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EarlG

(23,162 posts)
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 01:57 PM Aug 11

So let me get this straight

On January 6 2021, there was a big riot in Washington DC, instigated by Donald Trump, who encouraged his supporters to march to the Capitol Building by telling them lies about the presidential election.

When they got there, they assaulted hundreds of police officers (causing the deaths of a couple) and vandalized the beautiful, historic building on their way to try to hang the vice president and various members of Congress. They smashed windows, caused millions of dollars in property damage, and stole personal and government property from offices.

Then, when he became president again, Donald Trump gave pardons to all of those people and let them out of jail, even the ones with long sentences for violently assaulting cops and committing seditious conspiracy.

And then today Donald Trump went on TV and said he was sending the National Guard into DC and federalizing its police force, in order to combat violent crime and protect government property, even though violent crime in DC is currently down 26% from 2024, which was down 35% from 2023.

If I have all that right, then I guess I just have one more question...















Is Trump going to release the Epstein files like he promised?



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So let me get this straight (Original Post) EarlG Aug 11 OP
nothing like a 34-count convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, serial defamer, found in contempt of court 11(?) times,... unblock Aug 11 #1
Maybe he's afraid of another MAGA insurrection? leftstreet Aug 11 #2
Nah, it's the same shit he pulled in Los Angeles. GoCubsGo Aug 11 #3
That's how I see it. Hey, if he starts Civil War 2 we won't be talking about Epstein & Maxwell any more. Hekate Aug 11 #13
Good point Magoo48 Aug 11 #19
Yup. He'll do anything to keep his filthy ass out of prison. GoCubsGo Aug 11 #34
We can walk (talk) and chew gum at the same time, Justice matters. Aug 11 #44
Typical tourist behavior IronLionZion Aug 11 #4
There are always the possibility of duplicates Justice matters. Aug 11 #45
Yep, no National guard sent on 1/6 but let's send them in now Bev54 Aug 11 #5
White guy, DOGE traitor, got his ass stomped Warpy Aug 11 #6
Don't expect to hear that from our cowed media. spanone Aug 11 #7
Tiny Balls Trump stands up for Big Balls. generalbetrayus Aug 11 #8
A hundred recs for this post. Diamond_Dog Aug 11 #9
Distract Delay Deflect Endlessmike56 Aug 11 #10
Ahhh, Mierda47 forgot to take his Irony Difiecient tablets this morning, again. n/t aggiesal Aug 11 #11
It's a total inversion of what should be. NewSpeak, alternative facts, L'etat, c'est moi. erronis Aug 11 #12
and he's kicking out the homeless while condemning low income housing with his Attorney General Uncle Joe Aug 11 #14
I thought only Nancy Pelosi could call the National Guard. (sarcasm) Owens Aug 11 #15
Hey Earl! What you doing still talking about THE JEFFREY EPSTEIN FILES, Trump said he was BFF and a nice guy & .... Brainfodder Aug 11 #16
Nailed it malaise Aug 11 #17
You got it, & it all makes me mad as hell. CaptainTruth Aug 11 #18
"Big Balls" is a pussy North Coast Lawyer Aug 11 #20
This is about Big Balls. They are doing this because one punk got beat up by kids. underpants Aug 11 #30
He simply got what all those Dogepunks should get N/T tonekat Aug 11 #40
Did Mr Balls get beat up at all? Or was that some leftover fake blood from Butler, PA? JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 12 #50
He got his ass whooped. 3 AM. underpants Aug 12 #52
By a 15 year old girl and a 15 year old boy. Scrivener7 Aug 12 #53
Oh that explains it. They didn't have their licenses yet. underpants Aug 12 #55
Which brings up the question of what the underage DOGE child was doing in a bar. Scrivener7 Aug 12 #58
We don't KNOW he was in a bar underpants Aug 12 #60
CNBC: "violent crime there has fallen to a 30-year low as of January, according to the U.S. Department of Justice." progree Aug 11 #21
Many one of the country's top-notch reporters will get the answers we need democrank Aug 11 #22
Trump thinks like a criminal and acts like a criminal because he IS a criminal. hadEnuf Aug 11 #23
Emperor Pedo the 1st has no clothes. Dave Bowman Aug 11 #24
Was Epstein informing on Trump? Hmmm... AntiFascist Aug 11 #25
Didn't this piece of shit also say "the police can now do whatever the hell they want!" Eliot Rosewater Aug 11 #26
Not Republicans. FASCISTS JCMach1 Aug 11 #29
Yes of course, good. But they are the Republican Party we have to use that word also Eliot Rosewater Aug 11 #31
People who don't operate on facts almost exclusively rely JCMach1 Aug 11 #41
Bump irisblue Aug 11 #27
You got it dweller Aug 11 #28
No release if he can possibly help it. That's why we've got to keep pushing it. Initially allegorical oracle Aug 11 #32
That must be a rhetorical question. Fil1957 Aug 11 #33
The Marines need to live their oath BidenRocks Aug 11 #35
In a month of two, Trump will repeat the same crime figures we now have and claim credit for reducing crime. surfered Aug 11 #36
Reminds me of his job interview. Emile Aug 11 #37
Because he didn't succeed at running that company down for Putin the first time. Justice matters. Aug 11 #46
No, but putting the DC cops under his control would prevent him from being arrested mahina Aug 11 #38
So, is it being considered that he couldn't fit all the top secret documents he has stolen 1WorldHope Aug 11 #39
Also, as Brian Tyler Cohen posted... SunSeeker Aug 11 #42
Welcome to...The Twilight Zone moondust Aug 11 #43
Our government is now the personal property of Rupert Murdoch, apparently. Initech Aug 11 #47
K & R berniesandersmittens Aug 12 #48
Trump pardoned those people, even those that Johonny Aug 12 #49
Is there a membership level where we get to double click a rec??? marble falls Aug 12 #51
He might be doing this as a precaution... If the files are released against his will, ecstatic Aug 12 #54
That's right. Let's keep our eyes on the ball mcar Aug 12 #56
NEVER FORGET -- when the National Guard WASN'T called, and that he lied when he said he couldn't. LetMyPeopleVote Aug 12 #57
Donald Trump is... ZDU Aug 12 #59
This is the only question the press should ask happy feet Aug 12 #61
Whatever he did on that island was BAD - he has completely lost his mind. nt TBF Aug 12 #62

