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kentuck

(114,647 posts)
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:06 AM Thursday

Who would stand to benefit from the death of Charlie Kirk?

In a way, it reminds me of the assassination of Alan Berg, liberal radio broadcaster who was murdered back in the "80's. He was killed by white supremacists. Berg was Jewish.

I would not be surprised if Kirk was killed for similar reasons. Perhaps they hoped to start a race war?

It's a stretch of a conspiracy theory to say that Kirk was starting to push for the public exposure of all the Epstein files and the Trump regime did not need that publicity at this time from one of their own.

It's possible that he had some personal enemies that we don't know about? Perhaps he made enemies with some of the hateful and bigoted stuff that he talked about?

I certainly do not see enough liberal interest in him for it to be any type of Democratic Party conspiracy.

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Who would stand to benefit from the death of Charlie Kirk? (Original Post) kentuck Thursday OP
You know who Horst Wessel was? Just_Vote_Dem Thursday #1
He was a martyr for the Nazis... kentuck Thursday #6
Yes, I fear they are following the Nazi playbook n/t Just_Vote_Dem Thursday #8
Humankind will benefit. pwb Thursday #2
One of the extremists is silenced Marthe48 Thursday #3
Could be as simple as another incel looking for their 15 minutes. Or it could be more sinister. Silent Type Thursday #4
DFT, for one EYESORE 9001 Thursday #5
Charlie Kirk Backtracks on Epstein After Presidential Call Celerity Thursday #7
Did he backtrack again in his more recent comments? kentuck Thursday #10
not that I am aware of Celerity Thursday #12
Perhaps TFG had already issued the 'contract' for assassination EYESORE 9001 Thursday #11
Kirk bent the knee immediately after Trump called him. Celerity Thursday #13
Yes, he was a very valuable voice to getting out the youth vote. kentuck Thursday #14
He was also aging out and becoming less relatable. haele Thursday #25
the far older Joe Rogan (58) and Jordan Peterson (63) are massively popular with young RWers, especially the male ones Celerity Thursday #28
he may have been a factor in 2028 rampartd Thursday #9
Who would benefit from Kirks death? Good question. Is it possible that he had some personal enemies mitch96 Thursday #15
Wouldn't the obvious answer be people who hated what he stood for? EdmondDantes_ Thursday #16
I was surprised at the size of the crowd. kentuck Thursday #17
That would be the obvious answer (and using Occam's Razor the correct one) pcdb Thursday #18
That is not an 'obvious' answer GenThePerservering Thursday #30
It does not follow Torchlight Thursday #20
The greater likelihood, IMO, is the people who are turning him into a martyr and an excuse to carry out purges Crunchy Frog Thursday #22
The obvious answer is always the correct one.. Permanut Thursday #29
His wife and kids? hunter Thursday #19
I was just about to post that. GoCubsGo Thursday #24
Who do you think is benefitting? This is like Stalin's murder of Kirov. Crunchy Frog Thursday #21
I think it may have been an "opportunity" killing... kentuck Thursday #23
Nick Fuentes and/or his fans, for example. RockRaven Thursday #26
"Where there is a dead body. . ." DinahMoeHum Thursday #27
Putin, for one CanonRay Thursday #31
DONALD TRUMP. Xoan Thursday #32
Trump. 58Sunliner Thursday #33
These responses are so typical iemanja Thursday #34
Donald Trump Emile Thursday #35
Honestly, the MAGAs benefit Buckeyeblue Thursday #36

kentuck

(114,647 posts)
6. He was a martyr for the Nazis...
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:13 AM
Thursday

The regime will attempt to make Kirk into a similar martyr, I would agree.

Silent Type

(11,068 posts)
4. Could be as simple as another incel looking for their 15 minutes. Or it could be more sinister.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:12 AM
Thursday

EYESORE 9001

(29,034 posts)
5. DFT, for one
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:12 AM
Thursday

IMO this was a warning to the entire RW blogosphere about toeing the line where criticism of dear leader is concerned.

kentuck

(114,647 posts)
10. Did he backtrack again in his more recent comments?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:18 AM
Thursday

That was my impression.

Although he did say a while back that he was not going to talk about it anymore. But, he believed he could say anything in the name of free speech.

EYESORE 9001

(29,034 posts)
11. Perhaps TFG had already issued the 'contract' for assassination
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:19 AM
Thursday

before Kirk bent the knee.

Celerity

(51,974 posts)
13. Kirk bent the knee immediately after Trump called him.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:24 AM
Thursday

Kirk was a somewhat unique vote-producing machine (with the youth vote especially) for Trump and the Rethugs. It makes no sense for them to kill off the golden egg-laying goose.

kentuck

(114,647 posts)
14. Yes, he was a very valuable voice to getting out the youth vote.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:30 AM
Thursday

However, he had already made known his position that the Epstein files should all be made public, before he agreed to Trump's request to not talk about it anymore. His position was already known by his listeners.

haele

(14,582 posts)
25. He was also aging out and becoming less relatable.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 03:56 PM
Thursday

There's a subtle culture gap between 30 year olds with families and younger single 20 year olds, especially among conservatives.
Who, ironically, still wanna have fun and be bois and girly girls, instead of settling down and maintaining gender roles with just one partner.

