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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(128,143 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:05 PM Wednesday

Epstein survivor: 'We'll compile our own list and seek justice'

Victims of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein said Tuesday they are working together to compile a list of powerful figures connected to the disgraced financier after growing frustrated with the government’s handling of the case.

“A lot of us survivors know we’ve been compiling lists of our own, and we have so many other survivors,” Epstein accuser Lisa Phillips told NBC News in an interview. “Please come forward, and we’ll compile our own list and seek justice on our own.”

“I mean, I think that’s what’s going to happen next,” the former aspiring model added.

Epstein, who ran in elite social circles before he was accused of sex trafficking minors, died by suicide in a federal jail in 2019 amid intense interest in the case. The Justice Department has maintained that he didn’t keep a client list of others involved in his crimes.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/epstein-survivor-ll-compile-own-141457532.html

But that's hostile - Donny Dipshit

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blm

(114,298 posts)
2. This particular group of survivors was handpicked by Trump's protection goons
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:46 PM
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Last edited Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:40 PM - Edit history (1)

and limited to those who had no interaction with Trump - this is my gut feeling since I first heard there would be a press conference. Haven’t Dems learned anything from the ‘Trump taxes leaked’ operation from 2016?

blm

(114,298 posts)
9. My gut feeling, I shouldn't have left that out
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:43 PM
Wednesday

so, I edited my post.

My gut feelings about their stagecrafting are rarely wrong.

Chasstev365

(6,139 posts)
13. You could be right; I just didn't if there was reporting to that effect.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:08 PM
Wednesday

I wouldn't put anything past this criminal cabal.

Vinca

(52,627 posts)
3. I've been trying to remember who the young woman was who sued Trump before his first reign of terror
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:49 PM
Wednesday

and then abruptly withdrew the case. It was around the time of the Stormy pay off. I assumed she had been paid to shut up and probably signed an NDA. It's clear, just by the way Trump is acting, he's guilty as hell.

AZJonnie

(1,273 posts)
6. If you really dig into it, that 'case' was unbelievably sketchy and more likely a hoax than not
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:00 PM
Wednesday

Much as people wish it were otherwise, none of the known victims have ever accused Trump of wrongdoing, or even having been 'around while things were happening'

That said, I'm pretty confident Trump knew exactly what Epstein was up to, and said nothing. Thus, I suspect Trump is worried about being exposed for 'knowing' as opposed to 'doing'. Or maybe he was given some illegal videos?

Iwasthere

(3,397 posts)
7. Do you really believe he was not "doing"?
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:14 PM
Wednesday

Or perhaps that he was simply given "illegal videos"? So where do you do your digging? Read the complaints and the court cases again. Why do you think she dropped those cases? Horrific abuse!
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3130729-DOE-V-TRUMP/

link:Woman suing Trump over alleged teen rape drops suit, again -
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AZJonnie

(1,273 posts)
8. None of the known Epstein victims has ever accused IQ47 of wrongdoing
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:38 PM
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I invite you to find me any instance of that happening. In fact, none of the known victims apart from Giuffre have ever accused ANYONE of directly participating in Epstein/Maxwell's abuse apart from those two themselves. And they again did NOT do so today, not even namelessly e.g. just saying 'that happened to us'. They say there are enablers and people who protected the two, but not direct abusers. That's all they've ever said, again, apart from Guiffre ... who explicitly and under oath said she never saw Trump, nor talked to any other girl who did around that time

AFA the 13 year old's case ... please read this and you'll understand why I think it's more likely a hoax than not.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

We know Epstein had a bunch of cameras and illegal videos. So if Trump received a video of a minor being sexually abused by Epstein (or anyone else), that is an actual crime if it could be proven, so he could be worried about that. And yes I think it's more likely that if Trump was 'doing', one of the victims he 'did it with' would've said something, long before now.

Iwasthere

(3,397 posts)
11. So you believe he never acted on his impulses
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:58 PM
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He bragged about going into teen parents dressing rooms. He bragged that he could "grab em by the pussy". He publically admired very young girls, and stated to Howard Stern his limit was 12 year olds. Imo you should dig a little deeper. One of the girls today said the two of them were very close, that epstein bragged often about their long friendship. It's not rocket science. One, or more of the girls knows. It will come out. Why do you think bondi had 1000 agents combing the files for trump's name? Have you seen the pics of bondi with him when she was a teen?

AZJonnie

(1,273 posts)
14. Never did I use the words "I don't think (or know) he did not", and I was careful to say exactly what I meant
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:14 PM
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Which is what I think is 'more likely based on facts currently in evidence'. That's not the same as having made up my mind/knowing. Hell, I'd bet Trump was sniffing Ivanka's panties when she was 12, I mean I put absolutely NOTHING past the guy, please don't take me wrong on this!

However, he didn't brag about going into teens dressing rooms, and I've never heard he said '12 was his limit' to Stern, can you post a link to that? The rest is circumstantial stuff. And believe me, I've done PLENTY of digging, that's why I knew of that Vox article to link you to.

I think he's 'acting guilty' as well, but that to me does not indicate he r***d any children. He knows he was friends with the two of the known pedos, there's dozens of pics of them together, thus, he knows his association with him is a bad look. I also think it's VERY likely that there's ample evidence in the files that Trump knew what Epstein was up to, and not only didn't report him, but probably even expressed approval and/or admiration. THAT being released would be devastating to him. And I wouldn't be shocked at all if Epstein gave him vids of his naked, underage victims, also a crime.

In short, there's plenty of reasons he could want the whole story to 'go away' without his actually having 'partook'.

Or, maybe he molested some kids with his buddy. But the facts I mentioned previously remain. We have no real evidence of it, and in fact, we have an absence of it, because about 15 girls have some forward in some fashion, and none have ever accused him of jack. Not even Giuffre, who is the one victim who has put the finger on other perps apart from JE/GM, LOTS of them, plenty of them just as powerful as Trump at the time (her testimony to this effect was before IQ45 was nominated).

misanthrope

(9,101 posts)
15. Trump's own behavior is what speaks to his guilt
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:31 PM
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Guilty of what precisely? We don't know, but he sure does. That is why he has been in visible panic mode since the early summer.

AZJonnie

(1,273 posts)
17. No argument on that point whatsoever!
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:29 PM
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I think the highest probability is that he knows he said some things, either on video, or in letters, that suggest without a doubt that he knew exactly what Epstein was up to, and very possibly expressing approval, along the lines of the birthday card/drawing exposed by the WSJ recently.

That's not to outright dismiss the possibility he 'partook', but I think it's likely at least 1 victim would've mentioned it by now, so I consider that the less likely of the two main options.

madville

(7,827 posts)
10. Yet no list ever gets released
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:09 PM
Wednesday

We’re on like season 11 of “We’re releasing the list soon”.

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