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Tanuki

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Damage is done Pisces Thursday #1
yeah BlueWaveNeverEnd Friday #18
As intended. yardwork Friday #30
Jfc SheltieLover Thursday #2
So Canada has committed an act of war, now? bluedigger Thursday #3
Transgender symbols are law enforcement's new "touched fentanyl and fell over dead" hysteria. RockRaven Thursday #4
It's LE's new "satanic symbols." yardwork Friday #31
Unbelievable (i.e., unbelievable in any world outside the 47 regime. For the regime, sounds like pretty much on par ). pat_k Thursday #5
TY for this valuable Information... Cha Thursday #6
Some cops and FBI rzemanfl Thursday #7
JFC orangecrush Thursday #8
Oh, they knew exactly what they were doing. Spreading hate and lies are their core competencies. still-prayin4rain Thursday #9
Unfucking believable. Baitball Blogger Thursday #10
The bulletin came out of the ATF, but yeas, FBI was complicit in not shutting it down Prairie Gates Friday #25
Throw away all your transgender ammo. Qutzupalotl Thursday #11
Kick dalton99a Thursday #12
Who knew there was an munitions company that supports transgender idiology? PurgedVoter Thursday #13
If you own guns, you are in danger of catching "the gay" Bluetus Friday #20
Hey magats, better keep your powder dry in those woke bullets! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Thursday #14
I am reminded of an incident about symbol ignorance that happened MANY years niyad Thursday #15
Remember when Proctor and Gamble kept getting accused Tanuki Friday #21
Yes, I do. My favourite part of that hysterical nonsense was where niyad Friday #23
That was a scam by Amway members to damage their competitor muriel_volestrangler Friday #29
Yes, it was Amway. yardwork Friday #32
Beat me to it! obamanut2012 Friday #44
They damn near shut down Boston when a street artist who tiles space invaders on surfaces Prairie Gates Friday #26
What a bunch of incompetent fucking clowns! Jim__ Friday #16
It sounds like amateur hour at the FBI because it totally is IronLionZion Friday #17
Wait, you mean they didn't really have George Soros's signature on them? NBachers Friday #19
Who needs Russian disinformation bots when we have the Trump administration? SunSeeker Friday #22
This one seems like a motivated "mistake" Prairie Gates Friday #24
I was struggling with that, myself. yardwork Friday #33
The only thing I can think of is the three arrows down symbol Prairie Gates Friday #36
ATF is a DOGE target. Lot of ATF fired, reassigned. yellowcanine Friday #27
Is there any source other than this tweet? sl8 Friday #28
I think you're missing the point. yardwork Friday #34
No, I just don't believe unsubstantiated reports from either side. sl8 Friday #35
"Either side" is right wing talk. yardwork Friday #37
OK. I don't believe "either claim", without substantiation. nt sl8 Friday #39
That's reasonable. yardwork Friday #40
they see symbols of their hatred everywhere they look bigtree Friday #38
Projection is a trait of personality disorders. yardwork Friday #41
Has WSJ issued a retraction? Mysterian Friday #42
The press conference (live now) is describing inscribed cartridges confoosed Friday #43

Pisces

(6,090 posts)
1. Damage is done
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:08 PM
Thursday

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(11,190 posts)
18. yeah
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:09 AM
Friday

yardwork

(68,015 posts)
30. As intended.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:09 AM
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SheltieLover

(73,614 posts)
2. Jfc
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:08 PM
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Magat morans.

bluedigger

(17,319 posts)
3. So Canada has committed an act of war, now?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:09 PM
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Those fools. Don't they know we are already staging in Chicago and Boston? It's all about the poutine.

RockRaven

(17,987 posts)
4. Transgender symbols are law enforcement's new "touched fentanyl and fell over dead" hysteria.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:10 PM
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They are ignorant and bigoted and see their new bogeyman everywhere, and run with it at the drop of a hat.

Reminder: ACAB means feds, civilian investigators, prosecutors, everyone in the process, not just pedantically municipal police officers.

yardwork

(68,015 posts)
31. It's LE's new "satanic symbols."
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:10 AM
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pat_k

(11,738 posts)
5. Unbelievable (i.e., unbelievable in any world outside the 47 regime. For the regime, sounds like pretty much on par ).
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:10 PM
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Unfortunately, in the 47 regime, whoever pulled the bullshit out of their ass and put it in a report will undoubtedly be promoted.

