norbert
(7,348 posts)Maybe they can unlose the Epstein Files.
I know. Wishful thinking.
Scrivener7
(57,137 posts)sl8
(16,827 posts)https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/hindustan-times/
Emphasis mine.
still-prayin4rain
(498 posts)Wiz Imp
(7,085 posts)All the articles I've ever seen there were clearly biased to the right. That's why that media bias fact check site is totally unreliable. They themselves are clearly biased to the right. The promotion of propaganda claim, however, is true of Hindustan times.
sl8
(16,827 posts)Based on the little I read of their reasoning, it seems to be because of their reporting on Indian politics.
Ping Tung
(3,603 posts)sop
(16,013 posts)It sounds like they waterboarded the note. Patel didn't have to torture it, the FBI used "enhanced interrogation techniques" to acquire information from the note.
flvegan
(65,261 posts)- Soon to also be stated in the "un-destroyed" note, probably.
dalton99a
(90,187 posts)hlthe2b
(111,292 posts)(or evidence therein) consisted of... Pardon the dangling preposition, but I saw nothing that justified that headline...
Ocelot II
(127,173 posts)But it does suggest that goons from Patel's "reformed" FBI might have "aggressively interrogated" someone who saw the note until he invented something that sounded vaguely leftist.
"What did the note say, punk?"
"I don't know, I didn't see it!"
*WHACK*
"What did it say???"
"I don't know! Please don't hit me!"
*WHACK*
"Did it say anything about Antifa?"
"I don't know! I don't even know what that is?"
*WHACK*
"I'm asking you again, punk. Did the note mention Antifa? Or Black Lives Matter?"
*WHACK*
"I don't know... It might have..."
*WHACK*
"OK, yeah, it did. He loved Anfifa, Antipasto, whatever. Went to all their meetings. That's what the note said. How great it was. And Black Flies Matter. Them, too. Just don't hit me again."
still-prayin4rain
(498 posts)Ray Bruns
(5,592 posts)cornball 24
(1,560 posts)karynnj
(60,539 posts)His note would be consistent with being on the far right.
Wiz Imp
(7,085 posts)They're pretending that only "leftists" could hate Kirk, ignoring the existence of Nick Fuentes and Laura Loomer among many others on the right who despised him.
yardwork
(68,038 posts)I think they were told by Trump to frame it as "leftist ideology."
So far I e seen zero evidence but I think the OP was just quoting Patel.
hlthe2b
(111,292 posts)Other posters have suggested that the assumption is that MAGA is implying the ONLY ones who could possibly "not like" Kirk would be Leftists. They are probably deluded enough to believe that--after all, they think Trump is the returned "Messiah..."
yardwork
(68,038 posts)As I've posted before I imagine it's a mishmash of half-baked ideas and nonsense gleaned from hopping around the internet, interacting in echo chambers and never fact-checking anything.
I disagree with TrumpCo's framing of "leftist ideology." It's just nonsense they use to scare people. By compressing all beliefs to the right of Trump into one "leftist ideology" they can call Kamala Harris a communist because hey, it's all leftist, isn't it?
It's so stupid it makes my head hurt.
LeftInTX
(33,881 posts)No other info other than quotes from Patel. So, it's probably BS RW spin.
Dulcinea
(9,116 posts)And we're supposed to believe this crap? Give me a break.
still-prayin4rain
(498 posts)glasses, so it will not be released) and it confirmed that the left is bad and Trump is good.
What is so unbelievable about that?
OLDMDDEM
(2,721 posts)sheshe2
(93,712 posts)He solved the problem by reading his mind!
lapfog_1
(31,270 posts)niyad
(127,209 posts)no idea why it popped up.
peggysue2
(12,177 posts)They 'undestoyed' the killer's note. What a giant leap forward for police investigations. Is this a riff on the movie Minority Report? Is there a tank in the FBI with PreCogs reading notes before they're obliterated?
Tom Cruise would be proud.
For the rest of us? Total BS.
fargone
(441 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(34,045 posts)Kash that is not the OP
miyazaki
(2,532 posts)
Ocelot II
(127,173 posts)miyazaki
(2,532 posts)being 'put to the question'.
Back to the good old days.
Qutzupalotl
(15,494 posts)if he survives until court. So don't worry about Kash Patel and the Magic Undestroyed Note that Says what the FBI Wants to Hear. We'll know soon enough.
still-prayin4rain
(498 posts)go against their narrative.
Qutzupalotl
(15,494 posts)To your point, maybe they could offer him life in prison as a bribe to say what they want him to. But that seems politically untenable; if he claims to be a lefty, Kirk's base will call for his head. They already are, with little evidence.
So he's a dead man either way, and even life in prison is no picnic. I think he will say his piece when he can, with his actual motivations, and in court for maximum effect rather than cave to pressure in interviews. But we will see.
still-prayin4rain
(498 posts)of whatever comes next.
Crunchy Frog
(27,975 posts)If they paint him as a nice boy who was a victim of evil doers, they could get away with a lighter sentence.
Just speculating. We'll see how it shakes down.
LeftInTX
(33,881 posts)still-prayin4rain
(498 posts)LeftInTX
(33,881 posts)Their goal is to find him guilty of murder.
Defense lawyers will try to squash evidence such as motive.
They have a strong case against him.
Guilty.
still-prayin4rain
(498 posts)Moostache
(10,783 posts)He meant to say - the note was IN the Epstein files, but because Joe Biden did not release the files, it is unable to be shown but trust him, it was really, really leftist and very, very bad, and Jesus.
Torchlight
(5,689 posts)Regardless of accuracy, honesty or integrity.
DBoon
(24,282 posts)LeftInTX
(33,881 posts)spanone
(140,167 posts)Patel should keep his mouth shut. This suspect hasn't even been charged yet....this is totally fucked up.
