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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(11,023 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:18 AM Wednesday

Ding dong ditch shooter waited for the kids to return

https://www.fox26houston.com/news/ding-dong-ditch-shooting-suspect-waited-children-return-charges-be-upgraded


Waiting in the dark
What they're saying:
Authorities say Gonzalo Leon Jr. was waiting by his home in the dark late Saturday night when 11-year-old Jullian Guzman and his cousin knocked on his door for the last time. The kids had knocked on the door multiple times, running away each time, and in their final attempt, investigators allege Leon opened fire, striking Guzman in the back as he ran.

Records say Guzman's cousin recalls seeing Leon come out from a gate by the house and step out to the street before he began shooting. They say Leon shot once at the ground before firing another shot at the boys.

"This was someone brutally murdering an 11-year-old simply because they were mad," said Teare. "We have a little boy who didn’t even have a chance to get his life going yet, struck down for nothing."

Guzman and his cousin ran about a block away before Guzman collapsed, according to records. They say his cousin tried to drag him to safety, but Guzman later died at the hospital.

Records say investigators recovered more than 20 firearms from Leon’s home, including rifles, long guns and handguns. Teare says they believe a medium-caliber handgun was used in the shooting.
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Ding dong ditch shooter waited for the kids to return (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Wednesday OP
Why didn't he just come out of his house and yell at them or heck even brandish a firearm? LeftInTX Wednesday #1
Brandishing is illegal in many states Kaleva Wednesday #3
Well, no one would have died. Wouldn't yelling be an option? LeftInTX Wednesday #15
Yelling often works! Kaleva Wednesday #21
They reach you in CCW class DenaliDemocrat Wednesday #5
Yes, but brandishing would have been much preferable to killing the kid Mysterian Wednesday #30
We had an inground pool at our house in Akron (pretty rare thing in those days). And kids would sometimes jump the ... marble falls Wednesday #26
He had 20 firearms in his house . . . . SarcasticSatyr Wednesday #2
seems like really, really stupid pranks with so many gun humping cowards around Skittles Wednesday #4
So it was premeditated. He was lying in wait. And he knew they were just ding dong ditchers ms liberty Wednesday #6
Worse..he laid eyes on them before he fired the gun..knew they were very young BlueWaveNeverEnd Wednesday #7
And he wasn't frightened. yardwork Wednesday #27
An important point. ms liberty Wednesday #33
Post removed Post removed Wednesday #8
You're okay with killing someone for ringing a doorbell and running away? DemocratSinceBirth Wednesday #10
i am not ok with children running unsupervised. rampartd Wednesday #12
Then call the police. DemocratSinceBirth Wednesday #13
Shooting the kids makes up for poor supervision? The death penalty for being kids? marble falls Wednesday #14
How about women who wear revealing clothing? Heidi Wednesday #16
GOOD QUESTION! marble falls Wednesday #22
They should not be MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD for it. How utterly niyad Wednesday #28
Well? How about an answer? Heidi Wednesday #29
Any defense of this monster, any attempt to in any way justify or excuse niyad Wednesday #31
Cause nothing says justice like shooting a retreating kid in the back from an ambush? ... marble falls Wednesday #11
He gave an eleven year-old kid the death penalty. Aristus Wednesday #9
dude needs to be locked up pimpbot Wednesday #17
This right here. Some of the dumb things we all did as kids pinkstarburst Wednesday #19
This is not new, we did this as children no internet MagickMuffin Wednesday #32
I never did anything like that, did not tp or egg houses, make stupid niyad Wednesday #34
If he was waiting, that's premeditated murder. sakabatou Wednesday #18
A lot of gun people want a chance to use it JI7 Wednesday #20
And too many will find that chance, sadly. Heidi Wednesday #23
"including police", and how. marble falls Wednesday #25
Why I no longer own handguns. I would make a terrible mistake, allowing things to escalate knowing I had an equalizer. marble falls Wednesday #24

LeftInTX

(33,537 posts)
1. Why didn't he just come out of his house and yell at them or heck even brandish a firearm?
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:42 AM
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He could have called the cops on them, but I doubt if the cops would have shown up.

However, they probably would have gone elsewhere if he intimidated them.

Kaleva

(39,822 posts)
3. Brandishing is illegal in many states
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:09 AM
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And one shouldn’t have a gun in hand unless you intend to shoot someone .