Cha

(314,297 posts)
6. TY for this valuable Information...
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:11 PM
Thursday

rzemanfl

(30,793 posts)
7. Some cops and FBI
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:12 PM
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folks had to have turned a blind eye to this stupidity.

orangecrush

(26,689 posts)
8. JFC
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:30 PM
Thursday

still-prayin4rain

(488 posts)
9. Oh, they knew exactly what they were doing. Spreading hate and lies are their core competencies.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:36 PM
Thursday

Baitball Blogger

(50,891 posts)
10. Unfucking believable.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:37 PM
Thursday

This level of ignorance and unprofessionalism in the FBI is just cringe.

Prairie Gates

(6,254 posts)
25. The bulletin came out of the ATF, but yeas, FBI was complicit in not shutting it down
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:33 AM
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CNN should also have known better. I expect this level of nonsense from the WSJ, but we still have to accept them as a source. The various posters who were spreading this (rather gleefully) yesterday should apologize to the board.

Qutzupalotl

(15,493 posts)
11. Throw away all your transgender ammo.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 10:39 PM
Thursday

dalton99a

(90,178 posts)
12. Kick
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:01 PM
Thursday

PurgedVoter

(2,603 posts)
13. Who knew there was an munitions company that supports transgender idiology?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:12 PM
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A company so immersed in transgender ideology that their maker marks are like a manifesto. Oh no, now that it is out, the maga are gonna want to boycott them.

Bluetus

(1,533 posts)
20. If you own guns, you are in danger of catching "the gay"
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:00 AM
Friday

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,093 posts)
14. Hey magats, better keep your powder dry in those woke bullets!
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:37 PM
Thursday

niyad

(127,177 posts)
15. I am reminded of an incident about symbol ignorance that happened MANY years
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:57 PM
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ago, back in the last millenium. I was wearing an ankh, and this young man came up to me, all outraged, demanding that I get rid of the "satanic" symbol. I pointed out that it was an Egyptian symbol for eternal life, and had been in existence far longer than the christian satan. He said, "I know it's satanic, I learned it on tv!" Being me, I looked at him, and laughed, and said, "Pee Wee Herman (TOLD you it was a long time ago!!!) is also on tv. Do you believe he is real?" As he slunk off, he sneeered, "Sorry I upset you." I replied, "Oh honey, you are far too stupid and gullible to upset me." Poor, confused little idiot.

Tanuki

(16,057 posts)
21. Remember when Proctor and Gamble kept getting accused
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:16 AM
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of worshipping Satan because of a benign, old-timey logo of a man-in-the-moon and stars, which they had been using for decades before anyone freaked out over it?

niyad

(127,177 posts)
23. Yes, I do. My favourite part of that hysterical nonsense was where
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:21 AM
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the ceo supposedly went on Phil Donahue's afternoon talk show and announced that he worshiped Satan, and that all P & G profits supported Satanic efforts. Such an episode did not exist, of course.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,684 posts)
29. That was a scam by Amway members to damage their competitor
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:06 AM
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P&G wins US case on Satanic slurs

The Devil is not in league with global consumer brand Procter & Gamble, a US court has ruled.
P&G won a $19m (£9.7m) lawsuit against four distributors of rival Amway over rumours tying it to Satanism.

The court concluded a 12-year lawsuit in P&G's favour, after it ruled that the four had spread a false accusation that P&G subsidised Satanic cults.

The case is one of several unfair competition suits P&G has brought refuting the Satanism slurs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6471373.stm

If something looks unbelievably stupid, then there's probably something more to it, and profit is most likely.

yardwork

(68,015 posts)
32. Yes, it was Amway.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:12 AM
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And P&G dropped the moon and stars logo, which I thought was kind of sad.

obamanut2012

(28,802 posts)
44. Beat me to it!
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:17 AM
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Prairie Gates

(6,254 posts)
26. They damn near shut down Boston when a street artist who tiles space invaders on surfaces
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:35 AM
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had a space invader tile mistaken for a terrorist symbol (for some reason). Both the police and the journalists who spout their nonsense need to be better trained and we need a closer selection process because many of them seem to be idiots.

