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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLev Parnas Says The Monday Krasnov/Zelenskyy Meeting Is A Trap
Parnas knows Krasnov, he was an operative for him. Krasnov says that the Alaska Putin Meeting was a setup for the Zelenskyy meeting.
Krasnov will offer Zelenskyy the Putin land swap deal and when Zelenskyy refuses, Krasnov will proclaim that Zelenskyy, not Putin, is the obstacle for peace.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-danger-is-clear-ex-trump-operative-warns-white-house-guest-of-planned-trap/ar-AA1KEk4A?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=68a1b5b91b9b43e395f0ee9150bc12ae&ei=13

Lovie777
(19,997 posts)as to the trap, I agree. I fear for Pres. Z's safety.
Moe and Curly have worked out a deal.
Now, whered Larry go?
Texin
(2,792 posts)European heads of state will be in attendance. If anything, 'Krasnov' will be surrounded by NATO leaders who will disabuse him that he has any power to force a surrender or capitulation.
tries to keep them out of the meeting, I would hope Zelensky refuses to meet with trump.
Lonestarblue
(12,910 posts)He went to Alaska to get his marching orders from Putin. Trump had all the power in his hands (sanctions, weapons, etc.) and relinquished it to Putin. Why? What hold does Putin still have on Trump?
gab13by13
(29,632 posts)Someone funded Epstein, why not Putin, why not Bibi? They both probably have the files.
Krasnov is a puppet to Putin and Bibi. Oh but Jimmy Carter had to put his peanut farm in a blind trust. The most honest president we ever had.
wolfie001
(5,995 posts)Also, Epstein had connections with MOSSAD from what I've read. I wonder why Anonymous isn't actively doing anything. Aren't they supposed to hack evil people and evil organizations? tRUMP is the most evil leader since Hitler for gawd's sakes. Threatening the very existence of Democratic America.
LuvLoogie
(8,242 posts)I think Anonymous thwarted the man-in-the-middle shenanigans in Ohio and elsewhere. Remember when Karl Rove was sure the vote count was going to flip away from Barack in Ohio? Then I think they were SD out by Snowden a year later when he defected.
Anonymous has gone low level ever since. I think the remaining anonymous activity is there to bait new hackers into revealing themselves as potential new recruits. Then eliminated.
wolfie001
(5,995 posts)That's why he fled to Sweden where it was once lily-white and had the extra protection from extradition. He became, and it's only a theory, radicalized because of Hillary's inclusive policies and potential. Meanwhile, Sweden was welcoming many more brown people at the same time. I think it drove this almost albino-looking, white as a ghost person cray cray.
GiqueCee
(2,776 posts)... would sell out Ivanka for a second scoop of ice cream.
2naSalit
(97,688 posts)Liberal In Texas
(15,558 posts)Plus, he's also said something about Zelensky being responsible for starting the war. He parrots the ruskie propagandsa.
Biophilic
(6,035 posts)Hopefully hes not coming alone this time
Kid Berwyn
(21,897 posts)Majorly Traitor Greeces secret lover was disguised as the journalist who asked him about disrespecting Dimdonnie the Traitor by not wearing a suit.
Hornedfrog2000
(847 posts)I was expecting that to be the case... nobody is going to be fooled by it. Zelensky should ask Krasnov if he should just focus on Epstein since that is where his mind seems to be.
Why would anyone think Ukraine should give shit to russia? If anything Ukraine should level russian cities.
33taw
(3,226 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,999 posts)This is a smart move for Europe and Zelenskyy.
kkmarie
(316 posts)Against the Krasnov Putin regime.
Krasnov won't be bullying President Zelenskky this time.
RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES NOW
Gimpyknee
(560 posts)wolfie001
(5,995 posts)Vive la France!
gab13by13
(29,632 posts)Not physically present?
sheshe2
(93,493 posts)Also, trump can say what he wants but who will believe him?! He lies about everything.
sop
(15,807 posts)The guy who was found guilty in U.S. Federal Court on six counts related to illegal donations to the 2020 campaign of Donald Trump, and was sentenced to 20 months in prison, three years of supervised release and $2,322,500 in restitution? The Soviet-born former associate of Rudy Giuliani who was involved in creating the false BidenUkraine conspiracy theory, to help Trump damage Joe Biden? That Lev Parnas? Stop spreading Republican talking points.
What about anything he said is a Republican talking point?
sop
(15,807 posts)paleotn
(20,824 posts)By both Russians and the regime. "Trump's carefully calculated moves with Putin in Alaska." That's complete bullshit. That whole idea is stale crap straight from the Kremlin. After getting completely rolled, Donnie is simply doing what he's been told to do. Or else perhaps. The Russians have him by the short hairs and Epstein's ghost is only one of his worries.
Parnas is just another scammer trying a new angle of grift.
gab13by13
(29,632 posts)What the fuck is Parnas scamming? He is warning Zelenskyy about what Krasnov may do to him.
Parnas exposed the Russian conspiracy theories that he was a part of. I do not get the attacks on Parnas.
paleotn
(20,824 posts)But that's obvious. The Russkies have been flogging that 13th century idea for over a year. But framing that as some "grand conspiracy" with Trump is over the top and meant to give Parmas attention as much as anything. And attention gets him paid these days, so the wilder the conspiracy the better. Gins up chatter and helps with future TV gigs. That formula seems to work just as well on the left as the right. If done on the right, we call it scamming the rubes. The point being, not to disseminate information and analysis but to simply get people worked up. There's a monetary value to that.
gab13by13
(29,632 posts)In case you missed it, I said Parnav was a Krasnov operative.
