Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DFW

(58,942 posts)
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 04:33 PM Sep 13

After reading a long article about Kirk in the Boston Globe

I have come to the conclusion that Kirk and his followers were the kind of people who think the film "The Stepford Wives" had a happy ending.

44 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
After reading a long article about Kirk in the Boston Globe (Original Post) DFW Sep 13 OP
His wife is feeling her freedom The Blue Flower Sep 13 #1
Considering the male preppies interviewed and potrayed in the Globe article DFW Sep 13 #5
She didn't even let his body get cold liberal N proud Sep 13 #29
I had the same thought. Silver Gaia Sunday #41
Her speech looked like a call chelsea0011 Sep 13 #9
She sounds like she's delirious with grief. Crunchy Frog Sep 13 #23
She has to continue the gravy train malaise Sep 13 #15
Yes, she's pissed because she had already TexasBushwhacker Sep 13 #19
I'm betting that Ron Desantis's wife felt the same way..and then it was gone in a flash Bengus81 Sunday #36
Sheeeit, this is grifting's holy grail. Queso Delicioso Sep 13 #26
She has had an independent career from Kirk including working in real estate. valleyrogue Sep 13 #21
That "Masters" is a bogus program that takes a couple of months. I'm imagining the doctorate is the same. Scrivener7 Sep 13 #34
the google tells us: CharleyDog Sunday #39
Changed her maiden name to obscure her heritage IbogaProject Sunday #37
Maybe "trans identity" CharleyDog Sunday #40
No doubt about that. I could tell immediately she has an agenda and intends to be "big" in this arena. Another one,yikes SheilaAnn Sep 13 #33
Or may be overheard saying... kerouac2 Sep 13 #2
he'd taken his internet baiting and trolling performance on the road bigtree Sep 13 #3
or the Salem Witch Trials... hlthe2b Sep 13 #4
Although..... DFW Sep 13 #6
Women were hanged as a result of the trials. yardwork Sep 13 #8
Yeah, I remember seeing that in a movie, Butterflylady Sep 13 #14
Really gruesome. It took him a long time to die. yardwork Sep 13 #18
That was probably the whole point. calimary Sep 13 #22
maga? BidenRocks Sep 13 #30
Giles Corey. soldierant Sunday #43
I'm not sure they're worse. yardwork Sunday #44
Could you provide a link or at least a title so we can find article to read? cally Sep 13 #7
There are five currently on CK in the BG... littlemissmartypants Sep 13 #10
I have a subscription, so I hope you can click on this and get there DFW Sep 13 #12
For Educational use IbogaProject Sunday #38
I gather you mean the original "Stepford Wives" not the remake? dflprincess Sep 13 #11
I have been living in Europe too long. They made a remake? DFW Sep 13 #13
The remake was done in 2004 dflprincess Sep 13 #16
Well, whaddya know. I had no idea. DFW Sep 13 #17
I think Paula Prentiss was in the original dflprincess Sep 13 #20
Tina Louise who played Ginger on Gilligan's Island. Crunchy Frog Sep 13 #25
Was she Katherine Ross' best friend? DFW Sep 13 #27
Richard Benjamin married Paula Prentiss in 1961 BidenRocks Sep 13 #32
I watched it and it is silly. BigmanPigman Sep 13 #24
So many remakes are. I don't even know why anyone bothered to remake this film DFW Sep 13 #28
What timing...it is on again right now! BigmanPigman Sunday #35
I've been in the US all along barbtries Sunday #42
As far as her deep thoughts, I personally am reminded of William Shakespeare's... chouchou Sep 13 #31

The Blue Flower

(6,169 posts)
1. His wife is feeling her freedom
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 04:37 PM
Sep 13

She's stepping out of his shadow in a big way. Making sure the camera is on her for a change. Emoting for all the world to see. I won't be surprised if she takes over his organization very soon and very publicly.

