Enough already

[democrank]

The killing of Charlie Kirk yesterday was horrible. I’m sorry it happened and I hope his killer is apprehended and brought to justice

But…. something about the coverage of this story bothers me. Trump ordered the flag at half staff. Apparently Kirk’s body is being flown home on Air Force 2. The story is being covered 24/7. Major politicians who have refused comments on other important events can’t get to a microphone fast enough.

Hundreds and hundreds of people have been killed with a gun over the last few years. Many of them were children. I don’t remember a single one of them going home on Air Force 2. Or in a VP motorcade. What exactly are we doing right now?

I’m still thinking of all the other gun violence victims, and all the sweet children at Sandy Hook….children who didn’t spread hate. Children who didn’t get the hero treatment from certain politicians.

[walkingman]

1. I am already tired of listening to it. I really do not think he is all that.....

[SergeStorms]

47. Murder porn.

The right-wing animals love it, but that doesn't mean we all want to relive that moment ad nauseum.

[RockRaven]

3. George Carlin: "It's a big club and you ain't in it"

There is a group in American society one might call, for lack of a better term, the political class. The political class is all of the politicians, lobbyists, fundraisers, campaigners, journalists, pundits, media executives, etc who make their living off of politics whether they are in power or not, and those who fund the same. They form an in-group. Everyone else is in the out-group.

Even ideological opposites within the in-group will be treated with more affinity than those in the out-group. As we are seeing.

[Hornedfrog2000]

12. Which is why

Democrats didnt prosecute their buddies when we had the chance. Theyre all part of the same club.

[OldBaldy1701E]

45. Salute! (n/t)

[betsuni]

51. This is a forum for supporters of the Democratic Party. Bye-bye.

[Irish_Dem]

4. The billionaires and the Putin/Trump Crime Syndicate are doing a little dog and pony show

for the masses. To entertain us and to drive home that they are the money and power elite.
And we are not.

[Justice matters.]

25. They also want to make most "normal" people to stop paying attention.

Well, not the profiteers in the poitical-media businesses, but the power-drunk people (Republicans in the majority for now and since 10 years).

They want people to stop bothering them and criticizing them to let them do what they want, loot the Treasury as much as they can without anyone in their way.

[Irish_Dem]

39. Yes this is the deal in Russia and China.

A majority of people have a bare bones lifestyle. Food on the table and a roof over their heads.
In exchange the people shut the hell up and let Putin and Xi terrorize them and the world daily.

[Traildogbob]

5. With you 100 percent.

The school Kids shot the same day, are Charlie’s so called cost of the 2nd amendment. Those families mean nothing. Disgraceful. Imagine the shit that will be forced on us when that hate filled fat ass child raper gets called home……..to Hell. 28/7. They will EO more hours per day to cover it.

[tblue37]

6. +1000

[mzmolly]

7. Kirk is a crisis actor.

THAT is the kind of bullshit launched at the families of Sandy Hook victims. Not to mention people like Kirk calling gun deaths worth the price.

[Hey Joe]

8. Thank You

This needed to be said. Enough already with this endless fawning over a known spreader of hate and disinformation. How many beautiful, decent people die every day in this country from gun violence. And many of them children. But they are not famous celebrities and do not rate the nonstop media feeding frenzy that brings in the big bucks.
Ridiculous and disgusting.

[Trueblue Texan]

9. You would think the whole thing was just a big distraction from the Epstein story or sumthin.

...or at the very least a distraction from the fact that Senate Republicans voted not to release the Epstein files.

[buzzycrumbhunger]

29. That's been my thought

… and it’s bolstered by the obvious fact this was not just some random gunman with a grudge. There were at least two men who immediately distracted by claiming they did it (distraction so the professional shooter could get away?) and this was not just a chance lucky shot.

Then there’s this: I can’t say this is definitely the same person, but… is it possible?

[Trueblue Texan]

34. And that bulge on his right thigh...

...matches the bulge on the right thigh of the person of interest photos they released this evening. Are those guys the same guy?

