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RandySF

(76,878 posts)
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 12:20 AM Aug 12

Abbott: Texas can 'eliminate' 10 Democratic districts in response to California

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) warned that Texas could get rid of as many as 10 Democratic districts if California moves ahead with its plan to redraw its House map and neutralize the expected GOP gains in the Lone Star State.

“Listen, all those big blue states, they’ve already gerrymandered,” Abbott told CNN’s Jake Tapper on Monday, when asked if he was concerned about a redistricting arms race as Texas moves forward to create new congressional lines.

“Look at the map of Illinois. Look at the map of California, New York and Massachusetts, and so many other blue states they gerrymandered a long time ago. They got nothing left with regard to what they can do,” Abbott said. “And know this: If California tries to gerrymander, find more districts, listen, Texas has the ability to eliminate 10 Democrats in our state.”

Abbott’s remarks underscore how Republicans plan to be as aggressive as possible in trying to knock off as many Democratic seats as they can. Right now, the state has 25 House Republicans and 12 Democrats, in addition to one vacancy waiting to be filled after the late Rep. Sylvester Turner (D-Texas) died in March.



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Abbott: Texas can 'eliminate' 10 Democratic districts in response to California (Original Post) RandySF Aug 12 OP
... SSJVegeta Aug 12 #1
Looking forward to hearing about a "wheelchair accident" in the state of Texas.... Jack Valentino Aug 12 #2
sigh dweller Aug 12 #3
He's full of it! LeftInTX Aug 12 #4
California got rid of gerrymandered districts Johonny Aug 12 #5
The voters of California voted to take the power away from the legislature and give it to an independent commission MichMan Aug 12 #25
He's wording it as a temporary action - but you're right that it is not guaranteed to succeed. FBaggins Aug 12 #32
I checked those maps. The only ones capable of flipping to blue are the two in south texas. LeftInTX Aug 12 #28
They really didn't FBaggins Aug 12 #36
Cleaned-up link. Celerity Aug 12 #6
As always, every accusation is a confession. Hugin Aug 12 #7
Yes, just another republicon lie BoRaGard Aug 12 #11
And, projection. GoCubsGo Aug 12 #13
Post removed Post removed Aug 12 #8
Hell, Greg! Why not eliminate ALL democratic districts? no_hypocrisy Aug 12 #9
Piss on him. He started this shit, call his bluff. Emile Aug 12 #10
No, asshole. Your state is the one that's got "nothing left." GoCubsGo Aug 12 #12
If there are 2 million more Democrats than Republicans, how is it that Trump won Texas by 14 points? MichMan Aug 12 #14
Maybe lots of people stayed home? GoCubsGo Aug 12 #15
3.6 million Democrats stayed home? MichMan Aug 12 #19
Texas had a 61..5% turnout GoCubsGo Aug 12 #20
Possible, but most intelligent people understand the gerrymandering has nothing to do with Presidential and Senate races MichMan Aug 12 #22
You're the one who brought it up. GoCubsGo Aug 12 #23
Go ahead and believe that Democrats outnumber Republicans in Texas by 2 million if you want MichMan Aug 12 #26
Voter roll purges helps clear the way for cheating MagickMuffin Aug 12 #16
There a million and a half more statewide, BUT TnDem Aug 12 #35
This meme that there are more registered Dems should stop. In Texas we don't register a party! Liberal In Texas Aug 12 #17
We do not have registered Democrats or Registered Republicans in Texas! LeftInTX Aug 12 #29
And of course edhopper Aug 12 #18
If Abbott does that it could backfire bigly Jersey Devil Aug 12 #21
Although Diraven Aug 12 #27
The same thing is true in California (only more so) FBaggins Aug 12 #34
If that were true, that';s what they'd already be doing. eShirl Aug 12 #24
Bingo Scruffy1 Aug 12 #30
The really obvous thing that the GOP doesn't want to talk about is that IF THEIR POLICIES were actually favorable to Exp Aug 12 #31
Abbott isn't a republican, he's a trump ass licker mdbl Aug 12 #33
Is he going to outlaw the party? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 13 #37

dweller

(27,030 posts)
3. sigh
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 12:33 AM
Aug 12

By the time 2026 gets here and if there are elections
No one will believe or trust the outcomes …

smdh



✌🏻

Johonny

(24,466 posts)
5. California got rid of gerrymandered districts
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 04:22 AM
Aug 12

Which is why the governor of California needs to actually pass legislation and redraw the maps.

