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The Bulwark @BulwarkOnlineGov. Pritzker: When did we become a country where its ok for the U.S. president to insist on national television that a state should call him to beg for anything, especially something we dont want? Have we truly lost all sense of sanity in this nation that we treat this as normal?
"We have reason to believe that Stephen Miller chose the month of September to come to Chicago because of celebrations around Mexican Independence Day that happen here every year," Pritzker said. "It breaks my heart to report that we have been told ICE will try and disrupt community picnics and peaceful parades. Let's be clear: the terror and cruelty is the point, not the safety of anyone living here."
"[They said] they will begin operations here sometime in the coming week," Pritzker said in an exclusive interview earlier Tuesday. "That - literally after two weeks of all this talk about troops on the ground - that's the first time we've heard from the federal government on this."
In a Tuesday press conference from the White House, President Donald Trump called Chicago a "hell hole," and said he will in fact send National Guard troops in.
"If the governor of Illinois would call me up, I would love to do it, he said. Now, we're going to do it anyway. We have a right to do it.
Pritzker responded by saying, "I refuse to play a reality game show with Donald Trump again."
"When did we become a country where it's OK for the US president to insist on national television that a state should call him to beg for anything, especially something we don't want? Have we truly lost all sense of sanity in this nation that we treat this as normal?" Pritzker said.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/pritzker-believes-staging-for-federal-enforcement-in-chicago-has-already-begun/3818551/
Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker press conference today:

question everything
(50,891 posts)bigtree
(92,374 posts)...Trump will likely overreach and Illinois will have to look to the courts to restore or assert the primacy of the state in military deployments.
The caution for the governor would be the likely claim of an 'emergency' by the administration along the lines of the one they're operating under with their immigration raids. That's likely why they included that element in the planned invasion and occupation of Illinois.
The 'emergencies' have yet to be directly addressed by any court, but there's an air of compliance and complicity in the courts, especially the Supreme Court, so he's going to need to bend, at least initially.
The LA decision isn't much cover because that judge limited the ruling to LA, and left 300 troops in place, essentially telling them to behave in the future.
Escurumbele
(3,873 posts)next year, when things change, and I believe they will change, they can resume them.
Best thing is to keep everyone away from the thugs, have watch groups who can advice where they are, if the thigs f=go this way, then everyone leave, or go the other way, keep them guessing, but don't allow them to commit their crimes.
bigtree
(92,374 posts)...but I'd be interested to hear from the community on that.
Sneederbunk
(16,606 posts)Karasu
(1,953 posts)having to give so much as a fucking justification. Because "crime."
newdeal2
(3,808 posts)They will be sorry one day. They will face the consequences under a future president.
Karasu
(1,953 posts)both free and fair, but one can hope.
Hekate
(99,267 posts)
We actually have seen this beg me behavior from Trump before during the Covid pandemic. Trump is without question a sadist, and he appoints sadists to do his bidding.
Maru Kitteh
(30,545 posts)substance and style. Pritzger was quite impressive indeed!
greatauntoftriplets
(178,150 posts)It's hard to reckon that with his being a billionaire, but J.B. is the exception to the rule.
BidenRocks
(2,103 posts)They are out manned and outgunned.
If the military attacks us on illegal orders, veterans will lead the resistance.
Sniper attacks and drones. Just like Ukraine.
Will OUR military follow a diktator or the Constitution?
Many lives depend on that decision!
Hekate
(99,267 posts)
. for an excuse, any excuse, to gun you down and declare martial law on the rest of us.
Therefore Gov. Pritzker is advising Chicagoans to chill out and go about their business.
But I get the impression from what you wrote that you yourself want a bloody battle. Yes? Thats what you describe.
BidenRocks
(2,103 posts)Chump doesn't need an excuse. Like that small boat getting blown up because he says so?
What happens after he invades the fifth, sixth ... city?
This books been written.
Resist!
ananda
(32,961 posts)Not only are so many minds descending into madness
and chaos, coupled with abject cruelty... but the world
around us is being systematically destroyed and will
be made unliveable sooner rather than later.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,778 posts)If I remember correctly, he claimed he didnt have the authority to do so.
KitFox
(381 posts)70sEraVet
(4,832 posts)https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-confuses-nikki-haley-pelosi-talking-jan-6-rcna134863
You know, he's that genius who can supposedly remember a string of five words -- and "they said, we've never seen anything like it!"

KitFox
(381 posts)hadEnuf
(3,369 posts)His actions now are planned. It's never been a question of his attitude.
His actions and the actions of those who run him are as clear as day. They have crossed too many lines already and it's just going to continue.
Escurumbele
(3,873 posts)He helped the insurrection exactly the best way he could, by allowing them to destroy and try to stop the confirmation, anyone who expected the opposite has not realized yet who trump is.
lonely bird
(2,504 posts)I got nothing else.
mjvpi
(1,771 posts)And hold them on state charges with no bail. IL might be pissed enough. J
twodogsbarking
(15,467 posts)kentuck
(114,545 posts)More people need to hear it.
Bev54
(12,800 posts)no masked ice allowed without specific warrants and if they have specific warrants that the local law enforcement will go with one ice agent to pickup the individual in a lawful manner?
surfered
(8,937 posts)republianmushroom
(21,234 posts)Ray Bruns
(5,556 posts)"When did we become a country where it's OK for the US president to insist on national television that a state should call him to beg for anything
Martin68
(26,409 posts)paulrevere2018
(75 posts)Initech
(106,172 posts)Fox News is the worst thing that's happened to the United States since the Civil War. Hell other countries are importing Fox' brand of fascism and making it their own (see: Hungary, Russia, etc). It's scary. Fox is the enemy of freedom, common sense, and basic human decency.
diverdownjt
(733 posts)If you think all the internment camps are for the mexican's? Trump is deploying troops into blue cities so when he announces no more elections the nat. guard will already be there to quell the riots. Anyone rioting(protesting) will be arrested and off to the camp with you.
This is my fear. I'm a registered voter. My address is known in a voter database....is it so unreasonable...not to be a possibility.
American Patriot born and raised. Please tell if you think I'm right.