I am floored at rfk jr hearing.

[drray23]

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He is even crazier than i thought. Completely ignorant of everything. He is even denying knowing that covid killed people and if vaccines saved lives.

He has absolutely zero shame in stating this nonsense. I guess its a super power the magats have. I would be mortified if I was trashed like that in a panel review ( I am a scientist). Even the gop senators were tearing into him.

[Traildogbob]

1. Thank you for the update

Can’t listen, the lying is worse than the dried leather vocals. Did he drink bleach? Maybe ivermectin would help.
Good to hear repukes are at least making a show of concern, Collin’s level.

[drray23]

3. I think for some its not a show its real.

Some of them who are doctors are blowing a gasket. They are genuinely concerned about the impending health crisis. Of course , they should have realized it earlier and not voted to confirm him.

[Traildogbob]

5. Great to hear.

[returnee]

74. To their eternal shame....

…they did vote for him. Now, impeach him, you morons!

[flamingdem]

83. They would have justified their yes vote

regardless. Spineless MDs.

[Ritabert]

4. He has spasmodic dysphonia supposedly

BOTOX injections may help. I can't listen to him.

[Traildogbob]

6. I knew it was

Something medical, and I should not mock, but damn, does this murderer deserve respect? Look who he bows to.

[Ritabert]

35. He gets no respect from me.

[The Blue Flower]

52. Spasmodic dysphonia means he's very hoarse sometimes

It isn't a treatable disease. It's like a facial tic in his larynx.

[Maru Kitteh]

41. It's from his massive drug abuse. He should be dead.

But no. He’s a cabinet secretary instead.

[womanofthehills]

55. Wrong - one of his sisters has a similar voice

Kerry Kennedy also has a raspy voice though not as bad as his. Some people think Rory Kennedy has a mild form. Lots of causes including genetics.

Like him or hate him his drug use was when he was young after his Uncle & dad were killed. He’s been big in AA for over 40 yrs - still goes to meetings regularly-

[Ms. Toad]

80. It has zero to do with his drug abuse.

He has spasmodic dysphonia. Same condition Diane Rehm has, which nearly ended her radio career.

[enigmania]

92. Probably from upper respiratory infections due

to snorting "substances".

[Ms. Toad]

28. He has spasmodic dysphonia.

Not dried vocal chords or bleached damaged vocal chords. Lay off the nature of his voice. Criticizing disabilities isn't cool.

[GusBob]

43. Yep

Hitler had horrible halitosis and flatulence too

[Lovie777]

2. Then what killed over 600,000 here and.....

millions around the world? What saved millions?

I’ll say COVID vaccine saved millions including me who has chronic bronchitis.

[Trueblue Texan]

25. I believe that number is closer to 1.3 million. nt

[VMA131Marine]

54. There were well over 1 million COVID deaths

We’ll never know the true number but it is almost certainly much higher than the 1.3 million reported number. Lots of people died and were not autopsied so an official cause of death was not recorded.

[karynnj]

33. It is devastating that RFK jr is throwing away a hard won victory

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I can remember before the vaccine that a group of us, outside, at least 6 feet from each other and masked, were speaking with a neighbor who was working at the NIH remotely from VT. Someone asked how things could return to normal.

He said a vaccine which would get enough people resistant to Covid and treatments that were tested and worked. It was the hard work of scientists and doctors that did this and made life better.

You can quibble over whether some states were too cautious as the first vaccines made infection less, but still significant. It makes no sense to argue vaccines were not a game changer.

A comparison of death rates from Covid in the period after the vaccine became available shows a very strong correlation to the percent vaccinated.

[lapfog_1]

56. mRNA vaccine saved my life

as well as Paxlovid.

The second time I came down with Covid... I had 2 vaccinations, the first being the almost useless J&J vaccine and one of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine. When I started feeling bad ( I am over 65, with type 2 diabetes and WPW ), I immediately tested and was positive. I paid a buttload of money right away for Paxlovid... and for the next 3 days felt like death warmed over. Magically on the 5th day, most of my symptoms abated and I felt "almost normal". I was monitoring my blood oxygen and on the 3rd day I think it was like 80... or even in the 70s... I should have gone to the hospital.