And what Texas is doing is not without risk as their districts are already heavily gerrymandering. To carve out new gains is to create more razor thin margin districts. In a wave election these districts could lead to unexpected loses... maybe.

MichMan

(15,820 posts)
25. The voters of California voted to take the power away from the legislature and give it to an independent commission
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 11:38 AM
Aug 12

I believe Gov Newsom is proposing that it be taken away from them and given back to the legislature. Not sure the voters are going to go for that

FBaggins

(28,407 posts)
32. He's wording it as a temporary action - but you're right that it is not guaranteed to succeed.
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 07:22 PM
Aug 12

It was tried once before, and it failed overwhelmingly.

Now there's a much better reason to support it... but that doesn't mean it will happen.

LeftInTX

(33,518 posts)
28. I checked those maps. The only ones capable of flipping to blue are the two in south texas.
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 01:18 PM
Aug 12

The red districts are red enough that they can be diluted and still remain red.

Here are the results from Chip Roy's 2024 race

61.9% 36.1%





Here are the results from Tony Gonzales' 2024 race
62.3% 37.7%






Tony did not have a strong Democratic opponent in 2024. Gonzales didn't even campaign in the general election! No one else has stepped up. It's sad.
In 2022, the Democrats had a great candidate, but Gonzales had tons of help from the Koch brothers and he campaigned hard.

Texas is capable of cracking and packing even more! Notice they split up urban areas.

FBaggins

(28,407 posts)
36. They really didn't
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 07:40 PM
Aug 12

They just handed the line-drawing power to a commission

But a semi-random commission in a bright blue state still leans heavily blue.

GoCubsGo

(34,243 posts)
13. And, projection.
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 07:37 AM
Aug 12

Every accusation they make is a confession. Every last Republican state that has multiple districts has the snot gerrymandered out of it Texas is one of the worst.

Response to RandySF (Original post)

no_hypocrisy

(52,897 posts)
9. Hell, Greg! Why not eliminate ALL democratic districts?
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 06:57 AM
Aug 12

This wouldn't be happening if Texas had elected Wendy Davis.

GoCubsGo

(34,243 posts)
12. No, asshole. Your state is the one that's got "nothing left."
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 07:35 AM
Aug 12

From what I understand, there are 2 million more registered Democrats than there are registered Republicans. You are already probably close the limits of being able to gerrymander them out, if not at them already. I highly doubt that you have the ability to gerrymander 10 Democratic districts out of existence. You're just hoping that Newsom, Pritzker, and the others haven't noticed. You're in for a rude awakening...

MichMan

(15,820 posts)
14. If there are 2 million more Democrats than Republicans, how is it that Trump won Texas by 14 points?
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 07:58 AM
Aug 12

GoCubsGo

(34,243 posts)
15. Maybe lots of people stayed home?
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 08:08 AM
Aug 12

Not all registered voters actually cast ballots in any given election. God only knows how many ballots that were cast got rejected, too.

MichMan

(15,820 posts)
19. 3.6 million Democrats stayed home?
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 09:08 AM
Aug 12

Harris got a total of 4.8 million vs Trump with 6.4 million. One would have to believe that 57% of all Democratic voters must have stayed home and not voted.

Doesn't make any logical sense.

GoCubsGo

(34,243 posts)
20. Texas had a 61..5% turnout
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 10:21 AM
Aug 12

Two-thirds of their districts are gerrymandered Republican. If you're a Democrat in one of those districts, it's completely plausible that they're not going to bother voting, because they know it won't matter. Throw in all of the voter suppression tactics, like bomb threats and insufficient numbers of voting machines in Democratic districts, and voter roll purges, as Magik Muffin pointed out, and yes, I can see where that many didn't vote.

MichMan

(15,820 posts)
22. Possible, but most intelligent people understand the gerrymandering has nothing to do with Presidential and Senate races
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 11:22 AM
Aug 12

GoCubsGo

(34,243 posts)
23. You're the one who brought it up.
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 11:36 AM
Aug 12

Nobody else here, myself included, has said anything about Presidential and Senate races until you started in with your Gotcha! games. You're free to disagree with me, but keep your insults to yourself.