Attilatheblond
(7,256 posts)Kash seems to be pulling things outta the air, or his ass, in an attempt to look competent and appease the powerful chaps who rely on fueling the hate to make bank and hold power.
Botany
(75,301 posts)So the note was destroyed but now the FBI has been able to fix it so it can be seen again now?
Just like Obama, the Clintons, and Joe Biden owned time machines so they were able to place
a letter into Epsteins birthday book 22 years ago and to make Trump look bad.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,097 posts)One more day at the range, and Kirk's noggin' would have been obliterated (using one of Trumps favorite words).
calimary
(87,822 posts)Nothing but a recipe for trouble.
maxrandb
(16,817 posts)Solly Mack
(95,680 posts)2MuchNoise
(487 posts)Autumn
(48,357 posts)posted. there's enough garbage out there without adding to it
still-prayin4rain
(498 posts)JoseBalow
(8,392 posts)Not even remotely credible, give me a break.
rurallib
(64,131 posts)Wiz Imp
(7,085 posts)Dave Bowman
(5,816 posts)IronLionZion
(49,896 posts)Did OP add that part?
The article's headline is:
still-prayin4rain
(498 posts)commentary on Patel's direct quotes. I guess I was wrong.
IronLionZion
(49,896 posts)For example
Then put your text below that. Same with the title. Why add your own text to the title?
still-prayin4rain
(498 posts)the exact headline.
My title is meant to tie together the Utah governor saying on Saturday that the suspect had a leftist ideology, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html "Kirk Shooting Suspect Held Leftist Ideology, Utah Governor Says"
AND now, Kash Patel saying they have found a destroyed note that they ".... have confirmed what that note says, because of our aggressive interview posture at the FBI."
So, what do you think the FBI has confirmed that the destroyed note says?
Luckily, most people on the thread seem to understand the point of the post clearly, but I do apologize for any confusion on how I posted.
John1956PA
(4,457 posts). . . Patel and Cox following Trump's marching orders, but we all know that they would. The "Welp" is appropriate.
still-prayin4rain
(498 posts)EnergizedLib
(2,774 posts)If that was all that was written on the note, that tells us absolutely nothing about the suspects political leanings or motive.
dflprincess
(29,014 posts)Maybe they assume he's a "leftist" because he can write a coherent sentence using upper & lower cases correctly?
John1956PA
(4,457 posts)Bingino stated that Robinson had an "obsession" with Kirk.
Over the last few days, I have been thinking of the obsession which Mark David Chapman had with John Lennon. Chapman had Lennon sign an album cover a day or two before he shot him. Chapman, of course, was deranged. He liked Lennon"s music, but disliked a line in "Imagine" which seems to applaud atheism.
I think Robinson's obsessive attachment to all things Kirk was the foundation for his deadly act. In his twisted mind, Robinson felt that, if he could not be Charlie Kirk, then Kirk could be be Kirk either.
Janbdwl72
(225 posts)Kash Patel ranks just a few hundredths of a point below the Orange Maniac.
Upthevibe
(9,779 posts)Emile
(37,490 posts)and family members all posed for family pictures with guns.
That is about the furthest leftist ideology I have ever heard of.
Republicans need to get off their hemorrhoidal asses and take personal responsibility for their ideology.
ancianita
(41,778 posts)
barbtries
(30,763 posts)until it said what they wanted it to say.
propaganda is truly job ONE for this abject administration.
CentralMass
(16,496 posts)Mblaze
(744 posts)Where did it say it was because of "Leftist ideology"?
DallasNE
(7,871 posts)How well did that work following 9/11? We are still left with Gitmo decades later. Have we learned nothing?
LymphocyteLover
(8,734 posts)Dang, why didn't we think of that!?
AncientOfDays
(241 posts)My opinion/analysis.
Robinson was raised MAGA and around a lot of guns. But he wasn't all that political. He was Groyper, but that wasn't his motivation. Somewhere along the line, Robinson fell in love with a trans person. Charlie Kirk comes along preaching hate against trans and causing hurt to someone Robinson loved. There is the motivation.
Let's hope it does go to trial and the truth comes out - else Kirk will continue to be a martyr and the drumbeat against "the left" will continue to intensify.
bluestarone
(20,282 posts)They will believe ANYTHING they are told!! The whole bunch are INSANE!!!
Ritabert
(1,650 posts)Celerity
(51,962 posts)LeftInTX
(33,881 posts)K$H said it on Fox News, not a press conference. Usually you provide that type of info via a press conference. You just don't put case sensitive info out there in this manner because it can become "unscripted". Often they put a boring FBI analyst on, not the head. Mainly because showmanship is not good when discussing evidence. You want curated facts.
Nevertheless, there is a text message, which likely says the same thing as the torn up note.
RedArkGuy
(834 posts). . . I will not be trusting a word of what Kash Patel's or Trump's FBI says about the motivations of the shooter. From the Utah police, I'd probably give it more credibility. But Patel, Trump and Bondi are all pathological liars and shouldn't be believed concerning much of anything, unless it is against their interest what they're saying.
Iggo
(49,187 posts)Thats no way to go through life, son.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,525 posts)that this making up random shit stuff only works when the suspect is deceased?
Crunchy Frog
(27,975 posts)They're like a mashup of the Gestapo and the Keystone Cops.
tavernier
(13,933 posts)They all act like they have ingested antifreeze.
oasis
(52,883 posts)were able to decipher its message after sorting through his droppings.
spanone
(140,167 posts)John1956PA
(4,457 posts)I am guessing the FBI put the roommate under hypnosis in order to recall what the note stated.
I do not think that type of hypnosis-induced recollection would be admissible in court.
DiverDave
(5,172 posts)I call shenanigans!
(South Park reference)