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pnwmom

(110,045 posts)
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:53 PM Jul 21

Ivana was a model from Czechoslovakia. Marla was a model from the US. Melania was a model from Slovenia.

Trump owned international modeling agencies and beauty contests, and many of the "women" were "on the younger side."

So he didn't need to use Epstein's international human trafficking skills; Trump had his own. He had all the young models he could want, and he even married a few of them.


From WallaWallaDemocrats:

Was Donald Trump Involved in the Procurement of Underage Girls?
Trump Model Management (1999–2017)

Trump launched his own modeling agency, Trump Model Management, in 1999. The agency targeted young, often foreign teenage girls and placed them in Trump-owned apartments while docking their pay with excessive fees.

Jamaican model Alexia Palmer alleged she was paid $4,000 over two years while the agency earned over $200,000 from her work.

Reports and insider testimony show the agency frequently misused tourist visas, allowing underage girls to work illegally.

This placed Trump in a position of financial and physical control over vulnerable teenagers brought to the U.S. under promises of fame.
https://www.wallawallademocrats.com/news/was-donald-trump-involved-in-the-procurement-of-underage-girls

More at link!

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Ivana was a model from Czechoslovakia. Marla was a model from the US. Melania was a model from Slovenia. (Original Post) pnwmom Jul 21 OP
I have long suspected Trump was one of Epstein's recruiters Skittles Jul 21 #1
Yep. And the donald has undoubtedly made sure that he gets his "cut". calimary Jul 21 #26
I tend to think he wanted Epstein for some of younger-than-allowed dates Torchlight Jul 21 #2
The modeling agency & beauty pageants involved girls as young as 14. I don't consider that to be a "young woman." nt pnwmom Jul 21 #4
I stand relieved in my ignorance of modeling and pagents. Torchlight Jul 21 #6
Different orgs have different rules. But I've read that both his modeling agency pnwmom Jul 21 #15
Gold diggers who FA and FO. Irish_Dem Jul 21 #3
And desperate young teens seeking a way out of poverty. nt pnwmom Jul 21 #5
Ages when they married Trump: Ivana 28 yrs old, Marla 30 yrs old, Melania 35 yrs old. Irish_Dem Jul 21 #7
They may have been older. But many victims were children. 33taw Jul 21 #9
The topic of the OP is TRUMP WIVES. Irish_Dem Jul 21 #12
No, that's not the topic. Everyone else understood it correctly. Those 3 were just the tip of the iceberg -- pnwmom Jul 21 #14
Those are the 3 he married. He had access to countless others, including teenagers. nt pnwmom Jul 21 #11
The fact that they were mature women gave him cover. There's no way that a allegorical oracle Jul 21 #18
Right. The modeling agency and pageants gave him cover, and so did the 3 wives. pnwmom Jul 21 #22
Epstein was a mental case. No sane woman would've married him. He was obsessed by some allegorical oracle Jul 21 #29
Trump got 3 women to marry him. Wealth can overcome reason. nt pnwmom Jul 21 #30
Gold-diggers? They were children who were exploited by people they thought would pull them out of poverty 33taw Jul 21 #8
This post is talking about TRUMP's WIVES. Irish_Dem Jul 21 #10
No, I began with them because that's all most of the public knows. However, pnwmom Jul 21 #13
Children who find out that you can't trust adults. 1WorldHope Jul 21 #23
Way to go Walla Walla Dems!! progressoid Jul 21 #16
I was impressed with it, too. Who are these people? They're doing a great job. nt pnwmom Jul 21 #17
IKR! progressoid Jul 21 #20
Ivana is on Epstein's contact list that was released... AntiFascist Jul 21 #19
2 of 3 Soviet/Russian Assets from Eastern Bloc Captain Zero Jul 21 #21
Do you have sources for this? MadameButterfly Jul 21 #32
Melania makes me retch. Slovenia was part of Yugoslavia. PufPuf23 Jul 21 #34
What grown man would own a pageant for Buddyzbuddy Jul 21 #24
So Trump is a PIMP, too? WOW... rickyhall Jul 21 #25
Several years ago, when the Clinton Lewinsky affair was news, the press often referred to her as a woman/child. spike jones Jul 21 #27
A rapist & pedo in our house Pas-de-Calais Jul 21 #28
Trump puts the sleaze in sleazy Joinfortmill Jul 21 #31
Why did they marry him? Ping Tung Jul 21 #33

Torchlight

(5,364 posts)
2. I tend to think he wanted Epstein for some of younger-than-allowed dates
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:57 PM
Jul 21

Mr. trump could get young women. Epstein however, could get him younger girls.

pnwmom

(110,045 posts)
4. The modeling agency & beauty pageants involved girls as young as 14. I don't consider that to be a "young woman." nt
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:01 PM
Jul 21

Torchlight

(5,364 posts)
6. I stand relieved in my ignorance of modeling and pagents.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:06 PM
Jul 21

I don't consider 14 year olds to be young women as well. I'll avoid the convo to prevent any additional missteps on my part.

pnwmom

(110,045 posts)
15. Different orgs have different rules. But I've read that both his modeling agency
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:21 PM
Jul 21

and his beauty pageants involved girls as young as 14.