Parnav was arrested, admitted everything he did for Krasnov, testified against Krasnov about the bogus Hunter/ Joe Biden Bull shit.
Lev Parnav by going public calling this a trap is risking his life to help Ukraine.
I find your post to be a right wing talking point, but what do I know, right sop?
Parnav did everything you say and then admitted everything was a Russian conspiracy theory. The person in on the lies admitted they were lies.
sop
(15,807 posts)"Im risking everything to bring you this truth. My sources are risking everything too. Every day, Trump, Putin, and their enablers are tightening their grip, cracking down on leakers, truth-tellers, and independent voices like ours. They want silence. They want obedience. They want you in the dark while they divide nations like real estate and rewrite history as if the dead, the stolen, and the broken never mattered."
That's pretty lurid stuff, Gab. I'm shocked courageous truth-teller Lev hasn't already been found dead, thrown out of a fifth floor window, or something. You really want to rely on Lev Parnas, a well known Republican operative and scumbag dirty trickster, as your source?
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,267 posts)As far as I know, Russia will keep the Crimean peninsula and the two areas in Ukraine it currently occupies. Ukraine will get bupkis. T***p will grab a huge chunk of rare earths to use as he sees fit.
Dementia Don will proclaim himself "King of the Deal," and demand a Nobel Prize.
Gimpyknee
(560 posts)No land is being swapped. Russia gets to keep Crimean land. Trump is selling out the Ukraine.
gab13by13
(29,632 posts)mwooldri
(10,698 posts)... Land that Ukraine is presently holding. It's like if a country invaded the USA, took every state on the eastern seaboard from Georgia all the way to the north ... And the agreement is that the USA would get Delaware back if it handed Florida over to the invaders.
It's worse than a ceasefire on present lines.
muriel_volestrangler
(104,528 posts)plus all of what he's captured so far.
Some reports suggest that Putin is demanding that Ukraine hand over the remaining territory it controls in both oblasts.
But that would mean Kyiv giving up on places which tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers have died trying to protect - cities like Kramatorsk and Slovyansk, and a fortified line protecting Ukrainian territory to the north and west.
...
What about Zaporizhzhia and Kherson, captured in 2022?
Here, it's reported, Russia is offering to halt its offensive and freeze the lines.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkrn433lk2o
dem4decades
(13,142 posts)newdeal2
(3,808 posts)And Lil Marco has about ten agencies to run. Best not to create any more work for himself.
paleotn
(20,824 posts)The Russkies have been floating that idea for months now. It's rather stale.
gab13by13
(29,632 posts)The United States position will be that Ukraine surrender to Putin's demands.
Xavier Breath
(6,085 posts)And the bearded, buckeye couch-fucker will be there for "moral" support.
ananda
(32,961 posts)One thing Trump doesn't understand is opposition.
It will make him look crazier and more stupid than
he already is (if that's possible).
Tommy Carcetti
(44,175 posts)BoRaGard
(7,299 posts)repubes have sold their souls
wolfie001
(5,995 posts)"russia russia russia!" is a fact and the country deserves no capital letters.
Kaleva
(39,831 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 17, 2025, 10:38 AM - Edit history (1)
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gab13by13
(29,632 posts)I wasn't aware that Parnas spoke directly to Zelenskyy. Why would Zelenskyy respond to a hypothetical?
Parnas is saying that Krasnov is going to tell Zelenskyy that the United States agrees with Putin's demands for peace, which amounts to surrendering land.
Kaleva
(39,831 posts)Did Parmas make any effort at all to warn? He claims to be connected.
But at the end of his article, hes asking for money.
This may be nothing more then a scam to get people to pay for a subscription.
Festivito
(13,774 posts). . . . Farmers . . . .
He tried to steal it all by killing you. Forgivable?
He shot and killed your family. Also, forgivable?
He made plans to assassinate you. What a bad boy?
He holds part of your farm after moving fences.
He hires goons to keep you from moving the fences back.
You shoot his goons and bomb his weapon supplier.
He shoots and bombs your family members.
He gets a big judge he helped put into office.
He and his judge decide you will give him part of the land he stole to swap for him to stop killing your kin and you get the rest of the stolen land he doesn't want.
The judge wants to be called noble for saying: "He who steals, gets: something for his trouble!"
Oh, yeah, forget about the dead, after all, they're dead.
Fiendish Thingy
(20,606 posts)But now it has been announced that most of the European leadership and diplomatic corps will be accompanying Zelensky to DC.
Starmer, Meloni, Macron, the head of the EU and many others will be there.
Best case scenario:
They shower Trump with praise, tell him he did his best, and convince him that the only path forward to a true and lasting peace (and the Nobel Prize) is to supply Ukraine with any and all arms needed to defend itself and defeat Russia.
Reminder:
Trumps positions, policies and actions are frequently determined by the last person/persons he was in the room with, and there are a significant number of Republicans (Graham being the most vocal) who support continuing to supply Ukraine with arms.
Its so crazy, it just might work!
gab13by13
(29,632 posts)We are selling arms to the EU who may or may not send them to Ukraine.
Fiendish Thingy
(20,606 posts)And have continued since then.
The US to EU to Ukraine deal you are referring to is regarding the Patriot systems, not all arms.
Baitball Blogger
(50,842 posts)mountain grammy
(28,156 posts)will be found on the Kinko's copy machine down the street from the White House. Only the EPSTEIN FILES are top secret for these clowns.
Deep State Witch
(12,151 posts)That's why Zelenskyy is bringing lots of backup. He's not stupid - and neither are the other world leaders. Even Merloni - who likes to think of herself as "Mussolini in a dress" has come out strongly in favor of Ukraine.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,625 posts)No kidding.