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Doodley

(11,365 posts)
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 09:16 AM Monday

Grim manufacturing report from the New York State federal reserve bank.

The general business conditions index dropped twenty-one points to -8.7, its first negative reading since June. The new orders index declined thirty-five points to -19.6, and the shipments index fell thirty points to -17.3, the lowest levels for both indexes since April 2024, pointing to significant declines in orders and shipments. Unfilled orders fell. The inventories index remained modestly negative at -4.9, indicating that business inventories continued to shrink somewhat. Delivery times were unchanged. The supply availability index dropped to -8.8, a sign that supply availability continued to worsen.

https://www.newyorkfed.org/survey/empire/empiresurvey_overview

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Doodley

(11,365 posts)
2. Tariff wars, disrespect and threats to other nations, deportations, human rights abuses, gutting of overseas aid,
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 09:26 AM
Monday

the impact of healthcare cuts, stories of visitors being detained, poor international view of America, continual changes and delays in policy---it's all impacting businesses.

jmbar2

(7,304 posts)
3. Why is the market at all-time highs?
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 09:54 AM
Monday

All of the key indicators are terrible, especially for workers. Some day, it's gonna tank hard.

NCDem47

(3,013 posts)
4. I'm in the investor class for retirement
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 10:13 AM
Monday

Not a day trader, but I do check in the markets once or twice a day.

I can’t figure it out either. Up and up and up. Good for my portfolio, but not indicative of economy.

Wall Street SO badly wants to reward Trump.

Volaris

(11,042 posts)
7. My guess would be, they know trump is full of shit and as long as he IS
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 01:01 PM
Monday

were still in Bidens economic recovery.
Still, the stock market is a lagging indicator (it's the last thing to go), and when it goes this time, I think it will be bad.

edhopper

(36,642 posts)
10. Because the Market
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 01:16 PM
Monday

Is always a lagging indicator and drops like a stone when they finally realize things are shit.

Doodley

(11,365 posts)
11. Good corporate results, tech boom, anticipation of interest rate cuts, strong GDP numbers, hope that tariffs will
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 02:31 PM
Monday

not become permanent due to legal rulings, investment by MAGA investors who believe Trump's BS. It's a house of cards that will come tumbling down.

jmbar2

(7,304 posts)
14. I forgot about FOMC this week...
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 03:00 PM
Monday

doesn't make any sense to cut rates, but that's gotta be propping up the mkt.

dutch777

(4,708 posts)
6. A couple of years ago trucking companies were begging for drivers. Now they are going out of business due to lo demand.
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 10:40 AM
Monday

We have stopped buying to the degree possible. And others have decreased buying due to not being able to afford higher prices. And anyone foreign is buying from anyone other than a US business if they can help it. And US businesses are having to try and absorb some of the tariffs to not exceed buyers cost tolerances and meanwhile seeing less and less demand anyway. Not a recipe for a robust economy.

Mysterian

(5,927 posts)
9. Whomever issued this bad news must be terminated immediately
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 01:15 PM
Monday

Bad news is not acceptable in the New RepublikkkanAmerikkka!

Vinca

(52,684 posts)
13. I was at one of the local stores this morning and mentioned to the manager that the place
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 02:37 PM
Monday

wasn't nearly as full of merchandise as it usually is. He reminded me they'd just had a big sale to move a bunch of old stuff out to make way for new stuff. I said tariffs couldn't be helping much and he wholeheartedly agreed. He says he now spends a stupid amount of time with orders investigating where products come from and what the tariffs will be. I'd hate to be in the retail business right now.

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