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senseandsensibility

(23,598 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:29 PM Yesterday

Which one do you believe?

Susan Monarez, who wrote in her op-ed that she was asked to resign because RFK, Jr. asked her to sign off on his non scientific schedule for childhood vaccines, or RFK himself who said that he fired her because he asked her if she was a trustworthy person and she said no.

I know who I believe.

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sop

(15,806 posts)
2. He asked if she could be trusted to quietly sign off on his non scientific schedule for childhood vaccines
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:39 PM
Yesterday

and not disagree publicly. She refused, so he fired her. That's what I believe.

senseandsensibility

(23,598 posts)
4. I guess that's a plausible explanation
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:44 PM
Yesterday

but IMHO it's giving RFK a little too much credit. It will be interesting to see how/if Susan Monarez responds to his wild accusation.

senseandsensibility

(23,598 posts)
6. Kind of, but in lieu of the fact
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:47 PM
Yesterday

that the corporate media will not just call this guy a liar in the same way they shy away from calling out his boss, I think it needs to be pointed out. One of these people has credibility and the other doesn't.

hlthe2b

(111,190 posts)
7. Good gawd. Even if you knew neither one nor nothing about the context, who the hell would go in and
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:53 PM
Yesterday

tell someone (when asked if you were a trustworthy person) would answer "no!" Really? As believable as my bank account showing a deposit of a hundred Brazillion dollars tomorrow morning.

Insane bullshit out of RFK's mouth--just like everything else he said today.

senseandsensibility

(23,598 posts)
8. Not only is he stupid, he thinks everyone else is
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:10 PM
Yesterday

As you say, no one would believe that. But I heard him say it twice during live hearings this morning. He looked really proud of himself too.

canetoad

(19,385 posts)
9. He has a terrible speaking voice
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:17 PM
Yesterday

And he probably said, "Do you trust me." and she misheard and said, "No."

Irish_Dem

(73,828 posts)
11. Yes something along these lines.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:20 PM
Yesterday

No one trusts him so he calls everyone else untrustworthy.

Ms. Toad

(37,632 posts)
12. His voice is the result of a disability -
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:27 PM
Yesterday

Spasmodic dysphonia. Same as Diane Rehm.

You might want to drop the commentary on how his voice sounds.

canetoad

(19,385 posts)
13. I'd rather not
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:29 PM
Yesterday

If you don't mind (or even if you do). Anything RFK says is fair game.

Ms. Toad

(37,632 posts)
14. It isn't what he says, it is the nature of his voice.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:36 PM
Yesterday

And no, criticizing or poking fun at individuals for their disabilities is beyond the pale.

Criticize what he says all you want - any of that is fair game. It is his voice, which is caused by a disability, that is not.

canetoad

(19,385 posts)
15. Well then
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:56 PM
Yesterday

I'll just remain "beyond the pale" ( a little hyperbolic, don't you think?), thank you for your little lecture and go on my way.

Ms. Toad

(37,632 posts)
16. I don't think it is.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:02 PM
Yesterday

I take it you thought it was hunky dory when Trump mocked a disabled reporter for his disabilities? Or mocked Biden because he has cancer?

canetoad

(19,385 posts)
18. This makes me laugh out loud
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:59 PM
23 hrs ago

You have no earthly clue as to what I am OK with or not. Over-reach, please save the condescension for someone who fully appreciates it. I'm off to plant a garden. You?

Ms. Toad

(37,632 posts)
19. All I have to go by is that you think it is just fine to mock someone with spasmodic dysphonia.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:22 PM
23 hrs ago

It's just a logical extension of your willingness to mock one disability that mocking other disabilities is just fine with you, as well. Disabilities don't have political affiliations - and mocking anyone because of a disability (or using a disability to mock someone) should be completely off the table.

I'm in the harvesting stage of gardening. Basil is crisping up in the dehydrator, 50 oz of tomatoes in the refrigerator last night. Tomatoes just waiting to be chopped up.

senseandsensibility

(23,598 posts)
17. Well, if you are unqualified and not intelligent, it must be tempting
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:28 PM
Yesterday

to do so, especially if you have a whole RW mediasphere that will just nod along and celebrate you.

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