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demmiblue

(38,678 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:56 PM Thursday

Trump to sign executive order renaming Pentagon the Department of War

President Donald Trump is expected to sign an executive order on Friday that will change the name of the Defense Department to the Department of War, a White House official told CNN.

It’s a move that the president has previewed in recent days, including in the Oval Office last week when he told reporters his administration was going to “change the name.”

“We call it the Department of Defense, but between us, I think we’re gonna change the name,” the president told reporters on August 25.

“We won the World War 1, World War 2 - it was called the Department of War, and to me, that’s really what it is. Defense is a part of that, but I have a feeling we’re gonna be changing.”

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/04/politics/department-of-war-trump-executive-order
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Trump to sign executive order renaming Pentagon the Department of War (Original Post) demmiblue Thursday OP
This means he's going to war against Europe and NATO and the American people Eliot Rosewater Thursday #1
But wait nothing to worry about, earlier today when I suggested Eliot Rosewater Thursday #2
Yep. A war department needs a war to wage. Captain Zero Thursday #3
President Bonespurs will leave nothing untouched. IcyPeas Thursday #4
Shocked he hasn't already to Trump land or piece of shit land Eliot Rosewater Thursday #5
He will take us into war before his time is up. He itching for it. spanone Thursday #6
I think he's pissed about the Gulf of America thing Johonny Thursday #7
Lame. nt Tommy Carcetti Thursday #8
Fairly certain Soviet Marshal's... Xolodno Thursday #9
How much is this going to cost? jls4561 Thursday #10
The new logo Diraven Thursday #14
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Thursday #11
Hmmm, since Congress funds the Defense Dept, wouldn't the War Dept have nothing? Attilatheblond Thursday #12
The expense is going to be astronomical. C_U_L8R Thursday #13
They'll probably just take it out of the Department funds Diraven Thursday #15
+1 dalton99a Thursday #16
Doesn't seem to align LisaL Thursday #17
Up next: Washington DC to be called Trumptown, Smithsonian renamed struggle4progress Thursday #18
Oh just go fuck right off and shove your bullshit executive order where it doesn't shine, Donny! Initech Thursday #19
Department of War... kairos12 Friday #20
And this from someone who has never experienced a moment of war in his life question everything Friday #21
Trump's going to rename it Pantaloon because he always has his panties in a bunch. TheBlackAdder Friday #22
Update: it turns out the new name (Department of War) is actually a nickname as it's a "secondary title" lol LetMyPeopleVote Friday #23
MaddowBlog-Trump wants to rebrand the Defense Department as the 'Department of War' LetMyPeopleVote Friday #24
It is still the Department of Defense LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #25
And what was formerly the White House WestMichRad Yesterday #26
So what Sewa Yesterday #27

Eliot Rosewater

(33,872 posts)
1. This means he's going to war against Europe and NATO and the American people
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:01 PM
Thursday

There is no question about it, the question is what are we going to do about it?

This idea came from Hegseth most certainly who is itching to start wars with all non-white areas and some white areas

Eliot Rosewater

(33,872 posts)
2. But wait nothing to worry about, earlier today when I suggested
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:04 PM
Thursday

The piece of shit would have our military fighting against Europe and NATO alongside Russians, at least one person thought my suggestion was so ridiculous the person just did nothing but laugh.

So I guess we don’t have to worry about them doing anything like that, just me again going overboard projecting shit, I would stop if I was wrong.

Johonny

(24,494 posts)
7. I think he's pissed about the Gulf of America thing
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:12 PM
Thursday

He can't rename a body of water because no other country is going to follow his stupid lead, but he can probably force everyone in the executive branch to call it the Department of War.

Xolodno

(7,143 posts)
9. Fairly certain Soviet Marshal's...
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:18 PM
Thursday

Zhukov and Konev would have a difference of opinion during WW2.

jls4561

(2,675 posts)
10. How much is this going to cost?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:19 PM
Thursday

They have to relabel everything-buildings, stationary, etc.

