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senseandsensibility

(23,920 posts)
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:12 PM Sep 13

So this is the state of our corporate media today

If you mildly criticize Charlie Kirk's speech you are immediately fired by the only "liberal" network on TV.

If you say that homeless people should be involuntarily euthanized, no one at the most watched "conservative" network objects. Not even the other talking heads on the panel with you. It's all good.

This is where we are in 2025 and I only see it getting worse, unfortunately. If anything, journalists seem to be learning the wrong lessons from this administration.

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So this is the state of our corporate media today (Original Post) senseandsensibility Sep 13 OP
I would call it "Murdered by the State, even if committing no crime, let alone a Capital offense" AZJonnie Sep 13 #1
Yup senseandsensibility Sep 13 #2
"Involuntary lethal injections" Prof. Toru Tanaka Sep 13 #5
That $4 trillion tax cut for the rich would probably be doc03 Sep 13 #3
Good point. senseandsensibility Sep 13 #4
I'm sinking deeper and deeper into severe depression. BigmanPigman Sep 13 #6
This is a low point for me too senseandsensibility Sep 13 #8
At the risk of invoking Rush Limbaugh, ditto. mjvpi Sep 13 #9
I directly name that asshole in my rants BigmanPigman Sep 13 #11
For some strange reason Quanta Sep 13 #12
I think James Carville was correct BigmanPigman Sep 13 #13
One of the few times I've agreed with Carville lately. Shipwack Sep 13 #14
There is no liberal network SocialDemocrat61 Sep 13 #7
After how MSM is handling the Kirk shooting KS Toronado Sep 13 #10
Unfortunately the American MSM is becoming less and less unbiased and given to balanced reporting. Aussie105 Sep 13 #15
Time to turn that fucking shit off. Permanently. Blue Owl Sep 14 #16
One point. Most of them aren't journalists. They are media personalities... progressoid Sep 14 #17
corporate media... myohmy2 Sep 14 #18
Agree with all your points senseandsensibility Sep 14 #19

AZJonnie

(1,599 posts)
1. I would call it "Murdered by the State, even if committing no crime, let alone a Capital offense"
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:23 PM
Sep 13

Euthanasia, at least in the common parlance, implies an act of compassion. KILLmeade meant it in no such way, obviously

Other than that, 100% THIS!!!

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,794 posts)
5. "Involuntary lethal injections"
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:58 PM
Sep 13

And Charlie Kirk advocated for televised public executions. These people aren’t just fascist, they are full-on Nazi goons!

senseandsensibility

(23,920 posts)
4. Good point.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:04 PM
Sep 13

The sheer cruelty of this "comment" by Kilmeade is going to get some blowback I think. Not enough, but I think they're going to have to address it somehow.

BigmanPigman

(53,812 posts)
6. I'm sinking deeper and deeper into severe depression.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:59 PM
Sep 13

I have a feeling I'm not alone. The main focus is that realistically we will have to endure this for over 3 more years, at least. I'm a realist and it sucks a lot.

senseandsensibility

(23,920 posts)
8. This is a low point for me too
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 08:07 PM
Sep 13

I find the failure of journalism to be especially depressing. Just when the Dem leadership seemed to be finding its footing, journalists seem to be going the extra mile to act as surrogates for maga. Even on MSNBC.

mjvpi

(1,777 posts)
9. At the risk of invoking Rush Limbaugh, ditto.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 08:23 PM
Sep 13

The mental heath system stands as another tribute to Ronald Reagan. Seeing the smug fucker on Fox and Friends took it out of me. Every day is s new low.

BigmanPigman

(53,812 posts)
11. I directly name that asshole in my rants
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 08:29 PM
Sep 13

Everything goes back to that vile piece of shit!!! We have Fux "news" due to him, on top of 1,000 other shit stains we have to live through 45 years later.

When he was shot I was in art school in NYC and all the other students on my floor were glad. It was 100% different than when John Lennon was shot. We were only 18 but we knew Raygun was a motherfucker.

Quanta

(242 posts)
12. For some strange reason
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 08:33 PM
Sep 13

I get the feeling this isn't going to last the full term. Not to get all "woo" but something tells me he is gonna be out in one way or another before too terribly long. Unfortunately, it's also telling me that as a nation, we may have to rebuild in a radical new way to survive. Or, fortunately, depending on how you look at it. Still gonna get worse before it gets better though, and that part sucks for sure.

BigmanPigman

(53,812 posts)
13. I think James Carville was correct
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 08:41 PM
Sep 13

a few weeks ago when he commented on tRump's bruises, health decline, etc and he said that when the fucking moron finally accepts the fact that he will not live much longer or be able to hide himself from public view AND his poll numbers tank even more with the incredible inflation effecting his base he will destroy the US. He is an egomaniac and a baby. If he is going down he WILL want to get even and take the US with him.

He is the most VENGEFUL monster ever created and I definitely see him doing this.

Shipwack

(2,858 posts)
14. One of the few times I've agreed with Carville lately.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 08:54 PM
Sep 13

My solace is that while he is surrounded by yes-people and sycophants, they want to keep on living, and will quietly ignore sector drop nukes or something equally disastrous.

Data point: the Army Corps of Engineers didn’t completely obey his order to completely open up that reservoir valve as ordered. That would have caused massive flooding downriver, destroying homes and killing people.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,689 posts)
7. There is no liberal network
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 08:01 PM
Sep 13

If there was they would have a different morning show and would not have fired Joy Reid.

KS Toronado

(21,317 posts)
10. After how MSM is handling the Kirk shooting
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 08:25 PM
Sep 13

How are they going to treat us running up to the next election? Beginning to think the only way
we can get any favorable coverage at all is large rallies protesting things like the Epstein files.
Go picket FQX noise headquarters for all their lies, etc. and make sure the other networks
get there to interview us.

MSM needs to be dealt with before it's too late.

Aussie105

(7,232 posts)
15. Unfortunately the American MSM is becoming less and less unbiased and given to balanced reporting.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 08:56 PM
Sep 13

Some of Russia's media are prone to this, just a mouthpiece for government propaganda.

Kirk's murder is just a blip on the radar of deaths by shooting in America, but if an outlet devotes the first 20 minutes of its evening news to it, while putting school shootings at the back of the news, you know what executive, top level biases at the media outlet are at play.

Non critical treatment of Kirk's philosophy now and in the past tells its own story too.
That very much comes from the top as well.

It is a slow decent into irrational insanity, made popular by Trump and his followers.

There are still unbiassed media, but those are overseas, like the UK BBC.



myohmy2

(3,677 posts)
18. corporate media...
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 02:08 AM
Sep 14

...doesn't represent our values, views or interests and we'll never benefit from the money we give them...

...I think we need to find a way to fund our political Party, media and security independent of corporate involvement...

...centralized wealth has become one of our main problems...it controls everything it touches in a way that is detrimental to our collective interests, security and wellbeing...

...

senseandsensibility

(23,920 posts)
19. Agree with all your points
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 02:21 PM
Sep 14

but a free press is just as important as a fair judicial system in maintaining our democracy. So yes, we can boycott the corporate media and support independent media. I'm all for that. But if the majority of voters get their info from the corporate media and we just stay in our separate media spaces without engaging in their propaganda efforts we will soon see ALL major channels and newspapers resemble FAUX news (or worse). I believe that the small amount of pushback mainstream corporate outlets receive from the left is all that keeps them from that. And in order to push back, we have to know what they're saying.

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