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27 Aug 2025
A federal grand jury in the United States has declined to indict a man for throwing a sandwich at a Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agent who was on patrol as part of President Donald Trumps deployment of force in Washington, DC.
The grand jury had been weighing the case of Sean Charles Dunn, a former employee at the Department of Justice (DOJ) who was charged with felony assault ...
Indictments are usually a technicality in the prosecutorial process. There is a saying in the US legal system that a good prosecutor can convince a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich ...
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/27/grand-jury-declines-to-indict-man-for-throwing-sandwich-at-us-agents

questionseverything
(11,189 posts)Turbineguy
(39,292 posts)Maybe they need to use beef in breadly weapons.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,117 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(169,117 posts)The former Justice Department employee, who threw a sub at federal officers in Washington and came to be known as "Sandwich Guy," wasn't indicted on a federal felony charge.
Grand jury declines to indict man who threw a sandwich at federal officer in D.C.
— Raymond Norman (@raymondnorman.bsky.social) 2025-08-27T16:08:26.164Z
The former Justice Department attorney who threw a sub at federal officers in Washington, and came to be known as "Sandwich Guy," was not indicted on a federal felony charge.
www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/grand-jury-declines-indict-sandwich-guy-threw-sub-dc-federal-officer-rcna227464
The grand jury did not return an indictment against a former Justice Department employee who was seen on camera throwing a hoagie at the chest of one of the federal officers President Donald Trump has deployed in the nations capital, according to two people familiar with the matter.
The grand jurys decision not to indict Sean Dunn is another sign of pushback from Washington, D.C., residents over Trump's deployment of the National Guard and other federal law enforcement agencies in the city, who have put a particular focus on immigration enforcement. The New York Times was first to report the news.......
It's not the first time federal prosecutors have had trouble getting a Washington-based grand jury to indict a resident who opposed the new law enforcement presence in D.C. Federal prosecutors failed to obtain an indictment of a woman who was arrested for allegedly assaulting an FBI special agent at an immigration-related protest, the Times reported.
It is highly unusual for grand juries not to indict, given that the standard is probable cause rather than beyond a reasonable doubt as it would be at trial, and because grand jurors typically hear only from prosecutors.
madville
(7,827 posts)Federal misdemeanor charges dont require a grand jury indictment so hell still likely have to go to trial if a plea deal isnt reached. They could still present the felony charge to another grand jury
H2O Man
(77,801 posts)I had to run to the store today. There was a group of people laughing about this in one aisle.
UTUSN
(75,458 posts)John Farmer
(334 posts)for assault with a breadly weapon?
jmowreader
(52,638 posts)You also have to watch him drink your milkshake.
Emile
(37,177 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(169,117 posts)In at least three cases so far, grand jurors have refused to approve felony charges against people the administration said assaulted law enforcement.
Strike four ⦠Trumpâs unqualified DOJ may please him, but theyâre losing like nobodyâs ever seen before in front of the Grand Jury.
— @jimrissmiller.bsky.social 2025-08-31T20:16:33.324Z
Grand jury rejects yet another felony indictment in Trump's D.C. crackdown www.msnbc.com/deadline-whi...
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/trump-dc-crackdown-grand-jury-reject-felony-indictment-rcna228104
We already knew about the whopping triple failure to indict Sidney Reid, as well as the failure to do the same against sandwich thrower Sean Dunn. Both cases are proceeding as misdemeanors instead of felonies after grand juries rejected more serious charges of assaulting law enforcement.
Now, grand jurors have declined to approve another indictment in a case charged under that same assault statute. This one involves Alvin Summers, whose case prosecutors actually moved to dismiss (though without prejudice, meaning they could try again later, a distinction that dominated the saga surrounding New York City Mayor Eric Adams). Seeking a permanent dismissal on Thursday, Summers lawyers wrote that the officers testimony was rejected by the grand jury, presumably after reviewing the body-worn camera video.....
That previously led me to wonder, in examining the Reid and Dunn cases, whether grand jurors simply thought prosecutors couldnt satisfy the relatively low evidentiary burden at this preliminary stage of a case, or whether grand jurors were making more profound statements of nullification, the latter referring to situations in which jurors believe prosecutors have proved their cases but nonetheless reject them because they find the prosecutions or what they represent offensive.
The implications of either scenario are striking. And remember, this is just what we know about what has happened so far. This incredible story is still being written, but its one that cant be ignored amid everything else thats abnormal in these times.
Swede
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jmowreader
(52,638 posts)Maybe the reason the prosecutor couldn't get an indictment was the sandwich contained no ham.
Or the case was stupid.
Or the prosecutor isn't any good.