Jim__

(14,918 posts)
16. What a bunch of incompetent fucking clowns!
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:08 AM
Friday

IronLionZion

(49,887 posts)
17. It sounds like amateur hour at the FBI because it totally is
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:09 AM
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they fired anyone who was qualified because they failed some idiotic "loyalty test" or they were too DEI or whatever.

NBachers

(18,884 posts)
19. Wait, you mean they didn't really have George Soros's signature on them?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:54 AM
Friday

SunSeeker

(56,638 posts)
22. Who needs Russian disinformation bots when we have the Trump administration?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:00 AM
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Prairie Gates

(6,254 posts)
24. This one seems like a motivated "mistake"
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:31 AM
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They wanted to get their ideological story out there, and they did.

It satisfied their frothing masses, including some trolls close to home (ahem), but was always likely to be bullshit, and sounded trolly and implausible. How does one engrave antifascist ideology on a bullet? The whole thing was ludicrous.

yardwork

(68,015 posts)
33. I was struggling with that, myself.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:15 AM
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It's not at all clear to me what symbol or few words could possibly convey such a message.

Prairie Gates

(6,254 posts)
36. The only thing I can think of is the three arrows down symbol
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:09 AM
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But honestly, the whole thing is goofy.

yellowcanine

(36,616 posts)
27. ATF is a DOGE target. Lot of ATF fired, reassigned.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:35 AM
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The “transgender markings”. Nonsense likely came from some political stooge. Kind of like “MS-13 tattoos.”

sl8

(16,827 posts)
28. Is there any source other than this tweet?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:41 AM
Friday

Is this just this particular poster's hypothesis, or is there more? The images he included, other than the top left one, come from sources unrelated to the shooting. Apparently he's just using them as examples of different headstamps.

I believe this is where the photo in the lower right came from(ca. 2023):
https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/headstamp-inquiry-on-30-06-cartridge/53509

The bits about about the Canadian & UK headstamps are on the Wikipedia page on military headstamps:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_headstamps

yardwork

(68,015 posts)
34. I think you're missing the point.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:19 AM
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There's no evidence whatsoever that bullet casings supposedly found at the scene have "pro-trans and anti-fascist" words on them. Nobody in authority has released any photos or any evidence for this whatsoever.

Despite the lack evidence, the news media ran with this story.

Somebody on the internet is pointing out that bullets have manufacturers symbols. Maybe that's the source of the story. Or maybe it's all just a made up lie.

What would a "pro transgender and anti-fascist ideology" symbol look like to you? I am at a loss. I don't think there's any such thing.

sl8

(16,827 posts)
35. No, I just don't believe unsubstantiated reports from either side.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 08:31 AM
Friday

I don't believe unsubstantiated reports that there *were* transgender symbols found on the cases and I don't believe unsubstantiated reports about how those reports got started.

Maybe this twitter poster is just posting a hypothesis. That's fine, I've heard worse. Could even be true. But from the tone, it sounds like they're stating a fact and many of the thread replies seem to accept it as fact.

As far as what those hypothetical transgender symbols look like "to me", I have no fucking clue. If you've gotten the impression that I believe those initial reports, then you are mistaken.

On edit:
As far as the sources I provided in my post, I added those later, after reading some replies that seemed to think that they were from this case, rather than unrelated examples found on the internet.

yardwork

(68,015 posts)
37. "Either side" is right wing talk.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:12 AM
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There is no "either side" here.

sl8

(16,827 posts)
39. OK. I don't believe "either claim", without substantiation. nt
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:27 AM
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yardwork

(68,015 posts)
40. That's reasonable.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:42 AM
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bigtree

(92,503 posts)
38. they see symbols of their hatred everywhere they look
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:13 AM
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yardwork

(68,015 posts)
41. Projection is a trait of personality disorders.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:43 AM
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We see a lot of it with Trump and his followers.

Mysterian

(5,920 posts)
42. Has WSJ issued a retraction?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:55 AM
Friday

I knew the filthy fucking assholes were lying.

confoosed

(61 posts)
43. The press conference (live now) is describing inscribed cartridges
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:09 AM
Friday
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