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Chasstev365

(6,306 posts)
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:48 PM Sep 2

A red flag in something JB Pritzker said:

Pritzker:

"We have reason to believe that the Trump administration has already begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois," Pritzker said."

How can unrequested National Guard troops being from one state to another by a president possibly legal?

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A red flag in something JB Pritzker said: (Original Post) Chasstev365 Sep 2 OP
We know Texan males tend to wear big hats to compensate for ____________. Irish_Dem Sep 2 #1
Beers, Steers & Queers ZDU Sep 2 #2
Reason everything is bigger in texass! mwmisses4289 Sep 2 #3
When did legality have anything to do with Trump or the National Guard? RockRaven Sep 2 #4
A plot requires plotting. No red flag, TACO is not ad libbing regardless how stupid, illegal, unconstitutional ... marble falls Sep 2 #5
Invasion should be met with deadly force. TommyT139 Sep 2 #6
That would be an invasion Arazi Sep 2 #7
Malcolm Nance said stop comparing this to the rise of the Nazis. Start comparing it to the occupation Scrivener7 Sep 2 #8
Blockade the bridges over the Mississippi and Ohio rivers. roamer65 Sep 2 #9
Oh, that's good! Chasstev365 Sep 2 #10
Having Ben in the Texas National Guard many years ago, I've never heard of such... ashredux Sep 2 #11
Isn't Texas more Democrat? KentuckyWoman Sep 2 #12
No. LeftInTX Sep 2 #23
Governors from multiple states sent NG to DC. Frasier Balzov Sep 2 #13
DC is a Federal district. Illinois is a sovereign state. CanonRay Sep 2 #14
If Texas invades Illinois Frasier Balzov Sep 2 #15
I could see Pritzker blockading the bridges CanonRay Sep 2 #17
I think that legally it's Congress that needs to request a deployment in DC AdamGG Sep 2 #16
Under the Home Rule Act James48 Sep 2 #19
Trump is pushing for a red state to invade a blue state. hadEnuf Sep 2 #18
I don't think National Gaurd Troops serving in other sates is unprecidented. Gore1FL Sep 2 #20
Doesn't the governor request them though? LeftInTX Sep 2 #24
FWIW: A spokesperson for Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said that Texas "is not preparing to deploy troops to Illinois," ... mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2 #21
I have more faith in Pritzker misanthrope Sep 2 #22

RockRaven

(18,039 posts)
4. When did legality have anything to do with Trump or the National Guard?
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:05 PM
Sep 2

Laws are tools for the powerful to use to hurt powerless, not to be bound by themselves.

marble falls

(68,668 posts)
5. A plot requires plotting. No red flag, TACO is not ad libbing regardless how stupid, illegal, unconstitutional ...
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:11 PM
Sep 2

... his plots and plottings are.

Arazi

(8,382 posts)
7. That would be an invasion
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:30 PM
Sep 2

And every Dem should phrase it like that.

“Illinois has been invaded by Texas armed forces”

Scrivener7

(57,258 posts)
8. Malcolm Nance said stop comparing this to the rise of the Nazis. Start comparing it to the occupation
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:49 PM
Sep 2

of New York in 1775 when suddenly residents were forced to put British soldiers up in their homes, and the soldiers were everywhere on the streets preparing to fight the residents. And then they did.

We should compare it to that because we're close to that.

roamer65

(37,790 posts)
9. Blockade the bridges over the Mississippi and Ohio rivers.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:54 PM
Sep 2

That will help prevent heavy equipment from entry into Illinois.

KentuckyWoman

(7,287 posts)
12. Isn't Texas more Democrat?
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:12 PM
Sep 2

Isn't that why they have to rig the vote? Fair maps would sink the Repyblicans in Texas. Well, most states.

Frasier Balzov

(4,556 posts)
13. Governors from multiple states sent NG to DC.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:15 PM
Sep 2

Is a Presidential activation even being used in the case of Illinois?

It could just be an unlawful invasion by Trump-friendly states.

With the federal government being the only authority with the power to stop it.

Which it won't.

Frasier Balzov

(4,556 posts)
15. If Texas invades Illinois
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:50 PM
Sep 2

does Illinois shoot at them?

I think not.

And if Trump hasn't formally activated anyone, is he in violation of the Court's ruling In Re Los Angeles?

AdamGG

(1,788 posts)
16. I think that legally it's Congress that needs to request a deployment in DC
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:54 PM
Sep 2

It's not supposed to be something that the President alone can do. But, this Congress and this SCOTUS are absent in their duties to preserve constitutional checks and balances.

James48

(4,948 posts)
19. Under the Home Rule Act
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 10:23 PM
Sep 2

He can become emergency manager for a period up to 30 days.

If Comgress authorizes, it can be longer. But so far, neither House nor Senate have taken up a bill to extend DC military past the 30th day, which would be September 8, isn’t it?

hadEnuf

(3,404 posts)
18. Trump is pushing for a red state to invade a blue state.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 10:01 PM
Sep 2

That should give the southern civil war morons wet dreams.

This is symbolic. The red states are practically Confederate at this point and Trump is stroking that to the hilt.

Gore1FL

(22,602 posts)
20. I don't think National Gaurd Troops serving in other sates is unprecidented.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 10:45 PM
Sep 2

It's their use as shock troops againsts U.S. citizens that's unique. In this instance, it isn't their origins that concern me.

mahatmakanejeeves

(66,791 posts)
21. FWIW: A spokesperson for Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said that Texas "is not preparing to deploy troops to Illinois," ...
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 11:04 PM
Sep 2
Anna Bower
‪@annabower.bsky.social‬

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FWIW: A spokesperson for Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said that Texas “is not preparing to deploy troops to Illinois,” per the Austin American-Statesman.

https://www.statesman.com/politics/texas/article/national-guard-chicago-abbott-21027479.php

Gov. Greg Abbott's office disputed a claim from Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker on Tuesday that the Texas National Guard was preparing to deploy to his state as part of a law and order crackdown by the Trump administration.
Texas is not preparing to deploy troops to Illinois, a spokesman for Abbott said on
Tuesday afternoon.
ALT

‪Anna Bower‬
‪@annabower.bsky.social‬
· 5h
If it’s under Title 32 authority, the Texas guard remains under state control.

That would mean that one state is deploying armed forces into the territory of a non-consenting state.

And that’d clearly be a violation of the principle that states are co-equal, territorially limited sovereigns.
September 2, 2025 at 10:18 PM



Anna Bower
‪@annabower.bsky.social‬

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If it’s under Title 32 authority, the Texas guard remains under state control.

That would mean that one state is deploying armed forces into the territory of a non-consenting state.

And that’d clearly be a violation of the principle that states are co-equal, territorially limited sovereigns.

‪Quinta Jurecic‬
‪@qjurecic.bsky.social‬
· 6h
this is almost certainly under Title 32 authorities (meaning the TX guard will be nominally under TX state control but on a federal mission), meaning the posse comitatus issues that came up in California will not apply. that said, it raises a whole lot of other legal problems
September 2, 2025 at 5:50 PM

If it’s under Title 32 authority, the Texas guard remains under state control.

That would mean that one state is deploying armed forces into the territory of a non-consenting state.

And that’d clearly be a violation of the principle that states are co-equal, territorially limited sovereigns.

Anna Bower (@annabower.bsky.social) 2025-09-02T21:50:11.280Z
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