When the Department of War became the DOD, it was to unify the army, navy and Air Force (and I guess the Coast Guard) after World War Two.

Is Fatass going to design the new logo? Because that Star Trek ripoff he came up with for space force is soo kewl.

Every time the idiot comes up with a new idea (and I use the term loosely) someone needs to ask “How much is this costing the American people?”

I nominate Elizabeth Warren to ask the question.

Diraven

(1,537 posts)
14. The new logo
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:34 PM
Thursday

Will likely have Trump's own face on it. He won't be able to resist, and Hegseth won't be able to resist sucking up.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

C_U_L8R

(48,009 posts)
13. The expense is going to be astronomical.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:30 PM
Thursday

Every sign, every system, every contract, every scrap of paper and bit of data, all of it will need to be redone and rebranded. Is the Republican kissass Congress really going to approve this vainglorious boondoggle? Not with our dollars!!

Diraven

(1,537 posts)
15. They'll probably just take it out of the Department funds
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:37 PM
Thursday

Since they have a trillion dollar budget now.

struggle4progress

(124,348 posts)
18. Up next: Washington DC to be called Trumptown, Smithsonian renamed
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:01 PM
Thursday

Donald's Big Beautiful House of Snacks, Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool redesignated as National Waterhazard

Initech

(106,194 posts)
19. Oh just go fuck right off and shove your bullshit executive order where it doesn't shine, Donny!
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:49 PM
Thursday

They wouldn't be calling it that unless they're about to do some really evil shit.

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,314 posts)
23. Update: it turns out the new name (Department of War) is actually a nickname as it's a "secondary title" lol
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 07:44 PM
Friday

This is only nickname



LetMyPeopleVote

(169,314 posts)
24. MaddowBlog-Trump wants to rebrand the Defense Department as the 'Department of War'
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 07:45 PM
Friday

The president insisted that he and his team were “gonna change the name” of the Defense Department. As it turns out, that isn’t quite right.

Trump wants to rebrand the Defense Department as the ‘Department of War’
The president insisted that he and his team were “gonna change the name” of the Defense Department. As it turns out, that isn’t quite right.

www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

(@midnightsun49.bsky.social) 2025-09-05T17:20:31.892Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-wants-rebrand-defense-department-department-war-rcna229303

It would be far more accurate to say that Trump likes to pretend he’s good at branding, and that leads him in some unfortunate directions. NBC News reported on Trump’s upcoming executive order to add “Department of War” as the secondary title of the Defense Department:

The order, which Trump is expected to sign in the Oval Office, won’t rename the Defense Department, but it will authorize Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to use secondary titles like ‘secretary of war’ and ‘Department of War’ in official correspondence and public communications and during formal ceremonies, according to a White House preview of the order. Trump will require all executive departments and agencies to ‘recognize and accommodate these secondary titles in internal and external communications.


......At a White House event last week, a reporter reminded the president that it would require an act of Congress to rename a Cabinet agency. He replied, “We’re just gonna do it.”

The comment now makes more sense: Trump isn’t renaming the department; he’s wrapping a new skin around it like a cheap sedan.

We’ve been headed down this path for much of the year. The first hint came in March, when the president published an item to his social media platform that referred in passing to the Pentagon as “the Department of War.” A few months later, he reiterated his interest in the change and even referred to Pentagon chief Pete Hegseth as the “secretary of war.”.....

On the other hand, Trump has also destabilized international alliances and institutions, announced plans to acquire countries that don’t appear to have any interest in joining the United States, launched a preemptive strike against Iran, militarized his own country’s capital, mused about launching military strikes against targets in Mexico and Central America, boasted about a military strike against a civilian boat in international waters and is now rebranding the Pentagon — because “we want offense, too.”

If he’s still angling to get that Nobel, he might want to lower his expectations.

trump knows that he does not have votes in congress to officially change the name and so is playing a game here
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