Anyway, I survived... and in another week I was back to work, doing just fine.

The first time I had Covid it was before vaccines or medication. I made it through but it lasted like 2 months... to the point where I couldn't catch my breath enough to talk ( and finish a sentence ).

RFKJR is a huge idiot and a danger to every American.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

7. He fucking has no answers, or lies, or is incoherent. Republicans are going after him also.

[sop]

8. What happened to this man? When did he go completely off the rails?

I remember listening to the 'Ring of Fire' show on the radio, hosted by RFK Jr., Mike Papantonio and Sam Seder years ago. Kennedy made sense back in those days; he was solidly progressive, always with a strong grasp on reality. Then he got involved with Trump and totally lost the plot. Seems to happen to everyone in Trump world.

[obamanut2012]

10. He has been like this since he was a kid

[FalloutShelter]

29. Heroin

Requires your brain and not in a good way.

[malaise]

53. THIS

Rec

[ITAL]

11. It's the vaccine thing

I've seen more people than just Kennedy go completely off the rails. One of my cousins was a huge Bernie Sanders supporter who during covid went absolutely nuts with all the junk science. I don't even know if she voted for Trump, but she's a true nutcase regarding the lethality of vaccines and is convinced just about everything in healthcare is designed to kill us. She wants Fauci and Bill Gates put to death.

[AllyCat]

94. I have two siblings like this. They just completely jumped the shark.

[muriel_volestrangler]

14. His first big anti-vax BS seems to have been "Deadly Immunity" in 2005, published by Rolling Stone and Salon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_Immunity

Both publications eventually deleted or retracted it. I'd guess they had been blinded by the Kennedy name, and his environmental work.

Which is about a year after he started Ring of Fire. Long, long before he had anything to do with Trump.

[AllyCat]

95. Ring of Fire

That show was on Air America and it was the first I had ever heard any of his work. He seemed kind of normal and I was concerned about the environment. So I listened. Then the anti-vax stuff started and I was done with him.

[annielion]

18. I agree. What happened to RFK Jr.?

He seemed to be an excellent environmental attorney when he was on Ring of Fire. He seems insane now. I'm glad to hear he's in trouble with so many people now. I want him gone from this Trump government.

[rubbersole]

20. I'd adjust my Saturday schedule to be able to listen to "Ring of Fire".

An occasional guest host was attorney John Morgan. (RFK Jr once characterized him as having 'more money than god'.) Morgan and Morgan is now the largest personal injury law firm in the United States. They gave "Bobby" a position in their Tampa office amid much advertising fanfare. Then nothing but crickets concerning his high profile presence. Buyers remorse 101.

[radical noodle]

32. He went off the rails long before he aligned with trump

This is one person that was already lost before trump came along.

[sop]

42. I agree. RFK Jr.'s anti-vaccine views were always pretty crazy, it just got worse after he sold his soul to Trump.

Pre-Trump he was just another anti-vaxxer crank with little to no power, coasting along making money off his Kennedy name, mostly ignored by the media and polite society. Now, as head of HHS with Trump's full backing, his statements and decisions affect the lives of millions of vulnerable Americans. Lord Acton was right: "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

[Botany]

45. Even before Trump RFK Jr. made millions in fees from a law firm that worked on suing vaccine and ..

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…. drug manufacturers. Too bad he didn’t get a “hot shot” of junk when he was using heroin.

[allegorical oracle]

46. He's 50 miles of bad road and in his dream job, now. Would take a front-end loader to

remove him. Probably arises from having famous relatives to whom he's been compared (and flunked). All he's ever had going for him is his last name.

[RockRaven]

58. Your order of events is way off. He didn't join Trump and get like this. Him being like this

was the screening criteria to get involved with Trump. He has been like this for a long fucking time. His antivax shit has ALWAYS been a lie and a grift, and he's been at it for decades.

[flamingdem]

84. He's a massive fake and a grifter

There's no other logic here.

[flamingdem]

85. RFK threw Trump's main accomplishment under the bus

Biden and Obama threw some flowers at Trump regarding the speed of the covid vaccine roll out. Of course they were trying to find silver linings to say something nice. Trump could have started much sooner.

