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H2O Man

(78,159 posts)
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 01:22 PM Sep 5

Be Here Now

Those who have been paying attention know that the felon has been trying to distract attention from the Epstein – Maxwell scandal. The corporate media has largely moved past its coverage of the administration's refusal to release the files that were promised in the 2024 presidential campaign. Instead, White House correspondents have focused on the emperor's fashionable new outfit.

Yet public interest in the Epstein – Maxwell scandal remains high. It sticks around like fresh cat shit on a hobnail boot, and clings to the felon like Napoleon in rags offering to make a deal. Republicans in Congress hoped that calling Bill Barr to testify behind closed doors would satisfy the public. It didn't. Podcasts from left to right have continued to focus on the issues.

Now, we know how the felon and his flock of parasites do when there is a hint of bad news. He threatened to sue the Wall Street Journal if they published his birthday card to Epstein. That came to the WSJ from Maxwell's family in England, and he knew they have more. So he sent his lawyer to interview her, which translated to her being moved to a vacation club in Texas – until mid-November of next year. Just say some nice things about the felon.

Why the panic? Because the Epstein – Maxwell case is important to the Q-anon/maga supporters. The felon's campaign promised to release them. They had released a book of previously released documents, which shows how stupid they think the cult is. But then a manikin in the DOJ office said she had “the list” on her desk. It later said there was actually a “truckload” of files. A percentage of the cult is demanding to see them.

Again, they were seeking to convince a target audience. But their tactics are not limited to a single, specific audience. Let's look at the grass roots' effort to have the victims' voices heard. The current republican Congress doesn't want to listen to the victims. It's bad enough for them knowing that the Q-anon/maga cult is not going to let go of this. They are by nature attracted to conspiracy theories – such as the campaign sold them – and now question how Epstein died.

The potential for even a small percentage of the felon's flock recognizing that they have been lied to, or in the words of Malcolm X, "Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!” ….. while they are unlikely to vote for Democrats in 2026, they might not vote at all. Republicans who thought that Bill Barr behind doors would quench their thirst will suffer in the mid-terms.

So what group of voters will the felon & fiends try to disrupt? Democrats, of course. Watch for the use of dog whistles on the internet, even in places you might not anticipate it. For example, in reaction to the event with victims of Epstein and Maxwell, they will focus on the fact that one said she had voted for the felon. It is fair to say that Stephen Miller knows that many Democrats have an instinctive dislike and distrust for anyone who supported the felon.

Miller learned from the Russian influence in the 2016 election that the internet provides fertile ground to plant misinformation and disinformation. Does anyone doubt that there is a wide spread, though low level, operation to splatter shit on the internet? Or that the felon, taught by Roy Cohn, doesn't attack his opponent's strong points?

Some of the media understood that a former supporter who was an Epstein victim saying she thinks the felon betrayed her is a great thing for the Democratic Party. They do not “mistrust” her because of who she voted for. Quite the opposite. Watch Lawrence on MSNBC, and read the following:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/epstein-victim-put-her-hope-202036231.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/epstein-victim-voted-trump-blasts-150628908.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

This doesn't mean that everyone who wonders aloud, “How could she vote for that spastic asshole?” is purposely trying to lead you astray. Some are, of course. But none of us here are in a position of moral superiority to a victim who had been led astray, but now – right now – is doing the right thing. And, for that matter, is doing much more to help us defeat the felon than anyone here – and at a greater risk to her own safety and well-being.

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Be Here Now (Original Post) H2O Man Sep 5 OP
I am not judging her and wish her healing. She is very brave to admit it. Keepthesoulalive Sep 5 #1
Right! H2O Man Sep 5 #2
There are more than you see Easterncedar Sep 6 #3
Right! H2O Man Sep 6 #4

Keepthesoulalive

(1,987 posts)
1. I am not judging her and wish her healing. She is very brave to admit it.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:07 PM
Sep 5

But the farmers and others who voted for him 3 times can spin on it.

H2O Man

(78,159 posts)
2. Right!
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:36 PM
Sep 5

Don't get me wrong ....... I'd rather live in an area with normal human beings for neighbors. I wouldn't even judge men who opt to wear short hair, even though I neither understand or approve of short hair on men. I've learned to deal with it when my daughters have dated short-haired men. It can be hard living in rural, upstate New York's sticks, where is only one household of Democrats within miles of me in every direction. I nod and say hi to them, as they are old hippies. It's not his fault that he is bald. God works in strange ways. Since he doesn't wear a toupee, I am tempted to tell him he is as good as real men.

Now, on a serious note: Chief Paul Waterman taught that in social-political life, it is an error to think the people who were on the other side of issues in the past cannot be on your side now or in the future. Water changes in the stream of time. Adapt to the currents on the way to your goals.

Easterncedar

(5,166 posts)
3. There are more than you see
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 09:53 PM
Sep 6

I know a good liberal retired cop in your neighborhood. She has long hair!

H2O Man

(78,159 posts)
4. Right!
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 10:39 PM
Sep 6

At one of the sites where my friends & I attend rallies, I run into friends I knew when I worked at the mental health clinic. There are some community-based crises that require a combined response from mental health and law enforcement. The clinic always sent me out, likely in part because I was always calm in such crises. (I've had shotguns pointed close to my head, which is a huge target. An hour after resolution, I might think, "By gosh, I'd like a drink," however. Set the record for getting death threats. But being Irish by nature, I enjoyed danger.)

One is retired from the sheriff's office, the other retired after a career as a BCI investigator. Everyone knows and trusts them. They both have short hair, though in defense of the retired investigator, he has a classic Irish red beard. Having had contact with many Irish catholics, I share the idea that one should forgive men for opting to have short hair.


Note: my attempts at humor are based upon an interview with John Lennon that I heard in 1968. I am incapable of remembering it word for word, much less joke for joke. However, a relatively short time later, both John & Yoko shaved their heads.

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