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Charlie Kirk is the first school shooting Republicans ever cared about. (Original Post) CousinIT Saturday OP
This seems like a losing argument magasnightmare Saturday #1
No idea how you're connecting these together. Reading something that isn't there? CousinIT Saturday #2
yes...Kirk said victims of mass shootings are worth the price of maintaining the 2nd Amendment agingdem Saturday #4
Thing is that none of the Democratic gun control proposals which I am aware of, Jack Valentino Saturday #7
LOL Mysterian Saturday #5
An actual real time fatal assassination all over the media YorkRd Saturday #3
K&R UTUSN Saturday #6
NO GUNS AT SCHOOL FOLKS!! Nimble_Idea Saturday #8

magasnightmare

(11 posts)
1. This seems like a losing argument
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 05:00 PM
Saturday

I keep seeing this or a similar argument from our side that Kirk supported the 2nd amendment. I mean, the shooter used a standard bolt action hunting rifle. What is our argument here, that we should have a total gun ban, including hunting rifles? This is a losing argument with the voters.

CousinIT

(11,858 posts)
2. No idea how you're connecting these together. Reading something that isn't there?
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 05:09 PM
Saturday

It says Charlie Kirk was the first school shooting Republicans cared about. That is a bad thing. Period. Did some anagram produce "gun ban" out of that?

Not a damn thing in there about a total gun ban. But I do know that Dems support universal background checks and stricter gun laws. I have never heard one mention a ban.

agingdem

(8,637 posts)
4. yes...Kirk said victims of mass shootings are worth the price of maintaining the 2nd Amendment
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:43 PM
Saturday

and Kirk's vile followers nodded in agreement like demented bobbleheads...but when Kirk, a MAGA charlatan, a spewer of vomitus racial/ethnic/LGBTQ hatred, fell victim to gun violence, his true believers are somehow incapable of applying Charlie Kirk's words to his karmic demise...victims of gun violence are worth the price of maintaining the 2nd Amendment...



Jack Valentino

(3,247 posts)
7. Thing is that none of the Democratic gun control proposals which I am aware of,
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 11:32 PM
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would have been likely to have prevented this particular shooting,
which was accomplished with an older bolt-action rifle, rather than a semi-automatic of any type...

ironically a much more suitable weapon for a long-range targeted killing,
than any semi-automatic weapon such as the AR-15 knockoffs-- which are more suitable for just spraying bullets
faster with less power and accuracy than an old-fashioned bolt-action rifle, i.e. more suitable for a MASS shooting
with no particular individual target...

So unless Democrats wanted to propose a complete confiscation program of all rifles,
which they don't and I certainly don't, none of our gun-control proposals
are likely to have prevented this particular murder---

and Kirk's opposition to gun control likely had no effect upon his own murder---
BUT it has likely helped to stop the prevention of MASS murders committed
by owners of semi-automatic assault weapons which Democrats had previously banned
during the Clinton administration, but that ban expired.






YorkRd

(419 posts)
3. An actual real time fatal assassination all over the media
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 05:20 PM
Saturday

So far from Jesus but so close to Donald Trump. What an opportunity

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