DFW

(58,942 posts)
5. Considering the male preppies interviewed and potrayed in the Globe article
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 04:49 PM
Sep 13

The absolute LAST thing they're going to do is follow some woman who seeks to take over the leadership of the organization their macho messiah founded. Of course, if she truly follows in her beloved Charlie's footsteps, all she is doing is being a placeholder until the next macho leader steps up, at which point she will step aside and melt back into the background where she belongs. For her to do anything else would alienate a lot of the boys who swallowed his macho line up to now. That might set up an entertaining power struggle.

Ave Carolus, morituri te saludant!

TexasBushwhacker

(21,006 posts)
19. Yes, she's pissed because she had already
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:38 PM
Sep 13

picked out her suit to wear when he would be inaugurated as Vance's VP. She reminds me of Anne Romney. Mitt wanted to be POTUS, but Anne EXPECTED to be FLOTUS.

Queso Delicioso

(92 posts)
26. Sheeeit, this is grifting's holy grail.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:54 PM
Sep 13

She's set up for life, courtesy of the rubes and a single bullet. Nice work if you can get it.

valleyrogue

(2,318 posts)
21. She has had an independent career from Kirk including working in real estate.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:43 PM
Sep 13

She is hardly a SAHM. I would bet she could clearly handle Turning Point USA.

Also unlike her late husband, she actually completed college. That would somewhat undermine some of what Charlie preached.

From Wikipedia:

Kirk attended Notre Dame Preparatory High School in Scottsdale,[8] and later Arizona State University, where she studied political science and international relations.[1][9] At Notre Dame, she played basketball and volleyball, earning the Matt Arnold Sportsmanship and Teammate Awards.[8] She later played basketball on the women's team of Regis University in Denver, Colorado, for two years.[6]

She participated in the Miss Arizona USA 2012 pageant, which she won on her 23rd birthday, and then represented Arizona in Miss USA 2012,[6] but failed to place.

In 2017, she attended Liberty University, where she obtained a Juris Master degree and a doctorate in Christian leadership.[10][11]



For the record, she graduated from Arizona State University, not just "attended" it.

She was five years older than Charlie, clearly well past the "wall" of 25 that her husband thought women should be married.

She was out of his league.

Scrivener7

(57,184 posts)
34. That "Masters" is a bogus program that takes a couple of months. I'm imagining the doctorate is the same.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 08:03 PM
Sep 13

CharleyDog

(805 posts)
39. the google tells us:
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 01:25 PM
Sunday

Juris Master is a 30-credit-hour master's in legal studies that can be completed on a part-time basis.

IbogaProject

(4,989 posts)
37. Changed her maiden name to obscure her heritage
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 01:08 PM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Sep 14, 2025, 02:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Her grandparents may have come over with the wave of "good Germans" mixed w open lower level Nazi in early 1953 to rebuild the GOP. But someone pointed out the dropped name was Sweedish, and I'm giving up trying to sort that out. The GOP is full of a million or more Nazi-American decendents. She is now advicating hate and protoviolence so I only expect trouble from her. I hope the kids turn progressive and refute all this but only after they are adults.

CharleyDog

(805 posts)
40. Maybe "trans identity"
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 01:27 PM
Sunday

I was daydreaming it would be fitting if they identified as "trans identity" in their adolescence/early adulthood.

SheilaAnn

(10,544 posts)
33. No doubt about that. I could tell immediately she has an agenda and intends to be "big" in this arena. Another one,yikes
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:54 PM
Sep 13

kerouac2

(1,285 posts)
2. Or may be overheard saying...
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 04:44 PM
Sep 13

If I was in charge of the Republic of Gilead, I would do things way better... For one thing, the commanders are way too soft.




bigtree

(92,561 posts)
3. he'd taken his internet baiting and trolling performance on the road
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 04:46 PM
Sep 13

...with a ready audience gaslighted into giving him room to spout his divisive and ridiculously prevaricating rhetoric.