Still, it's amazing that RFK is not throwing any flowers at his boss at all.

[JPK]

9. I think when RFK Jr. gets in to his office everyday

He sharpens pencils and checks how sharp he can make the tips.

[SheltieLover]

12. He must resign or be impeached RIGHT NOW!

[Dulcinea]

13. I wouldn't be surprised...

...if there was enough support on both sides of the aisle to get this nutcase impeached & removed from office.

[mwmisses4289]

15. That will just give trump the excuse to put

someone even nuttier in the job, especially since his only requirement is are you loyal to me and for women, at least, how closely do you resemble my favorite daughter.

[SheltieLover]

24. True, but at least it would disrupt rfk's shit show

[Wiz Imp]

34. I don't think it's possible to find someone worse than RFK Jr for HHS Secretary

[bedazzled]

59. This guy lapado in florida might do

He is certifiable

[Wiz Imp]

63. He's probably just as bad as RFK Jr but I don't think it's possible to be worse.

RFK Jr has absolutely zero knowledge about Science and Health but thinks he knows more than anyone else in the world. He has never cited a single TRUE piece of data. He lies about literally everything. He's been in the job for 8 months and cannot answer a single question accurately about anything related to the Department he leads other than the people he has fired. I would venture to guess that even most people who agree 100% with Kennedy's positions on everything would at least have some clue as to what was going on in their Department.

[bedazzled]

70. I dont know if junior believes in demon sperm

Or lizard people

Wouldn't surprise me though

[Wiz Imp]

72. RFK Jr has never publicly stated belief in either of those 2 things but he hasn't disavowed them either

From What I can tell, Ladapo hasn't stated belief in those things either, though he has made public appearances with the "demon sperm" doctor. Ladapo has also never endorsed some of RFK Jr's wackiest ideas such as HIV does not cause AIDS, 5G networks are for mass surveillance, Chemicals in water cause gender dysphoria & Bill Gates aims to create "a new feudalism" to profit from vaccines and control the food supply. They do seem to share the same views on vaccines and fluoride in the water among other things. Like i said, they're probably equally bad and it's insane that both of them have authority to influence anybody's health but their own.

[sop]

67. Dr. Joseph Ladapo, MD; Florida's Surgeon General, tenured professor at U.F. Medical School and a charlatan.

' 'Ladapo’s a charlatan’: Florida surgeon general’s tenure at UF is lackluster, colleagues say'

(Florida Alligator) "When Gov. Ron DeSantis hand-picked Joseph Ladapo as Florida’s surgeon general in September 2021, the role came with a second high-profile appointment: a tenured faculty position at UF...But Ladapo’s colleagues still aren’t sure what he does to earn his salary at the university. Some say not much."

"UF fast-tracked Ladapo into a $337,000-a-year contract as part of his role as the state’s top medical official, charging him with launching an internal medicine research program, taking on a part-time teaching role and leading an administrative team."

"A rising star among conservatives opposing pandemic-era safety measures, Ladapo dazzled UF’s top brass with his Ivy League credentials and multi-million dollar research portfolio. After reviewing his résumé, the medical school’s dean said he looked 'fabulous.' "

"Now, more than three years into his tenure, internal records and interviews with more than a dozen professors and administrators raise questions about whether Ladapo is meeting UF’s expectations."

"Ladapo’s work calendar shows monthslong stretches with little or no activity. Instead of attaining grants and conducting research, he spent his first year revising manuscripts and writing his memoir, 'Transcend Fear,' which details his skepticism of vaccines."

"He also promised to bring hundreds of thousands in research dollars from the University of California at Los Angeles, his previous employer. That never happened. He blamed his former boss, claiming she withheld the funds over disagreements about COVID-19 policies. A review of internal reports and public directories indicate Ladapo hasn't secured any research grants for UF."

"His classroom contributions are similarly sparse. Ladapo agreed to dedicate 20% of his time to teaching; so far, that’s amounted to a handful of seminars and guest lectures. A proposed course on 'critical evaluation of scientific evidence' has yet to materialize."

