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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn 1933, Eleanor Roosevelt and Amelia Earhart left a White House dinner
after Eleanor said shed never been on a night flight. They commandeered a twin engine plane and Amelia flew them to Baltimore in their evening gowns.
stolen from a substacker who posts about Badass Women in History.
https://substack.com/@kerrychaput/note/c-120958829?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=1uz6fn

Diamond_Dog
(37,176 posts)niyad
(123,998 posts)BOSSHOG
(42,579 posts)Would be a very, very long post. Thank God (Bless her Heart) for Badass Women.
Shellback Squid
(9,404 posts)on edit, is this slightly misogynistic?
speak easy
(11,575 posts)No. If you've got it. flaunt it.
whathehell
(30,162 posts)this be construed as 'slightly misogynistic'? ..Asking for a friend.
stopdiggin
(13,802 posts)something considered exceptional only because done by a woman.
And this would kind of fit that bill.
I, personally, still think that misses the definition of misogyny. But we tend to throw an awful lot of labels around these days. (and sometimes with a deal of creativity and expansion .. ?) So - poster might be entertaining legitimate question?
whathehell
(30,162 posts)I agree that it misses the definition of misogyny. At best, it might be seen as 'sexist' which, imo, is much less intense and hateful.
In any case, this involved two women from almost a century ago, so it's hard to apply the same standards.
stopdiggin
(13,802 posts)And certainly time and perspective - are greatly changed. At the same time, that has hardly stopped us from applying labels and standards to things that happened far in the past. (and I'm not sure that it should ... although it can lead to some misreading and misinterpretation.)
Any event - the poster referenced was singing praises - and in this case (Amelia and Eleanor) there is no reason to step back from that take.
Shellback Squid
(9,404 posts)calimary
(86,503 posts)mountain grammy
(27,844 posts)Love this. Thanks for posting.
babylonsister
(172,106 posts)that picture is adorable. They look so happy!
BOSSHOG
(42,579 posts)babylonsister
(172,106 posts)

magicarpet
(18,341 posts)...... only when you are being naughty do you smile like that. Gotta have fun sometimes.
Javaman
(63,906 posts)she would have been a mover and a shaker in the world and not just in flying. she was one remarkable woman.
Check out the book:
Fly Girls: How Five Daring Women Defied All Odds and Made Aviation History
by Keith O'Brien
highplainsdem
(56,321 posts)Smithsonian page: https://pioneersofflight.si.edu/content/amelia-earhart-and-eleanor-roosevelt-flying-washington-dc-baltimore
Wikipedia on what was probably the type of plane they took: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_T-32_Condor_II
The Condor II was a 1933 two-bay biplane of mixed construction with a single vertical stabilizer and rudder, and retractable landing gear. It was powered by two Wright Cyclone radial engines. The first aircraft was flown on 30 January 1933 and a production batch of 21 aircraft was then built. The production aircraft were fitted out as 12-passenger luxury night sleeper transports. They entered service with Eastern Air Transport and American Airways, forerunners of Eastern Air Lines and American Airlines, respectively, on regular night services for the next three years. The June 15, 1934, American Airlines system timetable marketed its Condors as being "The World's First Complete Sleeper-Planes" with these 12-passenger aircraft being equipped with sleeper berths and also being capable of cruising at 190 miles per hour.[1]
Wednesdays
(20,518 posts)They didn't have but a few gauges on the plane, and few, if any, lights on the ground at the runway. And very limited help from the control tower, if there was even any help at all.
electric_blue68
(21,589 posts)TNNurse
(7,339 posts)have given it as a gift several times.
electric_blue68
(21,589 posts)DFW
(58,157 posts)These days, a flight from Washington to Baltimore would have to make final landing preparations before even taking off.
SheltieLover
(68,808 posts)
Passages
(2,822 posts)Wish they were here now!
Martin68
(25,864 posts)iluvtennis
(21,228 posts)Vinca
(52,123 posts)twodogsbarking
(13,828 posts)Snackshack
(2,543 posts)If I recall rt. from the K. Burns documentary on the Roosevelts, Elanor Roosevelt as 1st Lady traveled around the country in a car without much security (if any) except for a friend + a revolver in her glove box during the Depression to build support for FDRs programs.
She was an amazing human.
wendyb-NC
(4,282 posts)I'm glad I learned that. Both are great women, reading that makes the great like Super Heroes, they really were. Thanks for posting that, made my day.
calimary
(86,503 posts)Dressed for success of the MOST sublime kind!
NameAlreadyTaken
(2,020 posts)My grandparents lived in Chevy Chase, Maryland and belonged to the National Geographic Society and went to all their monthly luncheons. One time my grandfather was too ill to go to the luncheon, so my grandmother took my Dad with her. He was 14 at the time I believe. The guest speaker that time was Amelia Earhart. This was around 1933 or 1934. After the luncheon, my Dad and grandmother came across Amelia Earhart and Eleanor Roosevelt in a hallway. My grandmother mustered up her social skills and introduced them to her and my Dad. They had a polite conversation for a few minutes. My Dad recalled this story to much later, in the 1980s I believe. Her remembered it as one of his best memories of his youth. He himself later went on to become a pilot in the U.S. Marine Corps.
Kaleva
(39,434 posts)Its nice to read about these small but still important bits of history
SocialDemocrat61
(4,682 posts)Starring Tina Fey and Amy Poehler. 😂