DFW

(58,942 posts)
6. Although.....
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 04:52 PM
Sep 13

Contrary to popular portrayal, no woman was burned at or after the Salem Witch trials. Kirk might not have seen that as a sufficiently strong response.

Butterflylady

(4,539 posts)
14. Yeah, I remember seeing that in a movie,
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:05 PM
Sep 13

About the trials. They put large rocks on him till he died.

calimary

(87,844 posts)
22. That was probably the whole point.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:43 PM
Sep 13

The longer it takes, the longer the suffering.

Fucking sadists!!!

soldierant

(8,946 posts)
43. Giles Corey.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 05:07 PM
Sunday

He was pressed to death because he would not plead. They could not "try" him if he would not plead, and therefore they could not confiscate his possessions. He did that so that his family would be abe to keep everything and would not starve. I would call that a hero's death. Think what you like about the witch hunters, but they did have enough respect for the law to make that work. Today's witch hunters are far worse.

yardwork

(68,060 posts)
44. I'm not sure they're worse.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 05:17 PM
Sunday

The Puritans were really bad. I think it's just come full circle. That particularly American to stealing from the poor and one's neighbors and cloaking it in Christianity.

littlemissmartypants

(29,821 posts)
10. There are five currently on CK in the BG...
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 05:19 PM
Sep 13

You can do a web search like I did and decide which one looks most interesting to you. I'm done reading about him.

dflprincess

(29,026 posts)
11. I gather you mean the original "Stepford Wives" not the remake?
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 05:49 PM
Sep 13

Charlie and his pals would hate the remake's ending. (Though they'd probably walk out of the movie when they realized it included a Gay couple.)

DFW

(58,942 posts)
13. I have been living in Europe too long. They made a remake?
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 05:56 PM
Sep 13

I only know the one with Katherine Ross. I guess that's the original, since I know of no other version.

dflprincess

(29,026 posts)
16. The remake was done in 2004
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:19 PM
Sep 13

Had quite the cast, Nicole Kidman, Bette Midler, Glenn Close, Matthew Broderick, to name a few.

DFW

(58,942 posts)
17. Well, whaddya know. I had no idea.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:33 PM
Sep 13

I had been spending most of my time here before then, so it's no wonder I only knew of the original. I only remember that Katherine Ross was in it, but I'm sure there wer some other well-known actors of the time.

dflprincess

(29,026 posts)
20. I think Paula Prentiss was in the original
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:41 PM
Sep 13

But that's the only other name I remember. Been a long time since I saw it.

DFW

(58,942 posts)
27. Was she Katherine Ross' best friend?
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:57 PM
Sep 13

The last but one to be "remade, who Katherine Ross stabbed to find out she was a robot? I remember she was dark-haired, like Paula Prentiss, but that is about all I remember.

BidenRocks

(2,215 posts)
32. Richard Benjamin married Paula Prentiss in 1961
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:46 PM
Sep 13

They did a TV show, He and She 1967 - 1968. I remember watching that.
He turned to directing and she continued acting.

They are still together.

BigmanPigman

(53,797 posts)
24. I watched it and it is silly.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:49 PM
Sep 13

Here is a preview...you decide. It's on TV a lot as well. Two thumbs down from me.

?si=13DyNPmE3OyJsAcF

DFW

(58,942 posts)
28. So many remakes are. I don't even know why anyone bothered to remake this film
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:59 PM
Sep 13

Although, I have seen the remake of "The Italian Job" and thought the remake with Mark Wahlberg better than the original with Michael Caine.

BigmanPigman

(53,797 posts)
35. What timing...it is on again right now!
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 12:32 AM
Sunday

I was channel surfing and there it was on MGM+. Of course I had to think of your earlier post. I am NOT watching it!

chouchou

(2,359 posts)
31. As far as her deep thoughts, I personally am reminded of William Shakespeare's...
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:38 PM
Sep 13

...Much Ado About Nothing,

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»After reading a long arti...