[flashman13]

10. Google Horst Wessel. You will understand it all.

Next comes a memorial on the Mall in DC.

[rubbersole]

19. ArchDuke Franz Ferdinand's assassination that started WW1 also comes to mind.

Like a snowball rollin' downhill. Shit got to start somewhere.

[subject]

35. Trump

would love a war.

[NJCher]

23. memorial

Next comes a memorial on the Mall in DC

and after that...

snip

After World War II, Wessel's memorial was vandalized and his remains and the remains of his brother Werner were exhumed and destroyed (the remains of Wessel's father, Ludwig, were left interred).[72] Such activity became common for buried Nazis in East Germany.

snip

(above from Wikipedia)

[Blue Full Moon]

11. Triumph of the Will ritual would be my guess.

Trump loves all things Hitler. Hitler did this ritual using blood of Horst Wessel. In this case Charlie Kirk. Hitler had gotten rid of traitor. In this case I guess Kirk gets that role too. There was a film made so that people who couldn't attend would still be able to participate in the ritual.

[paulrevere2018]

13. Ginning up the base. Charlie Kirk the human meant nothing to tfg.

[Figarosmom]

14. Oh just wait.

Trump will have him laid out in the rotunda and give him a state funeral.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

52. I'm sure of it.

Also Medal of Freedom, etc.

[paulrevere2018]

53. Yep. Kirk will be the maga version of Horst Wessel.

[JoseBalow]

15. Why is this an FBI investigation?

Was there a reason given why this shooting is being investigated by the FBI?

[rubbersole]

38. So Kash Patel could finally see straight.

[Buddyzbuddy]

16. If it's true, about his corpse being flown on #2

why in the f.ck am I paying for the racist bigoted nazi's transport?
I've kept my mouth shut, yesterday. I had nothing good to say. You a-holes can chip every last dollar you have to do whatever you want with him but keep my money out of it. He's duped enough Republicans out of their money to be able to afford his transport. Hell, I don't even want Vance flying around on my dollar, but that's another issue.
Yeah, I know. It's about making him a Saint, f.ck that sh.t. I think the Pope has canonization all booked up for this year.

I better shut up before I really lose it. Carry on everybody, be well, have a goodnight.

[Arkansas Granny]

17. Nobody seems to be talking about the Epstein Files today.

What a handy diversion this has been.

[Mossfern]

36. I was ....

but I'm just a little old lady.

[wendyb-NC]

18. Yes indeed, it's odd

I totally agree with you, the administration in the oval office is going all out for Mr Kirk. What about the other victims of gun violence, they were to small to be given a second thought. The precious children, all the innocent victims and their loved ones, the invisible ones. It doesn't make sense, but that's in line with all things, with this administration.

Ironically, there was a shooting in Evergreen CO at a high school, yesterday also. I didn't see any coverage, by the main TV stations. I learned about it from a DU post.

[Montauk6]

20. Ooh, you triggered me with the Sandy Hook reference!

I remember then-President Obama holding a press conference condemning the slaughter and how he fought back tears reflecting on what happened to those little kids. The trigger part is when I think of the low life pieces of hazmat-piercing garbage, led by that weaselly boar Alex Jones, mocking the man's emotions and calling the whole ordeal a HOAX!

Hey, ever notice when Trump first slithered his way into the WH, you didn't hear the phrase "crisis actors" as much? But I digress...

[yellow dahlia]

21. We are in the world of the upside down.

And it just keeps getting worse.

[Emile]

22. Way over the top coverage. My god!

[Demobrat]

26. If it bleeds it leads

and this was a made-for-television shooting complete with blood spurting close ups.
Of course every news outlet is going to milk it for all it’s worth.
But something else will come along and he’ll be swept into the dustbin of history where he belongs.
Probably sooner rather than later.