Continued at link:

https://www.alligator.org/article/2025/03/ladapo-s-a-charlatan-florida-surgeon-general-s-tenure-at-uf-is-lackluster-colleagues-say

[tishaLA]

76. Like FL's surgeon general

Compared to him, RFK Jr seems relatively normal

[malaise]

16. Which sane person

Puts a former addict to run healthcare

[rubbersole]

23. Oh, malaise! You said "sane"! 😅

Maybe early in tsf's first term. donnie wasn't going to make that mistake again.

[Ford_Prefect]

17. RFK jr. is a sociopath. He has the same empathy deficit as Trump and has no ability to discern truth from fiction.

He finds those fictions attractive because they reflect and reinforce his hateful view of humanity. He did not chose to be this way but he has no reason to believe otherwise because he cannot reason accurately, just like Trump. He is a cruel person without a conscience: ipso facto a sociopath.

[txwhitedove]

19. When asked if he knew how many people died from Covid, the back and forth got loud and

messy. He didn't know how many died, brought up Biden and seemed to be trying to blame any numbers, data, et al, on Biden. Note, they've been changing EVERYTHING, offices, people, systems, history, in the stupid idea that we've been lied to for years. This is all a horrific shit show.

[Redleg]

21. Perhaps they should have grilled him better during his confirmation hearing?

Or performed just a little bit of research on his stated positions about healthcare.

[Hope22]

30. I think people clearly knew he was unqualified..

…but the republicans voted for shit and that is just what we got! It was in their hands. End of story!

[Attilatheblond]

93. They were/are gutless wonders without the courage to tell Trump NO about anything.

[Hope22]

96. They pave our way into hell...

Whiteout looking back!

[Wiz Imp]

36. This is completely on Cassidy from Louisiana

As a doctor, he clearly knew RFK Jr was an unqualified nutcase . He could have voted No on him in the committee and that would have killed the nomination - it never would have reached the floor for a full Senate vote. But No, he put party over country and here we are today. Cassidy owns this catastrophe.

[SunSeeker]

50. THIS

[Attilatheblond]

97. He put HIS career as a congress cretin over the country

Can't help but wonder if he was a really bad doctor, you know, like Happy Pill Pushing Ronnie.

[mucifer]

60. Yeah let's blame the democrats

[Redleg]

61. Who is blaming the Democrats?

They were plenty critical of Kennedy during confirmation. They certainly showed more fire today.

[Submariner]

22. This is what happens when Quacks get in congress like

that incompetent ex-doctor Cassidy who probably killed a few in his practice, so having this junkie doing the job is A-okay with that ignorant swamp coon-ass.

[Karasu]

69. Fuck Bill Cassidy for all of this. He deserves no peace.

He has single-handedly spelled the end of the HHS and reliable health care information in this country.

[Botany]

26. RFK Jr. has made millions from spreading his anti vaccine and anti science propaganda much of which ..

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…. is Russian in origin in that Putin and his propaganda helpers spread in order to weaken America
from within.

[lostincalifornia]

40. Correction, "RFK Jr." not "JFK Jr"

[Botany]

48. Sorry

Botany =

[lostincalifornia]

49. no need for sorry. we all have typos

[turbinetree]

27. And that right wing senator from Kansas Rodger Marshall...........your a fucking idiot right along with

that idiot from HHS...............did both of you get your vaccines to go to school...............fucking yes or no............

I truly wish that a democrat senators would have asked two questions to that idiot.............

Did you get vaccines to go to school when you were a kid.................yes or no, did your parents make the right decision ............yes or no

And do you approve of what the head doctor in Florida is doing against kids..............health................

[Bengus81]

64. And..Roger Marshall is a Doctor and like others he goes for this BS.

There is a pretty big grass roots effort to get his ass out of there in 2028. Big job in Kansas,but he has the east side of the State with more Dems than Moran.

[Hekate]

31. NotRFK is a psychopath & sadist. He knows no shame, altho he does know irritation & rage...

He knows no pleasure that doesn’t harm others.

He has been informed of the facts. He. Does. Not. Care.