Celerity

(51,974 posts)
28. the far older Joe Rogan (58) and Jordan Peterson (63) are massively popular with young RWers, especially the male ones
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 04:11 PM
Thursday

rampartd

(2,435 posts)
9. he may have been a factor in 2028
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:17 AM
Thursday

in more byzantine times "clearing the path to the throne."

mitch96

(15,469 posts)
15. Who would benefit from Kirks death? Good question. Is it possible that he had some personal enemies
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:10 PM
Thursday

Or a rival and needed to "displace" to advance his position?
Like what Hitler did to his partner and upcoming rival Ernst Röhm in 1934
History rhyming again?
It will be interesting to see who rises to fill kirks shoes..
m

EdmondDantes_

(918 posts)
16. Wouldn't the obvious answer be people who hated what he stood for?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:25 PM
Thursday

It only takes one person who convinces themselves to go too far, and the more people who hate someone, the more number of people there are who would be in that mental state.

The Silent Brotherhood who killed Alan Berg were on the opposite side of him and killed him for being a liberal Jew. So your own example tends towards it being a liberal person. And Berg had a lot of the same shtick as Kirk in terms of being deliberately provocative of people he disagreed with to the point the racists who killed him drove hundreds of miles to do so. You can say that there wasn't enough liberal interest in him, but one of his big things was going to college campuses and debating with random students so maybe you just weren't as aware of him. Look at how many people were gathered there as part of his student debates.

kentuck

(114,647 posts)
17. I was surprised at the size of the crowd.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:32 PM
Thursday

But the nail that sticks up usually gets hammered down. Kirk chose to stick up.

pcdb

(49 posts)
18. That would be the obvious answer (and using Occam's Razor the correct one)
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:56 PM
Thursday

But several here think Russia did it for some reason so convoluted you need a graphing calculator to figure it out. Or Trump ordered a hit to cover up some Epstein evidence that Kirk, and only Kirk, had. I'm sure there's many more whacky theories, but the obvious answer is someone from the left murdered him.

There's a lot of us out there and it only takes one lunatic to do something like this.

GenThePerservering

(3,061 posts)
30. That is not an 'obvious' answer
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 04:33 PM
Thursday

he had plenty of opposition on the right, as well, and there are a lot of freebooters with a hazy agenda of violence.

The obvious answer is that we do not know.

Torchlight

(5,692 posts)
20. It does not follow
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 03:12 PM
Thursday

(an illogical conclusion where the argument's conclusion does not logically derive from its premises)

Crunchy Frog

(27,980 posts)
22. The greater likelihood, IMO, is the people who are turning him into a martyr and an excuse to carry out purges
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 03:20 PM
Thursday

of the "radical left". His hate is being massively amplified and utilized for RW political agendas, so no, the "obvious" answer is wrong.

GoCubsGo

(34,311 posts)
24. I was just about to post that.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 03:47 PM
Thursday

The kids, anyway. They're still too young to have their minds poisoned by him, and now they won't That being said, I am sorry they will be growing up without their father, as as hateful and bigoted that he was. Don't know anything about his wife, she could be just as awful, given that she married the guy.

kentuck

(114,647 posts)
23. I think it may have been an "opportunity" killing...
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 03:39 PM
Thursday

Perhaps by a Proud Boy or white nationalist, in hopes of sparking a war between the races. Kirk would have been the best victim they could find.

RockRaven

(18,002 posts)
26. Nick Fuentes and/or his fans, for example.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 04:01 PM
Thursday

Fuentes and his acolytes have been rhetorically attacking Kirk and TPUSA for years. In response to being attacked from the right, and by a younger grifter no less, Kirk moved further right to compensate.

DinahMoeHum

(23,168 posts)
27. "Where there is a dead body. . ."
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 04:02 PM
Thursday
". . .there the vultures will gather."

- Matthew 24:28 / Luke 17:37

CanonRay

(15,610 posts)
31. Putin, for one
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 04:59 PM
Thursday

Look at the calls for civil war, the increased hate for us even though no suspects have been named.

iemanja

(56,687 posts)
34. These responses are so typical
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 05:48 PM
Thursday

And mean nothing when they have no idea who the shooter even is. How about waiting until they identify the shooter? This defensiveness is premature. Even if he is on the left, it has fuck all to do with any of us. That is, until you manage to make it about DUers through posts like these.

Emile

(37,499 posts)
35. Donald Trump
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:31 PM
Thursday

The media is not talking about Republicans voting against releasing the Epstein files yesterday morning.

Buckeyeblue

(6,007 posts)
36. Honestly, the MAGAs benefit
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 08:36 PM
Thursday

Kirk was just a talker. Getting rid of a talker is like getting rid of a drug dealer, one goes and three others pop up. So for someone on the left to get rid of Kirk, it would be like playing wack-a-mole. But MAGAs can play this thing out. They can stir people up. And we'll never get the complete truth from this DOJ. Just remember everything they tell us about this case is probably a lie.

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