unblock

(55,578 posts)
1. nothing like a 34-count convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, serial defamer, found in contempt of court 11(?) times,...
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 02:08 PM
Aug 11

Last edited Mon Aug 11, 2025, 11:56 PM - Edit history (1)

never mind all the further crimes and mayhem and corruption and abuses of office and power he's be accused of...


... being in charge of law and order.

GoCubsGo

(34,243 posts)
3. Nah, it's the same shit he pulled in Los Angeles.
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 02:28 PM
Aug 11

He's looking for an excuse to institute martial law, and he's hoping to instigate violence to give himself a reason to do so. He's hoping to goad any protesters into rioting. It didn't work in L.A., so he's moving on to another big city with a black lady for a mayor, because he's a racist fuck on top of it all. No doubt he wants them riot so that the police and military will mow them all down, too.

The only thing he's afraid of is that whatever he's trying to hide regarding his relationship with Jeffery Epstein becomes public.

Hekate

(99,249 posts)
13. That's how I see it. Hey, if he starts Civil War 2 we won't be talking about Epstein & Maxwell any more.
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 02:54 PM
Aug 11

Magoo48

(6,594 posts)
19. Good point
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 03:41 PM
Aug 11

Depending on push back, or acquiescence, this fascist move will be either disturbing or a public-galvanizing failure.

Justice matters.

(8,819 posts)
44. We can walk (talk) and chew gum at the same time,
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 11:25 PM
Aug 11

and keep the pressure on his Fascist regime until it will fall in disgrace.

IronLionZion

(49,784 posts)
4. Typical tourist behavior
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 02:28 PM
Aug 11

to distract from the Epstein files. Dude is looking so guilty. His goons have probably destroyed the files by now.

Justice matters.

(8,819 posts)
45. There are always the possibility of duplicates
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 11:28 PM
Aug 11

somewhere they have no idea where, which could prevent them from even trying. (pedofelon's life could end anytime and his cult would not survive to protect any potential criminal covering up).

Warpy

(113,877 posts)
6. White guy, DOGE traitor, got his ass stomped
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 02:35 PM
Aug 11

in what was reported to be an attempted carjacking (yeah, right, the poor lad) and now King Fatberg is calling up the military to rid "his" city of homeless people, although there is no proof they had any part in the purported ass stomping.

But yes, this is still unlikely be be news so massive that it will drown out anything that is in Epstein's remaining paperwork because we all know that paperwork will never see the light of day until his client list have all gone on to their eternal rewards in comfort, surrounded by still loving family.

