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struggle4progress

(124,574 posts)
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 08:20 PM Sep 14

It's Never Too Soon to Blame Trans People

A timeline of false “gender ideology” claims about the Charlie Kirk shooting.

Henry Carnell
Schuyler Mitchell
Madison Pauly

September 10, 12:23 p.m.: Charlie Kirk is shot during an event at Utah Valley University after taking a question about transgender people and mass shootings ...

September 11, 8:35 a.m.: Right-wing commentator Steven Crowder posts a screenshot on X of a supposed “internal message” leaked from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives alleging that law enforcement officials found gun cartridges at the scene engraved with unspecified “wording…expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology” ...

September 11, 10:23 a.m.: The Wall Street Journal posts a link on X to a news story captioned: “Breaking: Ammunition engraved with transgender and antifascist ideology was found inside the rifle authorities believe was used in Kirk’s shooting, sources say" ...

September 11, 1:18 p.m.: The New York Times reports that the internal bulletin has not been verified by ATF analysts and does not match other summaries of the evidence ...

September 11, 3:28 p.m.: ... Megyn Kelly uses Kirk’s death as an opportunity to attack trans people ...

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/09/charlie-kirk-shooter-trans-ideology-false/

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It's Never Too Soon to Blame Trans People (Original Post) struggle4progress Sep 14 OP
Shouldn't we all be, anti fascist? questionseverything Sep 14 #1
Of course, but... returnee Monday #5
Then the right had 2 whole days of almost self-reflection Diraven Sep 14 #2
+ struggle4progress Sep 14 #3
I just posted a fact about this that I learned today. BigmanPigman Sep 14 #4

returnee

(664 posts)
5. Of course, but...
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 07:31 AM
Monday

…the media will always try to equate anti-fascist with “Antifa” with violence/terrorism, ie, anti-fascist = opposition to Repubs = murderers.

Diraven

(1,590 posts)
2. Then the right had 2 whole days of almost self-reflection
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 08:36 PM
Sep 14

But now their whole news cycle is that the shooting is somehow entirely the fault of the shooter's supposed transgender lover.

BigmanPigman

(53,803 posts)
4. I just posted a fact about this that I learned today.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 08:58 PM
Sep 14
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220642350

When I watched Meidas today they said that of the 5,200 shootings in the past 10 years only 5 were transgender. Tell that to any MAGA liar who mentions the BS.
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