[Ritabert]

39. Just ask his cousin Caroline about him

[SunSeeker]

51. Yup. Caroline says he led his family to addiction; RFK Jr.'s brother died of an overdose.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/history/2025/01/29/caroline-rfk-jr-caused-family-addiction-david-died-palm-beach-florida/78023313007/

[Ritabert]

73. And his cousin Chris Lawford battled drug addiction

...but ultimately git clean and became a motivational speaker. Unfortunately he died a few years ago of a heart attack at age 63.

[dsc]

81. David had agency

RFKjr is a horror story but he isn't at fault for his brother taking drugs.

[SunSeeker]

88. RFK Jr has responsibility. RFK Jr. was a pusher, got his little brother David hooked.

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David looked up to RFK Jr., unfortunately, like little brothers tend to do. Not sure why you feel compelled to divert blame from RFK Jr., Caroline sure didn't.

RFK Jr. has stated that he became addicted to heroin when he was 15 years old, in 1969.  That same year, he got David into drugs. David was only 13.

[homegirl]

37. I accept the evil of

what I wish on RFK, Jr.

He is exposed to polio, contracts the disease and spends the following 30 ears of his life in an iron lung.*

* How many children have died from measles because of his damaging and irrational statements?

[Progressive dog]

38. I watched the first part until

I couldn't take the BS and stupidity anymore.
Trump is sure giving out retribution to everyone who opposes him. Scientists, statisticians, and anyone else who has real knowledge that contradicts whatever it is that goes on in his brain is a target. He chose another narcissistic crackpot to take care of those damn people who don't worship Trump.

[Mblaze]

44. I don't think that any of us know how many died of Covid

Because Republican states would not count those with terminal Covid if they had a preexisting condition.

[Nasruddin]

47. Sounds like classic gaslighting

[Nigrum Cattus]

57. They are in a cult -

Facts don't matter
This comes from "religious" beliefs.
They deny reality when it doesn't serve them
The repugs confirmed him

[SleeplessinSoCal]

62. Impeach while it's fresh in the minds of the sane.

[Martin68]

65. He is batshit crazy.

[Karasu]

66. I've been shouting at the top of my lungs since the day this fucking regime nominated him and have been closely

following everything he's done since.

It is a travesty that this country even fucking allows people without the necessary background and experience to be appointed to government positions, least of all public health-related positions.

That is, was, and always will be a recipe for disaster.

[applegrove]

68. Trump is the Heritage Foundations clown that allows

project 2025 policies to be implemented while the public watches the clown and goes SQUIRREL! RFK Jr. is Trump's clown. He allows the Heritage Foundation to practice eugenics while everyone stares at the BRAINWORM!

[thought crime]

71. RFK Jr. is also Trump's Trophy.

Trump owns a Kennedy and enjoys the spectacle of the Kennedy myth being undone.

[returnee]

75. What killed the people who died...

…who didn’t take the vaccine? There were a lot of them.

[a kennedy]

77. HE HAS TO GO!!!!!!

🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

[Evolve Dammit]

78. All Drump's nominees are combative, arrogant and ignorant. Blind loyalty only. And destroy agency they "lead."

[D00ver66]

79. Rfk

Yes a horrible time for him and our country and yet republicans will continue to allow this clown to have a job. Time for impeachment.

[LilElf70]

82. This was a new low

for politics, and particularly the Trump's administration. How anyone can hire and then admire a moron like RFK, for such an important position, is way beyond me. Afterwards, Trump thought he did a great job. Really? How can anyone watch that and consider it great? I can't believe I am witnessing this shit show. Embarrassing!!!

[Aussie105]

86. What is it about Trump

that attracts the insane, the morally bankrupt, the charlatans, the haters of America?

What is it about Trump that makes him appoint people like that to positions that are way beyond their skill set which makes them likely to stuff up big time?

On second thought, never mind, they are rhetorical questions.
(Nutters band together and seek validation from each other.)

[soldierant]

87. I only watched Senator Wyden's introductory remarks.

And Senator Crapo* refusing his request and why.

Everything after that was going to be lies so why bother.

*And if ever a name was appropriate....

[cab67]

90. It had to be seen to be believed.

[spanone]

91. He is the epitome of the ignorant, hateful trmp administration.

The world is shaking it's collective head.