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Dr. T

(392 posts)
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 12:17 PM Sunday

I keep hearing about how Kirk's message will live on but

not one of the journalists or interviewees will say what that message is.

If they truly do believe in the teachings of Lord and Savior Charlie, then why do they hide from those teachings? Why not shout Messiah Charlie's message for all to hear?

Gutless and spineless, that's why not. Not one word about Charlie's true and full message on ABC's This Week from earlier today. They aired a 15-minute Martha Radatz interview with three Hitler/Trump youths. They talked about Kirk's message without ever stating the message. They aired no such interview with Democratic youth and their perspective. That's not unbiased journalism, that's fascist propaganda.

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walkingman

(9,843 posts)
2. Their message is quite simple - either believe like I do or you are evil. Simplistic but reality.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 12:23 PM
Sunday

How our society reacts to this is the question. Is a multicultural society acceptable in the US?

JI7

(92,644 posts)
3. Exactly, when someone dies they will keep playing clips of them
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 12:24 PM
Sunday

but I'm not seeing it with this. But then again I'm not even watching much tv.

It seems like most discussion is on right wing using it to talk about how mean the other side is.


Buckeyeblue

(6,011 posts)
4. Of course. Because it's nothing new
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 12:28 PM
Sunday

All he did was talk. Rush Limbaugh. Hannity. Before them it was Morton Downy Jr. None of these people have lifted a hand to help people or make the world better. Talking is easy.

Silent Type

(11,139 posts)
5. Didn't see it, but if Radatz interviewed three Nazi youths, that's all the information anyone needs to brand Kirk a POS.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 12:28 PM
Sunday

Problem is, at least half the country is fine with white wingers like Kirk.

There is hardly anyone that doesn't know what Kirk believes in after days of news, a bunch just don't care or think it's improper.

It ain't the media's fault. Wish it were that simple.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,882 posts)
7. CNN frames it as "...celebrating Kirk's murder." Talking about his message is not "celebrating".
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 12:44 PM
Sunday

Actual CNN.com headline yesterday. "People are getting fired for allegedly celebrating Charlie Kirk’s murder. It looks like a coordinated effort."

Here's the link: https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/13/business/charlie-kirk-death-fired-comments

Bunch of crap. It's been framed as a celebration if anyone discusses the actual facts.

The evil powers sure did frame it early: Flags at half mast, Epstein files off the front page, silencing of a conservative guy calling for the release of the Epstein files, a sudden ignoring of C. Kirk message, replaced with loud/aggressive outrage.

And as a bonus, the firing of anyone "celebrating" Charlie Kirk's murder, by discussing his message.

Silent Type

(11,139 posts)
9. Read that totally differently. Sounds like CNN is criticizing the coordinated effort to fire journalist.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 01:50 PM
Sunday

"People are getting fired for allegedly celebrating Charlie Kirk’s murder. It looks like a coordinated effort."

underpants

(193,000 posts)
8. Vague and empty on purpose. They are selling his aura
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 12:52 PM
Sunday

He’s got such a nasty horrible past they want to establish him as righteous so as people learn his past they dismiss it as either just being negative or that he reformed.

I didn’t pay much attention to him but I’d say I’ve noticed that he’d taken a more faith based or spiritual turn since Trump’s back in office. I think he was planning on running for office. He brings his followers with him and he was adding the evangelicals.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,790 posts)
11. He realized that cosplaying a member of the God Squad is a lucrative grift.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 02:56 PM
Sunday

It went hand-in-hand with his sexist, anti-LGTBQ white supremacist propaganda.

tonekat

(2,349 posts)
13. I'm disgusted with the NYT
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 03:02 PM
Sunday

Putting his name and lifespan in the upper part of the online version of the paper. As if an beloved politician died.

sop

(16,042 posts)
14. Kirk's public utterances will be remembered only if Trump succeeds in destroying our democracy and the U.S.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 03:12 PM
Sunday

becomes a racist, homophobic, misogynistic, nativist, ultra-rightwing christian theocracy.

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