MichMan

(15,820 posts)
26. Go ahead and believe that Democrats outnumber Republicans in Texas by 2 million if you want
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 11:51 AM
Aug 12

Doesn't make any sense to me given the voting results for the last 20 years

MagickMuffin

(17,879 posts)
16. Voter roll purges helps clear the way for cheating
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 08:49 AM
Aug 12


We have non voters, but I believe the biggest culprit is purging the voter registrations of hundreds of thousands people.

 

TnDem

(1,390 posts)
35. There a million and a half more statewide, BUT
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 07:37 PM
Aug 12

There are almost three million voters that are independent or "unaffiliated".

Liberal In Texas

(15,553 posts)
17. This meme that there are more registered Dems should stop. In Texas we don't register a party!
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 08:56 AM
Aug 12

All you can go by is the primary voting numbers. And recently repubs have turned out more than dems. And the primaries are open, you can vote in either parties that you feel like.

LeftInTX

(33,518 posts)
29. We do not have registered Democrats or Registered Republicans in Texas!
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 01:30 PM
Aug 12

I don't know where they are getting their stats!

2024 Democratic Primary 982,069
2024 Republican Primary 2,323,019

2020 Democratic Primary 2,094,428
2020 Republican Primary 2,017,167


2016 Democratic Primary 1,435,895
2016 Republican Primary 2,836,488

2012 Democratic Primary 590,164
2012 Republican Primary 1,449,477


2008 Democratic Primary 2,874,986
2008 Republican Primary 1,362,322


Overall the state votes about 55% GOP.

In 2008, we had 1,400,000 more Democrats vote in the primary, but McCain got 55% of the vote in the general election.


That's a weird meme floating around!

Jersey Devil

(10,476 posts)
21. If Abbott does that it could backfire bigly
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 11:17 AM
Aug 12

For every Repub district he creates he will have to take some Repubs out of already Repub districts, making those districts more competative. So if there is Dem wave election he could get wiped out. If they could have safely made 10 more Repub districts before now they would have done so already.

Diraven

(1,531 posts)
27. Although
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 12:33 PM
Aug 12

Trump won Texas by 14% in 2024. It's literally possible with a surgical enough gerrymander to get every district to that margin so they can get rid of every Democratic seat if they want to, and that margin would be hard to overcome.

FBaggins

(28,407 posts)
34. The same thing is true in California (only more so)
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 07:36 PM
Aug 12

California was only slightly bluer last year than Texas was red.

Texas is looking to move from 25/14 to 30/9 - That's a move from 64% of the House seats to 77%

California, OTOH, is already 82% Democratic in their House delegation (43/9)... and they're talking about shooting for 49/3 (a shocking 94%).

There are already five existing blue districts that were very close last November.

Scruffy1

(3,463 posts)
30. Bingo
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 01:34 PM
Aug 12

Having lived in El Paso for the last six years it seems pretty obvious that the state government is totally corrupt. One of the legislatures last votes was not to audit the $11,000,000,000 that Abbott "spent" on the border fiasco. Two thousand dollar bus tickets, charter flights, etc. The Texas DOT has been "working" on the Zaragosa bridge intersection for 5 years. They don't even pretend anymore. Tim Dunn owns the Texas legislare and bought the votes to keep Paxton in office. The legislators only get about $700 a month when not in session so I have to assume there are some really good "fringe benefits." Just today the utilities commission is refusing to release the information on crypto power consumption. Paxton is suing for the info so I assume that as soon as he gets his cut he will drop it. The reason that Harris didn't do well in Texas is the bullshit media selling immigrant with made up shit like 'Venzualan Gangs' and no effort from the Dems at all.I live three houses from the border and it's the safest place I"ve lived in since I was a boy in a small town in Iowa.

Exp

(525 posts)
31. The really obvous thing that the GOP doesn't want to talk about is that IF THEIR POLICIES were actually favorable to
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 01:53 PM
Aug 12

the public, they would not need to cheat.

That's it in a wing-nut-shell.

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