[RVN VET71]

27. Sorry not sorry

I am absolutely not sorry for the murder of Charlie Kirk. He represented the exact kind of man I pray to the heavens my grandson won't be. In fact, I think the heaven-sent kiddo wouldn't even think of emulating such a drab, misogynistic religious and political hypocrite. He's been raised to be an empathetic human being, a kid who cried at a "lonely leaf" that got stuck one rainy day on his bedroom window -- he was 3 years old the time.

Empathy for a leaf versus a man who has no empathy for anyone, any thing., I do feel sorry for the family he left behind. I know they must feel sad and wary at this moment and hope they have the support they might need to deal with their grief. It was his life that was assassinated, not theirs, and may they make the best of it.

Don't misunderstand. His murder is a crime of the worse kind. It's just the murders-by-proxy that Kirk and his ilk have enabled in America make his assassination pale almost to invisibility by comparison.

Still, if the assassin were caught and judged guilty by a jury of his peers -- and I were the judge in the case -- I would sentence him to the harshest penalty available under the law. Because, even though I despised Charlie Kirk, I love the law and understand its binding effect on a nation, even one like ours that is coming apart at the seems.

I will not a shed a tear, but if the killer is apprehended, I won't join any protesters seeking his release or exoneration.

[Crunchy Frog]

42. I can't imagine that anyone would protest on the killer's behalf. That's reserved for J6 terrorists.

[iemanja]

28. I wish we didn't have to see a it all over DU.

I’d like to move on to something else. I know it’s news, but it’s not that important to me. That probably seems cold.

[Emile]

30. I totally agree. Senate Republicans voting against

releasing all the Epstein files, is what the media and du need to be talking about.

[barbtries]

33. not to me.

i'm so disgusted by it all that i've basically been cowering from the news all day.

[C Moon]

31. Just now on the radio (NPR) they went into every corner

of his life like he was JFK.

And from the quotes I saw, he was not one of the good guys.

I didn’t even know who he was b4 yesterday.

[Emile]

44. I never heard of him either. This coverage is ridiculous.

[barbtries]

32. it is sick propaganda

period.

last i looked nobody's been arrested. we don't know why he was killed, let alone who killed him.

we are in truly insane times.

[Mossfern]

37. Yup

Trump has made this into another episode of The Apprentice.

Epstein Epstein Epstein

[fujiyamasan]

40. Horst Wessell

Fascist playbook.

We’re not living in normal times. All media has capitulated. They have received their talking points and they will stick to it. It may not all be Fox, but it’s always nice to make the audience believe they’re having a variety of viewpoints.

[Crunchy Frog]

41. This seems highly coordinated and staged. It's about turning a vile fascist punk into a martyr, and using his death

to create a narrative about "the left" and the Democrats as all being violent killers who have to be stopped and crushed. Through the use of violence, of course.

I do wonder whether CK was a victim of the American Fascist Party's need to create a pretext to crush the opposition. It strikes me as similar to the Kirov murder in the Soviet Union in 1934.

I'm not quite buying that this was a random act of politically motivated gun violence. The behavior of our nation's fascist leadership doesn't fit that scenario.

[58Sunliner]

43. Why it's almost like the coverage and the reaction was coordinated.

[ECL213]

46. Bread and Circuses

I haven't heard a stitch about Epstein in the last two days.

[Scubamatt]

49. Given the breaking news

that the shooter came from a right wing background, I'd love to see our leadership start asking questions why a rightie would kill Kirk - except for Kirk's statements about releasing the Epstein files. It's troubling that while this was blowing up, the Senate voted against releasing the files. There's enough connection there to ask questions that get the Epstein files back front and center.

[patphil]

48. The number of people killed by guns each year in the US as per the Pew Research Center.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/05/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-us/

It was over 46 thousand in 2023. Over half were suicides.
That's a pretty high price to pay for the right to own guns.

[bif]

50. Franky, I'm tired of seeing 3/4ths of GD filled with posts about him.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

54. They also want to distract

From the Epstein files. All we need is one more Republican vote and all of it is public info