He's hoping his fan club won't notice. He's probably right.

generalbetrayus

(1,180 posts)
8. Tiny Balls Trump stands up for Big Balls.
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 02:40 PM
Aug 11

Who says Orange Julius Caesar has no compassion for others?

erronis

(21,166 posts)
12. It's a total inversion of what should be. NewSpeak, alternative facts, L'etat, c'est moi.
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 02:50 PM
Aug 11

Living inside of this transforming beast is difficult to see what is happening. I'm guessing that the astute observers on the outside can watch the horror and understand more clearly.

Uncle Joe

(63,035 posts)
14. and he's kicking out the homeless while condemning low income housing with his Attorney General
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 02:56 PM
Aug 11

standing there proudly wearing her cross.

It must just be a fashion statement with Bondi that "looks pretty," as *rump's vision of D.C. would be once they kick out "the least of these."

Thanks for thread EarlG

Brainfodder

(7,701 posts)
16. Hey Earl! What you doing still talking about THE JEFFREY EPSTEIN FILES, Trump said he was BFF and a nice guy & ....
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 03:24 PM
Aug 11

Only dropped his fellow pedo because he stole his underage womenfolk from under him?

Like every upstanding pedo, come on man!

PEDO is in with them!

Show us the list so we can rattle off those upstanding PEDO names!!!!!


upstanding.... muhahaha!






CaptainTruth

(7,870 posts)
18. You got it, & it all makes me mad as hell.
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 03:41 PM
Aug 11

Trump is trying to turn America into a lawless shithole & I'm effing mad as hell about it.

He needs to be stopped & I no longer care how. America is under attack, we are at war & we need to fight to save our country.

North Coast Lawyer

(163 posts)
20. "Big Balls" is a pussy
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 03:56 PM
Aug 11

"Big Balls" went running to his Daddy when he go beat up by a teenage girl.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,311 posts)
50. Did Mr Balls get beat up at all? Or was that some leftover fake blood from Butler, PA?
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 08:45 AM
Aug 12

If he was actually beat up, I'd guess it was not a carjacking. More likely he mouthed off to the wrong person.

Is Mr Balls still employed by the government?

underpants

(192,575 posts)
52. He got his ass whooped. 3 AM.
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 09:06 AM
Aug 12

From what I’ve read he got his girlfriend in the car then he got beat up. He was jumped for sure. At that point if they’d wanted to take the car, they could have.

underpants

(192,575 posts)
55. Oh that explains it. They didn't have their licenses yet.
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 09:55 AM
Aug 12

Don’t want to get in trouble.

Scrivener7

(56,993 posts)
58. Which brings up the question of what the underage DOGE child was doing in a bar.
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 10:49 AM
Aug 12

He was 19 or 20. The drinking age is 21.

underpants

(192,575 posts)
60. We don't KNOW he was in a bar
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 11:06 AM
Aug 12

He was just out until 3 AM.

Depends on the bar. They may card and wristband or stamp people.

progree

(12,264 posts)
21. CNBC: "violent crime there has fallen to a 30-year low as of January, according to the U.S. Department of Justice."
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 03:57 PM
Aug 11

Trump puts Washington, DC, police under federal control, deploys National Guard, CNBC, 8/11/25
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/watch-trump-puts-washington-dc-police-under-federal-control-deploys-national-guard/ar-AA1Kj70M

democrank

(11,727 posts)
22. Many one of the country's top-notch reporters will get the answers we need
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 04:01 PM
Aug 11

Surely Fox News is hot on Trump’s trail. If that doesn’t work out, there’s always CBS….ABC….

If Trump wants to be known as The Anti-Crime president, maybe the Highly Qualified Bondi/Patel/Miller team can grab some Sharpies and show The Best President Ever the connection between DC crime and January 6ers.

hadEnuf

(3,369 posts)
23. Trump thinks like a criminal and acts like a criminal because he IS a criminal.
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 04:03 PM
Aug 11

If you think about it in those terms, what he does makes more sense.

Eliot Rosewater

(33,822 posts)
26. Didn't this piece of shit also say "the police can now do whatever the hell they want!"
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 04:30 PM
Aug 11

How in the fuck can you fucking Republicans reading this continue to fucking support this.

I hate you I hate every one of you, but if you don’t support it then that’s great and you are welcome to join us.