DenaliDemocrat

(1,673 posts)
5. They reach you in CCW class
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:02 AM
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There is no “brandishing” or “warning shots” per the law. The assumption is if you draw your weapon - you intend to use it. If you fire it - you intend to kill.

Mysterian

(5,889 posts)
30. Yes, but brandishing would have been much preferable to killing the kid
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:40 PM
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I think that was the point.

marble falls

(67,909 posts)
26. We had an inground pool at our house in Akron (pretty rare thing in those days). And kids would sometimes jump the ...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:06 PM
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... on the days the public pool was closed or after hours. One evening my dad jumped out the back door with a wall hanger shotgun and a lit cherry bomb and we never ever had to chase them out again.

ms liberty

(10,514 posts)
6. So it was premeditated. He was lying in wait. And he knew they were just ding dong ditchers
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:10 AM
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Since it had already happened multiple times earlier in the evening.
Cold blooded, first degree murder. He had time to think about it.

Response to BlueWaveNeverEnd (Original post)

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,169 posts)
13. Then call the police.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:03 AM
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Killing someone for ringing your doorbell and running away doesn't seem prudent or legal, does it?

Heidi

(58,615 posts)
16. How about women who wear revealing clothing?
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:39 AM
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Are you also opposed to that for safety reasons?

niyad

(126,708 posts)
28. They should not be MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD for it. How utterly
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:10 PM
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abominable, and disappointing.

niyad

(126,708 posts)
31. Any defense of this monster, any attempt to in any way justify or excuse
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:49 PM
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his cold-blooded, premediated murder of a child, is not something I would have ever thought that I would see on DU. It is, needless to say, highly disappointing.

marble falls

(67,909 posts)
11. Cause nothing says justice like shooting a retreating kid in the back from an ambush? ...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:52 AM
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... 20 plus firearms, but no Ring, no automatic lights?

Aristus

(70,714 posts)
9. He gave an eleven year-old kid the death penalty.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:51 AM
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This is Texas, so he will likely get it in return. I’m sure his defense lawyer will try to pack the jury with gunfucks.

pimpbot

(1,115 posts)
17. dude needs to be locked up
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:41 AM
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Unfortunately those kids FAFO'd. I'm assuming this is some type of social media prank thing? Social media will be seen as one of the major contributors to the downfall of society as we know it.

As a kid, I played pranks on my friends and other kids we knew. If you messed up and did it to the wrong kid, you got your butt beat. We never messed around with random people's stuff, definitely not adults. I also wasn't running around at night unless it was in our yard or a friend's yard.

Even now as an adult I evaluate my potential interactions with strangers because half of them have a screw loose and some percentage of that group is also packing heat.

pinkstarburst

(1,803 posts)
19. This right here. Some of the dumb things we all did as kids
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:52 AM
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are no longer safe in 2025. Running around at 11:00 at night banging and kicking on doors of random people you don't know in the dark is a really bad idea and parents need to be having these serious conversations with kids--that just because you see it on TikTok doesn't mean it's a funny prank you should go out and try. You never know who is going to be on the other side of that door, like a guy with 20 guns and you bang and kick his door one too many times late at night, and he's going to snap and you could end up dead.

Tragic.

MagickMuffin

(17,880 posts)
32. This is not new, we did this as children no internet
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:11 PM
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No social media. Hell we didn’t even have cable tv and channel surfing was very limited.

So, no, social media has nothing to do with ding dong ditching. However, I would never attempt that today if I was a kid. Just reading NextDoor tells one a lot about their neighbors. A lot of comments about just seeing a stranger (to them) walking down the street and mentioning that they’ll grab their guns. I got banned from there because I didn’t reveal my true identity. I can’t even view anything there but I’m almost certain nothing there has changed.

There is another name that is extremely racist name for ding dong ditching, which here in Texas is an acceptable phrase to use.




niyad

(126,708 posts)
34. I never did anything like that, did not tp or egg houses, make stupid
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:04 PM
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phone calls. .or any of the other pranks so many apparently pulled. Not virtuous, just studious.

marble falls

(67,909 posts)
24. Why I no longer own handguns. I would make a terrible mistake, allowing things to escalate knowing I had an equalizer.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:58 AM
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