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Miles Archer

(20,158 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:45 AM Thursday

There's ONE TINY LITTLE FLAW in "Epstein Survivor" Jena-Lisa Jones' "plea to Trump." Just a little one.

"ON PAPER," yeah. Trump IS "a father." He's also the same father who went on Howard Stern's show and called his daughter Ivanka "a piece of ass" ( Donald Trump to Howard Stern: It’s okay to call my daughter a ‘piece of ass’ ), and who went on national TV and said he'd probably "date" Ivanka if she weren't his own daughter...and Stormy Daniels definitively defined how TRUMP defines a "date." ( Trump’s lewd talk about daughter Ivanka in front of White House staff recalled in new book )

So MAYBE she's making a "Dad Appeal" to THE WRONG DAD.

Betrayed Epstein Victim Says She Voted for Trump Because She Trusted Him ‘to Protect Us’

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-voting-epstein-survivor-jena-lisa-jones-brutally-calls-out-president-imagine-it-was-your-daughter/

Jones became tearful when O’Donnell said she and her fellow survivors were “believed”—although the host added that President Trump doesn’t believe them.

Jones responded on MSNBC. “I voted for him. I voted for Trump. And for him to say what he’s saying is beyond me, because I put my hope in him and he’s supposed to protect us,” she said.

“For him to say that this is a joke and that it’s sides, this is not sides. We will say it time and time again, none of us are up there accusing him of anything. There is no one that is accusing him of any wrongdoing, so the fact that he’s saying it’s a hoax, who are you hiding for then? Because if it’s not you, then who is it? And that scares me, who is it.”

You have daughters. You know what it is like to raise children and to be a parent. Outside of all this hoopla that you’re the president or you’re Donald J. Trump and you have your Trump stuff, you know what it is to be a parent. You know that. Could you imagine if that was your daughter that was trafficked to people? Could you imagine your 14-year-old daughter having to go through what we had to go through?” she said.
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There's ONE TINY LITTLE FLAW in "Epstein Survivor" Jena-Lisa Jones' "plea to Trump." Just a little one. (Original Post) Miles Archer Thursday OP
Maybe his fourteen-year-old daughter did have to go through some of those things... Ocelot II Thursday #1
That has been rumor and speculation for years, mwmisses4289 Thursday #10
She sounded like she didn't really know Trump. Kid Berwyn Thursday #2
On a NUMBER of levels Miles Archer Thursday #3
Not likely that he understands anything... PCIntern Thursday #4
Not to mention, the alternative was Harris, who had been CA AG and a prosecutor karynnj Thursday #5
I saw the interview and I am of 2 minds on this Raven123 Thursday #6
I witnessed the consequences of inappropriate comments about a daughter EYESORE 9001 Thursday #7
Trump didn't raise his children Johnny2X2X Thursday #8
THIS! lastlib Thursday #9
Didn't he get custody of them after he divorced Ivana? mwmisses4289 Thursday #11

mwmisses4289

(2,093 posts)
10. That has been rumor and speculation for years,
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 02:36 PM
Thursday

based on a lot of the pics of him and daughter number one that are out there.

Kid Berwyn

(21,907 posts)
2. She sounded like she didn't really know Trump.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:49 AM
Thursday


Once she learns more, she'll better describe the perverted NAZI.

Miles Archer

(20,158 posts)
3. On a NUMBER of levels
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:53 AM
Thursday

If you completely remove the sex component from this, she:

1). Thought he'd care about her problem
2). Thought he'd care enough to help her

Both complete falsehoods that she probably understands now.

PCIntern

(27,585 posts)
4. Not likely that he understands anything...
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:01 AM
Thursday

You are describing rational thought to a psychopath/sociopath. You might well have the same discussion with Charles Manson, with the same result.

karynnj

(60,516 posts)
5. Not to mention, the alternative was Harris, who had been CA AG and a prosecutor
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:02 AM
Thursday

with way more reasons to believe she would act.

Raven123

(7,000 posts)
6. I saw the interview and I am of 2 minds on this
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:03 AM
Thursday

First, I cannot imagine someone with her experiences voting for a candidate who was recorded saying powerful people can do what they want, specifically grabbing women.


Second, is it possible that she was so desperate for the justice that has been denied that she grasped at the one chance (as she perceived it) to start that process by releasing the Epstein files as Trump and his campaign said he would do? I don’t know.

Nothing about voting for a known abuser makes sense to me, but I am in a much different place.

EYESORE 9001

(28,954 posts)
7. I witnessed the consequences of inappropriate comments about a daughter
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:04 AM
Thursday

Guy didn’t know the woman about whom he was running his mouth was the daughter of another guy within earshot. I felt twinges of ‘sympathy’ pains in my groin as I anticipated the ass-beating headed his way. Recalling a line from Raging Bull, ‘he ain’t pretty no more.’ When I heard that Stern interview, I remembered that Stern broached the ‘piece of ass’ phrase first, and that’s when I expected rump to go ballistic - as any normal father would do. This is one thing that I would defend to the extent of violence if necessary. Knowing what I do about the gelatinous reprobate now, it didn’t come as much of a surprise when he agreed wholeheartedly with what Stern had said.

Rump said things I would expect from a pimp - not a father. Elaborating further, it became obvious to me that TSF had devoted a great deal of time contemplating his daughter’s anatomy.

Johnny2X2X

(23,291 posts)
8. Trump didn't raise his children
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:08 AM
Thursday

Hell, he barely even knew them when they were growing up. And Ivanka was likely trafficked by him.

lastlib

(26,637 posts)
9. THIS!
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:19 AM
Thursday

He was too busy being a playboy predator/rapist/financial "jeenyus" to actually do any parenting. (Which, all things considered, might've been a good thing--if he had acted as a parent, the spawn would've turned out to be even more like mobsters than they did.)

mwmisses4289

(2,093 posts)
11. Didn't he get custody of them after he divorced Ivana?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 02:46 PM
Thursday

He probably shuffled off the main responsibility for them onto nannies, tutors and boarding schools.

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