Eliot Rosewater

(33,822 posts)
31. Yes of course, good. But they are the Republican Party we have to use that word also
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 05:05 PM
Aug 11

And hopefully some of the idiots out there will remember it when it comes time to vote.

JCMach1

(28,915 posts)
41. People who don't operate on facts almost exclusively rely
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 09:38 PM
Aug 11

On similitude to organize their universe. Without reframing they will continue to see the similitude between the Republican title, what is now and the past.


Change would require thought that they are not particularly familiar with.

dweller

(27,032 posts)
28. You got it
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 04:46 PM
Aug 11

Narratively speaking, the tightest ending to this screenplay is probably the freed J6 protestors storming the White House to demand the release of the Epstein files …
Franklin Leonard


✌🏻

allegorical oracle

(5,651 posts)
32. No release if he can possibly help it. That's why we've got to keep pushing it. Initially
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 05:16 PM
Aug 11

feared that there would be some mention of Clinton in the files, but have decided there must not be much. Otherwise Pam, Kash, and the gang would've surely released it.

BidenRocks

(2,101 posts)
35. The Marines need to live their oath
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 05:43 PM
Aug 11

Do a military Coup and restore democracy. All enemies foreign and DOMESTIC!
We laughed about the domestic part. We never realized in 1973 it could get this bad.

The entire cabinet, especially Miller are jailed.

Perform a forensic audit of the treasury to show magats where the money went!

Outlaw maga as an un-American activity.

Deep breath, unload and smile again!

surfered

(8,902 posts)
36. In a month of two, Trump will repeat the same crime figures we now have and claim credit for reducing crime.
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 05:55 PM
Aug 11

His playbook: create a problem that doesn’t exist, then claim credit for fixing the problem that didn’t exist.

Justice matters.

(8,819 posts)
46. Because he didn't succeed at running that company down for Putin the first time.
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 11:45 PM
Aug 11

In spite of his criminal management of the pandemic, he didn't crush it down without a shred of it coming back from total destruction for Putin and Kim Jung.

And since the company failed to hold him accountable, he came back to finish the job until the day he'll die, while robbing a few billions out of it for himself and his corrupt offspring.

mahina

(20,029 posts)
38. No, but putting the DC cops under his control would prevent him from being arrested
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 07:24 PM
Aug 11

When the Epstein files are finally released

Aloha Earl G

1WorldHope

(1,553 posts)
39. So, is it being considered that he couldn't fit all the top secret documents he has stolen
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 08:51 PM
Aug 11

into Ivanka's casket, and now he is making a mafia move and paving over a bunch more under the rose garden slab? If there are even more documents he could put in the bases of all the confederate statues he is resurrecting?
He isn't doing this shit alone. And there are few secrets that last forever.
Just thinking out loud.

SunSeeker

(56,536 posts)
42. Also, as Brian Tyler Cohen posted...
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 10:21 PM
Aug 11

But I was told by everyone on the right that the only person who could deploy the National Guard (or prevent the deployment of the National Guard) was Nancy Pelosi.

Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen.bsky.social) 2025-08-11T20:07:58.307Z

Johonny

(24,474 posts)
49. Trump pardoned those people, even those that
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 04:08 AM
Aug 12

Had committed crimes unrelated to Jan 6th. Several people who were pardoned have hence forth committed over violent crimes. Meaning he didn't even bother to do the basic protocol of checking the pardons background.

But none of this rule of law matters anymore. The criminal justice system isn't for law and order, but exists only to maintain the status quo.

America is dead, many Americans don't realize this fact

ecstatic

(34,898 posts)
54. He might be doing this as a precaution... If the files are released against his will,
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 09:45 AM
Aug 12

without the added bullshit that he's trying to inject into them, his own supporters might try to physically drag him out the White House.

mcar

(45,238 posts)
56. That's right. Let's keep our eyes on the ball
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 10:19 AM
Aug 12

When is the convict going to release the Epstein files?

ZDU

(704 posts)
59. Donald Trump is...
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 10:51 AM
Aug 12

... establishing his fortress within the District of Columbia and has zero intention of ever leaving his position. Future elections will be a sham or not be held. We have long, long passed the "constitutional crisis" phase... ugly, ugly, ugly... and worse

happy feet

(1,237 posts)
61. This is the only question the press should ask
Tue Aug 12, 2025, 12:51 PM
Aug 12

at every presser (except getting aid to Gaza and supporting Ukraine against Russia)

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