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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDeadline: Legal Blog-It matters why the grand jury in D.C. declined to indict sandwich thrower Sean Dunn
There are different ways of reading the stunning action by a Washington grand jury amid Trumps federal crackdown on the nations capital.
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https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/dc-sandwich-thrower-grand-jury-indictment-decline-matters-rcna227748
We know that a grand jury in Washington refused to indict sandwich thrower Sean Dunn. But we dont necessarily know why.
Its a stunning result with serious implications no matter what motivated the rejection. Yet, what those implications are, exactly, could depend on the rationale for refusing to approve a felony charge against the man who became a folk hero in D.C. amid the Trump administrations federal crackdown in the nations capital......
But something bigger may have been at play: jury nullification. Thats when jurors believe that prosecutors have proved the technical elements of the case but, nonetheless, the jury renders a moral objection by way of a not guilty verdict (or in the case of a grand jury, a no true bill).
To put the question one way: Did grand jurors think the government did a bad job, or a bad thing?.....
Importantly, we have more than Dunns case to go on in analyzing this phenomenon. Theres the even more shocking recent failure of D.C. prosecutors to get an indictment against Sidney Reid a whopping three times. She was initially charged under the same federal assault statute as Dunn. After striking out in the grand jury, prosecutors reduced her case to a misdemeanor, which doesnt require grand jury approval.
Lets assume for a moment that grand jurors in both the Dunn and Reid cases just thought there wasnt enough proof to charge them with felonies. The known facts of both cases certainly allow for that possibility. Through that lens, the message to prosecutors is that they need to more carefully evaluate the quality of cases they bring.
But if the message is that the people of D.C. are declining to approve charges despite the evidence presented to them, thats something that should worry prosecutors even more.
Its a stunning result with serious implications no matter what motivated the rejection. Yet, what those implications are, exactly, could depend on the rationale for refusing to approve a felony charge against the man who became a folk hero in D.C. amid the Trump administrations federal crackdown in the nations capital......
But something bigger may have been at play: jury nullification. Thats when jurors believe that prosecutors have proved the technical elements of the case but, nonetheless, the jury renders a moral objection by way of a not guilty verdict (or in the case of a grand jury, a no true bill).
To put the question one way: Did grand jurors think the government did a bad job, or a bad thing?.....
Importantly, we have more than Dunns case to go on in analyzing this phenomenon. Theres the even more shocking recent failure of D.C. prosecutors to get an indictment against Sidney Reid a whopping three times. She was initially charged under the same federal assault statute as Dunn. After striking out in the grand jury, prosecutors reduced her case to a misdemeanor, which doesnt require grand jury approval.
Lets assume for a moment that grand jurors in both the Dunn and Reid cases just thought there wasnt enough proof to charge them with felonies. The known facts of both cases certainly allow for that possibility. Through that lens, the message to prosecutors is that they need to more carefully evaluate the quality of cases they bring.
But if the message is that the people of D.C. are declining to approve charges despite the evidence presented to them, thats something that should worry prosecutors even more.
I am personally voting that both cases are jury nullification and Piro needs to worry if she takes these cases to trial.
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Deadline: Legal Blog-It matters why the grand jury in D.C. declined to indict sandwich thrower Sean Dunn (Original Post)
LetMyPeopleVote
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Deadline: Legal Blog-Grand jury rejects yet another felony indictment in Trump's D.C. crackdown
LetMyPeopleVote
Sunday
#3
This is, basically, the Jurors know the charges are complete BULLSHIT, and vote NO on
Ars Longa
Sunday
#4
They can indict a ham sandwich, but the guy who threw it? Definitely not at fault.
Wounded Bear
Sunday
#5
MrWowWow
(977 posts)1. Wrong Kind of Sandwich Yielded Jury Nullification?
Pastrami on Sourdough Rye with smoked Swiss cheese and mustard. That might have been indictable. Definitely delectable no matter what!
Turbineguy
(39,292 posts)2. You really need one of those
crunchy French baguette things to do some harm.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,117 posts)3. Deadline: Legal Blog-Grand jury rejects yet another felony indictment in Trump's D.C. crackdown
In at least three cases so far, grand jurors have refused to approve felony charges against people the administration said assaulted law enforcement.
Strike four ⦠Trumpâs unqualified DOJ may please him, but theyâre losing like nobodyâs ever seen before in front of the Grand Jury.
— @jimrissmiller.bsky.social 2025-08-31T20:16:33.324Z
Grand jury rejects yet another felony indictment in Trump's D.C. crackdown www.msnbc.com/deadline-whi...
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/trump-dc-crackdown-grand-jury-reject-felony-indictment-rcna228104
Whatever is happening, its not normal. Thats true of much else these days, but this latest stark chapter goes to the heart of the justice system. While its well understood that trial juries wield significant power, grand juries can shape, curb or kill cases at their inception. Most cases easily move past the grand jury stage. But grand jurors in D.C. arent acting as a rubber stamp.
We already knew about the whopping triple failure to indict Sidney Reid, as well as the failure to do the same against sandwich thrower Sean Dunn. Both cases are proceeding as misdemeanors instead of felonies after grand juries rejected more serious charges of assaulting law enforcement.
Now, grand jurors have declined to approve another indictment in a case charged under that same assault statute. This one involves Alvin Summers, whose case prosecutors actually moved to dismiss (though without prejudice, meaning they could try again later, a distinction that dominated the saga surrounding New York City Mayor Eric Adams). Seeking a permanent dismissal on Thursday, Summers lawyers wrote that the officers testimony was rejected by the grand jury, presumably after reviewing the body-worn camera video.....
That previously led me to wonder, in examining the Reid and Dunn cases, whether grand jurors simply thought prosecutors couldnt satisfy the relatively low evidentiary burden at this preliminary stage of a case, or whether grand jurors were making more profound statements of nullification, the latter referring to situations in which jurors believe prosecutors have proved their cases but nonetheless reject them because they find the prosecutions or what they represent offensive.
The implications of either scenario are striking. And remember, this is just what we know about what has happened so far. This incredible story is still being written, but its one that cant be ignored amid everything else thats abnormal in these times.
We already knew about the whopping triple failure to indict Sidney Reid, as well as the failure to do the same against sandwich thrower Sean Dunn. Both cases are proceeding as misdemeanors instead of felonies after grand juries rejected more serious charges of assaulting law enforcement.
Now, grand jurors have declined to approve another indictment in a case charged under that same assault statute. This one involves Alvin Summers, whose case prosecutors actually moved to dismiss (though without prejudice, meaning they could try again later, a distinction that dominated the saga surrounding New York City Mayor Eric Adams). Seeking a permanent dismissal on Thursday, Summers lawyers wrote that the officers testimony was rejected by the grand jury, presumably after reviewing the body-worn camera video.....
That previously led me to wonder, in examining the Reid and Dunn cases, whether grand jurors simply thought prosecutors couldnt satisfy the relatively low evidentiary burden at this preliminary stage of a case, or whether grand jurors were making more profound statements of nullification, the latter referring to situations in which jurors believe prosecutors have proved their cases but nonetheless reject them because they find the prosecutions or what they represent offensive.
The implications of either scenario are striking. And remember, this is just what we know about what has happened so far. This incredible story is still being written, but its one that cant be ignored amid everything else thats abnormal in these times.
Ars Longa
(260 posts)4. This is, basically, the Jurors know the charges are complete BULLSHIT, and vote NO on
said BS!!!!!
Wounded Bear
(62,856 posts)5. They can indict a ham sandwich, but the guy who threw it? Definitely not at fault.
