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Celerity

(51,734 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:20 AM Yesterday

Mamdani, AOC and other DSA members should leave party: Dem Rep. Tom Suozzi insists

Full interview with Congressman Tom Suozzi | The Point 8.31.25



https://www.aol.com/mamdani-aoc-other-dsa-members-203918818.html

Democratic Socialist of America members — including New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez — should leave the Democratic Party and create their own, Rep. Tom Suozzi said.

“Zohran Mamdani and other Democratic Socialists should create their own party because I don’t want that in my party,” Suozzi, a Democrat, said of the far left policies on CBS New York’s “The Point” show with Marcia Kramer that aired Sunday.

Suozzi — whose third congressional district includes parts of Queens as well as Long Island — also said he hopes “he [Mamdani] doesn’t win” the mayoralty because “it will be bad for the Democratic Party.”

And he said House Democratic Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries should not endorse Mamdani, the party’s nominee for City Hall, because it will “be bad for the Democratic Party nationwide.” Suozzi endorsed Andrew Cuomo in the June Democratic primary — but Mamdani handily defeated the former governor to cinch the party’s nomination.

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Mamdani, AOC and other DSA members should leave party: Dem Rep. Tom Suozzi insists (Original Post) Celerity Yesterday OP
What a perfect example of Democrats eating their own. gab13by13 Yesterday #1
It's not up to what HE wants. It's whatever the PEOPLE want! nt woodsprite Yesterday #2
He is welcome to leave the democratic party, too MaineBlueBear Yesterday #3
Could he be any more out of touch? Arazi Yesterday #4
Suozzi currently holds the seat held by con artist and current resident of federal prison Prairie Gates Yesterday #5
Profound misuse of the 'Let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good here.' axiom. Celerity Yesterday #16
Hmmm Prairie Gates Yesterday #18
There is a large difference between disagreement philosophically versus telling fellow Democrats to leave the party. Celerity Yesterday #21
We've both made our positions clear Prairie Gates Yesterday #22
Performative Centrist Alert! Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #6
So is he in the Epstein files? Blue Full Moon Yesterday #7
Pro Israel centrist Tom Suozzi needs to shut up! Emile Yesterday #8
Perhaps its AIPAC that wants Mamdani and progressives to leave... AloeVera Yesterday #31
If you want purity tests, become a Republican. SSJVegeta Yesterday #9
He needs to be primaried from the left. Intractable Yesterday #10
He needs to be primaried period. carpetbagger Yesterday #15
+1 Emile Yesterday #24
No, they shouldn't LeftInTX Yesterday #11
Are Loylalty Oath signatures obligatory to be a Democrat? Somebody should inform Suozzi thatthis is a de,pcracy Ping Tung Yesterday #12
He sounds like a guy Bettie Yesterday #13
Mamdani and AOC represent my values. And I'm a Democrat. So fuck you Suozzi. Your stance Nanjeanne Yesterday #14
If the GOP can have people from J6, the KKK and the Nazi's then we can have socialists. flying_wahini Yesterday #17
Some Democrats dont want to win Johonny Yesterday #19
We're lucky to have his seat at all, it's a district Trump carried in 2024. tritsofme Yesterday #20
If he keeps up with the pro Israel stuff womanofthehills Yesterday #23
Tom Suozzi should go fuck himself. Cuthbert Allgood Yesterday #25
Shrink the tent! bucolic_frolic Yesterday #26
As a yellow-dog Democrat, they represent my values. This is the 21st century. walkingman Yesterday #27
For all practical purposes, Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a Democratic Socialist. no_hypocrisy Yesterday #28
As was MLK, Helen Keller, David Ben Gurion, Nelson Mandela, Tommy Douglas, Albert Einstein, George Orwell, Thomas Paine, Nanjeanne Yesterday #30
So-called Centrists have controlled the party fior the last 30+ years . . . markpkessinger Yesterday #29
New York City not a liberal enclave Keepthesoulalive Yesterday #32
OR Cuthbert Allgood Yesterday #33
I don't have a problem with that Keepthesoulalive 23 hrs ago #34

MaineBlueBear

(262 posts)
3. He is welcome to leave the democratic party, too
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:29 AM
Yesterday

I formally invite him to offer progress or get out of the way.

Arazi

(8,332 posts)
4. Could he be any more out of touch?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:40 AM
Yesterday

He’s not the oldest Dem in Congress but he’s definitely one whose demonstrating how insulated many Dems are from the current mood on the street.

Prairie Gates

(6,096 posts)
5. Suozzi currently holds the seat held by con artist and current resident of federal prison
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:44 AM
Yesterday

George Santos.

The portion of his district that is in New York City is not going to vote for Mamdani anyway (Douglaston, Bayside/Bay Terrace, Whitestone), and may not even go for Cuomo. Some of those idiotic Whitestone districts will probably vote for Sliwa. The Long Island/ Nassau County parts of his district (obviously not relevant to the Mayor's race) are also fairly conservative nowadays, so Suozzi will likely have a bit of a slugfest in 2026.

In other words, it makes no difference if he says this, and it's probably a net gain for 2026. It's not going to hurt Mamdani at all, since he will lose those areas anyway. I liken this to letting a vulnerable member vote against a bill if you already have the votes elsewhere. It's not a great look, but it's also not particularly damaging.

All House seats are local. Let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good here.

