Do you think that most people are fed up with tumultuous partisan politics?

[Ping Tung]

I'm talking about ordinary mostly a-political people who don't vote or just vote because they think its their duty.

Just my opinion. I think a lot of people turn on the news and think "Aww shit, not again."

Your thoughts?

[NJCher]

1. government is not supposed to be the main show

Living our lives is.

So yes, anyone who pays attention is fed up. Others live in a bubble.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. "most people" matter in a democracy

but they're not in power anymore. The agenda is being driven by someone else. I would bet Trump is not clued into some of it.

[Irish_Dem]

3. I think a big chunk of the US population loves the chaos, hatred, anger.

They get off on it.

[yardwork]

16. I agree but I hope they're not in the majority yet.

[Irish_Dem]

18. One third love it. One third hate it. One third don't give a damn either way.

[Blues Heron]

4. Most are fed up specifically with the puke brand of shitty bad faith politics. Trump especially. Don't both sides this

[marble falls]

7. "don't both side this" Exactly right on point.

[yardwork]

17. I didn't take the OP as a both sides argument.

I took it as a musing with some foreboding thrown in.

If it was meant as both sides, well, eff that. I hate both sides arguments.

[marble falls]

5. Not so much I will sit still and let the RW wash over me and my beliefs and my love of the Consitution. We ...

... had better stand up and resist tumultuously or be run over tumultuously. The RW is not playing around: they murder those on their own side that don't toe the line closely enough.

We are not at a tea party. They are playing for keeps.

[Quiet Em]

6. I spent six hours at a large gathering of people

who grew up in a local neighborhood. I didn't hear anyone bring up Charlie Kirk or anything political. I think a large percentage of people are tuning out.

[marble falls]

8. That motherless fuck: forgotten the sooner the better. He's not even worth a footnote.

[Ping Tung]

9. I agree. I think a lot of people want it to just stop with drama and do your job.

[DFW]

10. I turn on the news here and get ARD or ZDF

Sometimes, RTL.

I'm glad I don't get the steady diet handed out to most of you in the USA. I'd need anti-nausea pills on a daily basis.

[yardwork]

15. It's notably distressing here.

I was able to travel outside the U.S. twice this past year, for the first time since COVID. Both times I noticed that people in other countries were noticeably more relaxed and generally in better moods.

Both times I noticed the difference as soon as I landed in the U.S. airports. There's a sour mood in the country.

[kentuck]

11. I think the majority would follow a "unifying" candidate...

... I think the majority are sick of the divisiveness.

[Arazi]

12. Nope. Or not nearly fed up enough

Millions of people voted for this shit just a few months ago. They knew exactly what they were getting.

This is a repeat of his first term, coupled with direct and explicit vows of vengeance and retribution. This is what they wanted.

[hamsterjill]

13. I don't think most people understand and concentrate on stuff until it actually affects THEM.

Over this Charlie Kirk stuff, I've actually had TWO people who were Democrats start jumping my shit on social media for "spewing hate". All I had shared were quotes and videos of Charlie Kirk's actual comments. No commentary. Just HIS stuff.

People are afraid and want to turn away from the impending chaos. Christian Nationalists want civil war. That is their intent because that is what will benefit them. They aren't going to stop until they get it.

So, basically, those who are not interested at this point, are going to be forced to get interested at some point when something is actually taken away from them. As bad an example as this is and I hate to use it but I'm old and can't think of anything else right now - in the movie the "Patriot" Mel Gibson's character was trying to stay out of the war until his son was killed and he changed his mind.

We are not there quite yet, but we grow closer every day. In my opinion, "we" (i.e., DU'ers, Democrats, normal, rational people, etc.) are trying to keep from reaching that point. But Christian Nationalists (again) will benefit from pushing us to war so they will not stop. At some point, we will have to stop trying to prevent it, and start to try to quash it.

I mourn that time. It didn't have to be this way.

[yardwork]

14. Yes.

[NewHendoLib]

19. Most people can't get off their phone, off the TV

Or way from a horrible job and making ends meet.

I have no idea what - or if - they are thinking.

[Silent Type]

20. Think 70% or so of population is sick of our government, whoever is in control. Think it will harm us long-term.

[kimbutgar]

21. I just want to go back to not worrying what the evil dictator is doing to harm Americans

[Fiendish Thingy]

22. I think people are fed up with business-as-usual, performative centrist, pragmatic incrementalism

That does nothing to improve their lives.

I think a majority of folks would cheer on tumultuous partisan politics if it resulted in Dem majorities governing fearlessly, without hesitation, in ways that protected their rights and improved their lives.

Kind of like what Whitmer did in a single year with a single seat majority in the legislature- rammed through bill after bill protecting reproductive rights, voting rights, labor rights, raising minimum wage and much much more,

[Ping Tung]

23. I think you're right on the issues but I don't consider what's going on is "business as usual".

I think that a lot more people agree with Whhitmer than they do with Trump's endless displays of lunacy and whining. I don't think they are concerned political science or constitutional law.

As the man said, "All politics is local" and they're beginning to see that Trump's antics are now affecting their own lives.