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Black author recounts nightmare racism on vacation cruise (Original Post) orangecrush Jul 21 OP
"Authoress"? Ocelot II Jul 21 #1
Archaic orangecrush Jul 21 #7
And note that the video doesn't even call her that!!! yardwork Jul 21 #14
Any thoughts on the racism orangecrush Jul 21 #27
Corrected orangecrush Jul 21 #18
I don't usually watch videos so I'll have to take your word for it. Ocelot II Jul 21 #19
Ok thanks orangecrush Jul 21 #20
"Chuck and Stephanie from Alberta" dalton99a Jul 21 #2
I learned something new today Samael13 Jul 21 #3
Miriam Webster orangecrush Jul 21 #8
Modern usage is considered sexist obamanut2012 Jul 21 #22
Ok sorry orangecrush Jul 21 #28
There's no need for it. yardwork Jul 21 #16
It is, modern usage is considered sexist obamanut2012 Jul 21 #21
Summary! maveric Jul 21 #4
Woman gets told by Kevin and Karen orangecrush Jul 21 #9
Thats fucked up. maveric Jul 21 #12
Totally orangecrush Jul 21 #13
article: WhiskeyGrinder Jul 21 #5
Thank you orangecrush Jul 21 #10
"Author," exactly like the title of the video LearnedHand Jul 21 #6
Merriam Webster orangecrush Jul 21 #11
No one said anything diminutive orangecrush Jul 21 #15
It is by definition diminutive. yardwork Jul 21 #17
Agreed, Generally; Not Specifically ProfessorGAC Jul 21 #29
Thanks, Professor orangecrush Jul 21 #37
Modern usage of "authoress" is considered sexist -- why did you change author to authoress? obamanut2012 Jul 21 #23
Sorry orangecrush Jul 21 #26
The suffix -"ess" is attached to words representing the default, which is or was presumptively male, Ocelot II Jul 21 #24
Got it orangecrush Jul 21 #25
potato, poTAHto -bottom line B.See Jul 21 #30
Thank you JustAnotherGen Jul 21 #34
And with her Mom there orangecrush Jul 21 #36
Exactly. Didn't watch the video, but B.See Jul 21 #38
Exactly the point Reese Waters made orangecrush Jul 21 #39
Dang.....racist Canadians. I'm one of the first to ever type that phrase. 😁 Melon Jul 21 #31
I experienced JustAnotherGen Jul 21 #33
Of course JustAnotherGen Jul 21 #32
... orangecrush Jul 21 #35

orangecrush

(25,884 posts)
7. Archaic
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:32 PM
Jul 21

Miriam Webster


authoress
noun
au·​thor·​ess ˈȯ-th(ə rəs
somewhat old-fashioned
: a woman or girl who is an author

Ocelot II

(126,316 posts)
19. I don't usually watch videos so I'll have to take your word for it.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:55 PM
Jul 21

I clicked on the link only because of the use of the word "authoress."

Samael13

(47 posts)
3. I learned something new today
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 01:41 PM
Jul 21

I always thought author was a all inclusive term I didnt know there was a term specifically for women

orangecrush

(25,884 posts)
8. Miriam Webster
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:33 PM
Jul 21


authoress
noun
au·​thor·​ess ˈȯ-th(ə rəs
somewhat old-fashioned
: a woman or girl who is an author

yardwork

(67,343 posts)
16. There's no need for it.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:37 PM
Jul 21

There's no need to call people poetesses, authoresses, actresses, stewardesses, waitresses, or any of the other silly terms that imply that women are less than the standard.

orangecrush

(25,884 posts)
9. Woman gets told by Kevin and Karen
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:34 PM
Jul 21


That she has no business being in first class.

Accuse her of getting admission by sexual favors.