Celerity

(51,734 posts)
16. Profound misuse of the 'Let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good here.' axiom.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:31 PM
Yesterday

Suozzi is literally calling for AOC and others to leave the Democratic Party.

Not only is that a hardcore 'purity test' but it would be ruinous for our Party if adopted as SOP.

Start demanding (from a leadership level) elected Dems (of the typology who centrists to conservative Dems like Problem Solver Suozzi and others happen to disagree with) leave (or worse, be tossed out of) the Democratic Party and watch our national vote tallies plummet, especially with the under 45yo younger cohorts.

Prairie Gates

(6,096 posts)
18. Hmmm
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:32 PM
Yesterday

I like you, but we're going to disagree on this. He has to hold NY3. If you'd ever walked a precinct in Bayside, you'd know this is the route to that. I think it has zero national effect at all.

Celerity

(51,734 posts)
21. There is a large difference between disagreement philosophically versus telling fellow Democrats to leave the party.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 02:00 PM
Yesterday

Talk about big tent party coalition sabotage. It's Democrtic Party voter suppression writ large.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,605 posts)
6. Performative Centrist Alert!
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:47 AM
Yesterday

Suozzi is co-chair of the Problem Solvers caucus, who sabotaged Biden’s BBB.

From Wikipedia:

In 2021, the Campaign Legal Center filed an ethics complaint against him, alleging he failed to report nearly 300 stock transactions worth between $3.2 million and $11 million, as required by the STOCK Act.[58][59] During a congressional deposition, Suozzi defended the omissions, stating, "ethics is a big priority for me, but some of the formalities are not necessarily something I make a priority of."[60] In July 2022, the House Ethics Committee ruled his violations were not "knowing or willful" and dismissed the case.[61]

carpetbagger

(5,353 posts)
15. He needs to be primaried period.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:23 PM
Yesterday

I think the progressive wing has more viable answers right now, but a loyal centrist would be a warning flare to New York Democrats of limited loyalty and a good step towards having a party ready to lead when we get the chance.

Ping Tung

(3,501 posts)
12. Are Loylalty Oath signatures obligatory to be a Democrat? Somebody should inform Suozzi thatthis is a de,pcracy
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:57 AM
Yesterday

I've been a registered Democrat since 1965 and and a Socialist since about 1961 and I still believe that how I vote is up to me.

Nanjeanne

(6,402 posts)
14. Mamdani and AOC represent my values. And I'm a Democrat. So fuck you Suozzi. Your stance
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:15 PM
Yesterday

on transgender rights, your op Ed about Dem should work with Trump, your involvement with “problem solvers” caucus, siding with Rs on the Laken Riley bill, your opposition to NY redistributing in response to Rs plan, your cesure of Al Green and more make me wish you would choose to leave the D party. But people elected you just as people elected AOC and Mamdani - so STFU.

flying_wahini

(8,176 posts)
17. If the GOP can have people from J6, the KKK and the Nazi's then we can have socialists.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:43 PM
Yesterday

Go fuck yourself

Johonny

(24,483 posts)
19. Some Democrats dont want to win
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:41 PM
Yesterday

PS Trump is the most socialist president we've had. Indeed, he is starting to resemble Stalinist Russia. Pray he doesn't start coming up with 5 year plans . . .

OMG a city run grocery store, versus the US government buying up Intel, or dictating what is acceptable to private universities, law firms, media outlets, corporations. . . What type of socialism do you want?

tritsofme

(19,488 posts)
20. We're lucky to have his seat at all, it's a district Trump carried in 2024.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:57 PM
Yesterday

One of the very few that also sent a Democrat to the House.

no_hypocrisy

(52,913 posts)
28. For all practical purposes, Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a Democratic Socialist.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:16 PM
Yesterday

And I liked how the country turned out because of his policies.

Nanjeanne

(6,402 posts)
30. As was MLK, Helen Keller, David Ben Gurion, Nelson Mandela, Tommy Douglas, Albert Einstein, George Orwell, Thomas Paine,
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:25 PM
Yesterday

Margaret Sanger, Eugene Debs and more...

markpkessinger

(8,843 posts)
29. So-called Centrists have controlled the party fior the last 30+ years . . .
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:21 PM
Yesterday

. . . and what do they have to show for it?

They are the most stunningly entitled bunch I've ever seen, who seem to think their own very failure is what entitles them to continue to run the show! Fuck that!

Keepthesoulalive

(1,714 posts)
32. New York City not a liberal enclave
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:31 PM
Yesterday

It is a city of neighborhoods and many are conservative neighborhoods. A loud mouthed jerk makes a statement for attention and street creds and people on DU go nuts. Attacking democrats who have nothing to do with the city as centrist and non progressive is counterproductive. Let’s leave the little man in the gutter where he belongs. We have got to fight to take our country back ,not get involved with city politics.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,317 posts)
33. OR
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:57 PM
Yesterday

we can talk about how fucking stupid his ideas are. I don't live in NYC and don't give a shit about who he represents. I hope they like him. But when he starts talking about the party as a whole and what should be done, the party as a whole as the obligation to point, laugh, and tell him he's dumb.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,714 posts)
34. I don't have a problem with that
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:00 PM
23 hrs ago

He should be mocked and shamed but don’t tar the Democratic Party. He won his district and that’s all. The conversation devolved into centrist Democrats and getting rid of the old guard because they won’t let the progressives through. This is a New York problem, let them work it out.

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