Irish_Dem

(73,298 posts)
7. Ages when they married Trump: Ivana 28 yrs old, Marla 30 yrs old, Melania 35 yrs old.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:11 PM
Jul 21

These were far from scared teenagers.

They knew exactly what they were doing.
And who and what Trump was.

Irish_Dem

(73,298 posts)
12. The topic of the OP is TRUMP WIVES.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:14 PM
Jul 21

Trump wives were not children when they met and married Trump.
It is absurd to say so.

pnwmom

(110,045 posts)
14. No, that's not the topic. Everyone else understood it correctly. Those 3 were just the tip of the iceberg --
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:20 PM
Jul 21

the ones he actually married. He had access to countless others, including teens, who he didn't bother to marry.

pnwmom

(110,045 posts)
11. Those are the 3 he married. He had access to countless others, including teenagers. nt
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:14 PM
Jul 21

allegorical oracle

(5,601 posts)
18. The fact that they were mature women gave him cover. There's no way that a
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:35 PM
Jul 21

sensible, mature woman would NOT be aware that she's married to a sexual pervert. Through him they were wealthy and comfortable. In Melania's case, her parents became U.S. citizens. The marriages were a symbiotic relationship.

pnwmom

(110,045 posts)
22. Right. The modeling agency and pageants gave him cover, and so did the 3 wives.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:51 PM
Jul 21

Epstein might have stayed under the radar longer if he'd had the cover provided by marriage.

allegorical oracle

(5,601 posts)
29. Epstein was a mental case. No sane woman would've married him. He was obsessed by some
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:22 PM
Jul 21

sexual obsession that involved children. He was a sick bastard.

33taw

(3,221 posts)
8. Gold-diggers? They were children who were exploited by people they thought would pull them out of poverty
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:11 PM
Jul 21

and potentially worse. This term does not seem right in this context. Please don’t blame the victims is this crime.

Irish_Dem

(73,298 posts)
10. This post is talking about TRUMP's WIVES.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:12 PM
Jul 21

They were all much older than young teens.

Ages when they married Trump:

Ivana 28 yrs old, Marla 30 yrs old, Melania 35 yrs old.

Calling them naive young teenagers is a lie and absurd.

pnwmom

(110,045 posts)
13. No, I began with them because that's all most of the public knows. However,
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:16 PM
Jul 21

no one's thinking about the access he had to countless teenagers and young women -- the models "on the younger side" -- through his modeling agencies and beauty pageants.

progressoid

(51,753 posts)
16. Way to go Walla Walla Dems!!
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:26 PM
Jul 21

That's a great post .

And a great website. Local sites aren't always well run or maintained but this looks great. I especially like the sweet onion in the logo!

progressoid

(51,753 posts)
20. IKR!
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:41 PM
Jul 21

I have been on that side of it and it's a grueling job for volunteers.

The WW site looks like they either have great people there, or perhaps a generous donor or two to pay for web/social media outreach.

AntiFascist

(13,626 posts)
19. Ivana is on Epstein's contact list that was released...
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:39 PM
Jul 21

along with Ivanka, Robert Trump (now deceased), Robert's wife Blaine, and Trump Management Inc. (in the unredacted version).

Captain Zero

(8,297 posts)
21. 2 of 3 Soviet/Russian Assets from Eastern Bloc
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:41 PM
Jul 21

Former Soviet Bloc have said so. Trained to infiltrate with men sexually in the West

Red Sparrows.

PufPuf23

(9,535 posts)
34. Melania makes me retch. Slovenia was part of Yugoslavia.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:55 PM
Jul 21

Yugoslavia was communist but Yugoslavia was an unaligned nation and specifically not part of the Soviet Bloc.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,347 posts)
24. What grown man would own a pageant for
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:39 PM
Jul 21

teen girls if not for the access. Really, is that where the big bucks are? (no pun intended)
He likes to own and compromise people. Bending people to his will excites him. Anybody that has criticized him must endure his wrath until they bend the knee and swear fealty to him. Just ask Rubio, Grahm, ABC,CBS, Columbia, numerous law firms, etc., etc., etc.

Teenage girls, so vulnerable, the ultimate aphrodisiac for his sick forever adolescent mind.

spike jones

(1,933 posts)
27. Several years ago, when the Clinton Lewinsky affair was news, the press often referred to her as a woman/child.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:03 PM
Jul 21

Then a few years later when the US Marine raped and killed the fifteen-year-old Afghanistan girl she was often referred as a young woman.
BTW before Lewinsky when to work in Washington DC, she told her friends that she was going to earn her presidential kneepads.

Ping Tung

(3,414 posts)
33. Why did they marry him?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:59 PM
Jul 21

Take your pick or add to the list:

1. They loved him.
2. They couldn't resist his good looks.
3. They fell for his intelligence.
4. They were attracted to his sculptured muscular body.
5. They were overwhelmed by his love-making skills.
6. They longed for a powerful golfer.
7. His dancing style made them swoon.
8. They were charmed by his melodious voice.
9 They admired his honesty. in all things.
10. He made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

Your turn.

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