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dpibel

(3,665 posts)
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:19 PM Thursday

WTF NYT?

Last edited Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:56 PM - Edit history (1)

From the NYT "The Morning" email's closing paragraph of its coverage of the Kirk murder:

"Kirk, a Christian, lived in Arizona with his wife and two children."

We are now including religious affiliation in reportage?

I honestly don't recall seeing that before. Nor do I know what it has to do with anything about the story.

Adding link: https://static.nytimes.com/email-content/NN_sample.html

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NoMoreRepugs

(11,599 posts)
2. Christian Nationalist would be more accurate I think, but still uncalled for in the article.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:21 PM
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NCDem47

(3,001 posts)
3. An implication being made
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:25 PM
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That he was killed for being a “Christian.”

And what part of his documented hate speech was “love thy neighbor?”

Ugh. I convinced my significant other to FINALLY cancel the NYT online this past week.

RockRaven

(17,975 posts)
7. His religion is highly germane insofar as it informed or justified much of his ugly behavior,
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:32 PM
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but in that case more specificity is required because that ugliness is specific to his subsection of Christianity and many other Christians from other subsections behave contrariwise.

But even then that is not the correct place for it in the article, nor is a mention only in passing appropriate. If they want to convey that piece of information because they deem it relevant and significant, they should be naming his denomination and church.

What NYT is doing there, IMO, is signalling to others in the in-group that "he's one of us, AKA he's a good person, AKA he should be mourned."

MagickMuffin

(17,894 posts)
8. Faux christian, he never once advocated for the teachings of Jesus
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:33 PM
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I’ve read what he has said and I believe Jesus never advocated hate and violence against anyone.

Ya know that other 2nd amendment err, I mean 2 Commandment.

#1 Love God: To love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.

#2 Love Your Neighbor: To love your neighbor as yourself.

You don’t have to follow #1, as the 1st Amendment gets overlooked as well.


Ilsa

(63,273 posts)
9. Kirk had told one college student that he didn't need
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:34 PM
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to announce his sexual preference when he introduced himself, that he was more than his sexuality.

The same should go for Kirk. His religious status belongs in an obituary. The fact that NYT felt they had to mention it means Christianity was a big part of Kirk's public schtick. Ge wasn't just a Conservative Influencer, he was a Christian Conservative Influencer.

Ilsa

(63,273 posts)
16. I believe it! I never read or listened to any of his garbage
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 04:08 PM
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except what has been quoted here. He was quite the hater.

dalton99a

(90,155 posts)
11. Safely in the arms of the Blond Blue-Eyed English-Speaking Jesus (not the swarthy Middle Eastern one)
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:37 PM
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