Karen kicks water in her face.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,403 posts)
5. article:
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 01:55 PM
Jul 21
https://travelnoire.com/toni-tone-cruise

In a pair of viral TikTok videos, British author Toni Tone recounted what she described as “the most racist encounter” of her life while vacationing on a Virgin Voyages cruise with her mother. The incident, which took place in a VIP area known as “Richard’s rooftop,” involved a couple who repeatedly questioned her presence in the exclusive section, complained to staff about her, and eventually resorted to splashing water in her face while laughing.

Despite having legitimate access to the area through special VIP cards, Toni faced escalating harassment that culminated in the female aggressor implying she had exchanged sexual favors for her cruise tickets. “I was in so much shock,” Toni explained in her video, describing how she refused to give her harassers the satisfaction of an emotional reaction despite the humiliation they attempted to inflict.

The confrontation began innocuously when an older man photobombed a picture Toni’s mother was taking of her. Shortly after, the man approached Toni and questioned how she gained access to the VIP area despite staff confirming she had proper authorization. The situation escalated when the couple realized complaints to staff wouldn’t result in Toni’s removal from the area.

Toni described how the couple, whom she called “Chuck and Stephanie” from Alberta, Canada, attempted to provoke a reaction from her that might justify her removal. When Toni entered the hot tub where they were sitting, the woman deliberately kicked water into her face while the couple laughed. They explicitly questioned how a Black woman could have legitimately accessed the VIP area.

LearnedHand

(4,848 posts)
6. "Author," exactly like the title of the video
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:02 PM
Jul 21

There is zero reason ever to diminish women’s importance by adding the -ess diminutive to their professional title.

orangecrush

(25,884 posts)
11. Merriam Webster
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:35 PM
Jul 21

authoress
noun
au·​thor·​ess ˈȯ-th(ə rəs
somewhat old-fashioned
: a woman or girl who is an author

ProfessorGAC

(73,764 posts)
29. Agreed, Generally; Not Specifically
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:17 PM
Jul 21

I completely agree that adding the "-ess" is archaic & unnecessary.
Nobody calls Gretchen Whitmer "Governess". She's called "Governor".
Nobody called Jane Byrne "Mayoress". They called her "Mayor".
Where we disagree is that it's diminutive.
Doggie is a diminutive of dog. Kitty is a diminutive of cat.
Authoress is gender specific (needlessly) but not diminutive.

orangecrush

(25,884 posts)
37. Thanks, Professor
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:17 PM
Jul 21

Usually if a term is deprecating, the dictionary will define it as such.

Still, I have no desire to offend anyone here, so I corrected it and will not use it.

obamanut2012

(28,671 posts)
23. Modern usage of "authoress" is considered sexist -- why did you change author to authoress?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:08 PM
Jul 21

Sexism and racism are both very, very appalling.

Ocelot II

(126,316 posts)
24. The suffix -"ess" is attached to words representing the default, which is or was presumptively male,
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:11 PM
Jul 21

to indicate the female exception to some jobs or statuses, e.g., author, actor, host, waiter, steward, poet, comedian. To indicate the female exception, the suffix "ess" (sometimes "enne" or "ine", e.g., "heroine," "comedienne" ) was used but is now discouraged as sexist.

B.See

(5,975 posts)
30. potato, poTAHto -bottom line
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:24 PM
Jul 21

a person had her cruise experience forever ruined by a pair of racist mfkrs who believed themselves entitled (as in PRIVILEGED) to question her legitimacy, based on the colour of her skin.

FUCK them..

B.See

(5,975 posts)
38. Exactly. Didn't watch the video, but
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:16 PM
Jul 21

the write up did state the male creep began the harassment by intentionally trying to spoil photos her Mom was taking of her.

If anything, it was they who should've been removed for the harassment.

She should sue the cruise liner, if for no other reason than to obtain identifying information (via discovery) so the rest of the world can learn who these cretins are.

They didn't mind trying to embarrass, disparage her. Return the favour.

JustAnotherGen

(35,992 posts)
32. Of course
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:42 PM
Jul 21

DU is focused on language usage instead of the fact that these two nasty *word 😃alerted at DU* fucking racists think their shit doesn't think.

I hope they both *tos violation*.

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