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BootinUp

(50,955 posts)
Wed May 28, 2025, 08:25 PM May 2025

In 1933, Eleanor Roosevelt and Amelia Earhart left a White House dinner

after Eleanor said she’d never been on a night flight. They commandeered a twin engine plane and Amelia flew them to Baltimore in their evening gowns.



stolen from a substacker who posts about Badass Women in History.
https://substack.com/@kerrychaput/note/c-120958829?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=1uz6fn

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In 1933, Eleanor Roosevelt and Amelia Earhart left a White House dinner (Original Post) BootinUp May 2025 OP
Love it! Diamond_Dog May 2025 #1
Thank you! niyad May 2025 #2
A post about Badass Women in History BOSSHOG May 2025 #3
Wow, daring duo Shellback Squid May 2025 #4
"is this slightly misogynistic?" speak easy May 2025 #12
In what way could whathehell May 2025 #21
poster was probably thinking excessive praise for stopdiggin May 2025 #23
Hi stopdiggin.. whathehell May 2025 #32
agreed, on all counts stopdiggin May 2025 #33
maybe being condescending, I was a little tipsy when I posted but the story is amazing, especially for the time Shellback Squid May 2025 #35
Daring duette, maybe? calimary May 2025 #30
Fantastic! mountain grammy May 2025 #5
You go, ladies! This made my heart sing, and babylonsister May 2025 #6
And just a tad badass! BOSSHOG May 2025 #7
Cheers to badasses!! babylonsister May 2025 #8
Those two ladies had big smiles,... magicarpet May 2025 #9
If Earhart had lived... Javaman May 2025 #10
From the Smithsonian: They were passengers, but both took the controls briefly. highplainsdem May 2025 #11
Knr UTUSN May 2025 #13
And night flying in 1933 was no easy task compared to now Wednesdays May 2025 #14
Children's Book: Amelia and Eleanor Go For A Ride electric_blue68 May 2025 #15
Such a good book TNNurse May 2025 #18
Cool! electric_blue68 May 2025 #28
What a difference a century makes DFW May 2025 #16
Love it! SheltieLover May 2025 #17
Love it. Passages May 2025 #19
Wow! A great story about two powerful women. Martin68 May 2025 #20
Love it 😍😍. n/t iluvtennis May 2025 #22
That's amazing and something I never knew about before! Vinca May 2025 #24
Let's hear it for women. They are usually more fun than men. Be kind. There is a boomerang effect. twodogsbarking May 2025 #25
Mrs. Roosevelt was a Force of Nature. Snackshack May 2025 #26
Sweet wendyb-NC May 2025 #27
My kind of gals! calimary May 2025 #29
My Dad met them both once. NameAlreadyTaken May 2025 #31
Thanks for posting that! Kaleva May 2025 #36
They should make this into a movie SocialDemocrat61 May 2025 #34

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
3. A post about Badass Women in History
Wed May 28, 2025, 08:38 PM
May 2025

Would be a very, very long post. Thank God (Bless her Heart) for Badass Women.

stopdiggin

(15,034 posts)
23. poster was probably thinking excessive praise for
Thu May 29, 2025, 10:41 AM
May 2025

something considered exceptional only because done by a woman.
And this would kind of fit that bill.

I, personally, still think that misses the definition of misogyny. But we tend to throw an awful lot of labels around these days. (and sometimes with a deal of creativity and expansion .. ?) So - poster might be entertaining legitimate question?

whathehell

(30,357 posts)
32. Hi stopdiggin..
Fri May 30, 2025, 08:08 AM
May 2025

I agree that it misses the definition of misogyny. At best, it might be seen as 'sexist' which, imo, is much less intense and hateful.
In any case, this involved two women from almost a century ago, so it's hard to apply the same standards.

stopdiggin

(15,034 posts)
33. agreed, on all counts
Fri May 30, 2025, 11:24 AM
May 2025

And certainly time and perspective - are greatly changed. At the same time, that has hardly stopped us from applying labels and standards to things that happened far in the past. (and I'm not sure that it should ... although it can lead to some misreading and misinterpretation.)

Any event - the poster referenced was singing praises - and in this case (Amelia and Eleanor) there is no reason to step back from that take.

Shellback Squid

(9,869 posts)
35. maybe being condescending, I was a little tipsy when I posted but the story is amazing, especially for the time
Fri May 30, 2025, 04:49 PM
May 2025

magicarpet

(18,457 posts)
9. Those two ladies had big smiles,...
Wed May 28, 2025, 09:02 PM
May 2025

...... only when you are being naughty do you smile like that. Gotta have fun sometimes.

Javaman

(65,113 posts)
10. If Earhart had lived...
Wed May 28, 2025, 09:15 PM
May 2025

she would have been a mover and a shaker in the world and not just in flying. she was one remarkable woman.

Check out the book:

Fly Girls: How Five Daring Women Defied All Odds and Made Aviation History

by Keith O'Brien

highplainsdem

(60,008 posts)
11. From the Smithsonian: They were passengers, but both took the controls briefly.
Wed May 28, 2025, 09:49 PM
May 2025

Smithsonian page: https://pioneersofflight.si.edu/content/amelia-earhart-and-eleanor-roosevelt-flying-washington-dc-baltimore

Amelia Earhart and Eleanor Roosevelt flying from Washington, DC, to Baltimore in 1933. Both Earhart and Roosevelt (who had applied for a student pilot license) briefly took the controls of the Eastern Air Transport Curtiss Condor.



Wikipedia on what was probably the type of plane they took: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_T-32_Condor_II

The Curtiss T-32 Condor II was a 1930s American biplane airliner and bomber aircraft built by the Curtiss Aeroplane and Motor Company. It was used by the United States Army Air Corps as an executive transport.

The Condor II was a 1933 two-bay biplane of mixed construction with a single vertical stabilizer and rudder, and retractable landing gear. It was powered by two Wright Cyclone radial engines. The first aircraft was flown on 30 January 1933 and a production batch of 21 aircraft was then built. The production aircraft were fitted out as 12-passenger luxury night sleeper transports. They entered service with Eastern Air Transport and American Airways, forerunners of Eastern Air Lines and American Airlines, respectively, on regular night services for the next three years. The June 15, 1934, American Airlines system timetable marketed its Condors as being "The World's First Complete Sleeper-Planes" with these 12-passenger aircraft being equipped with sleeper berths and also being capable of cruising at 190 miles per hour.[1]

Wednesdays

(21,591 posts)
14. And night flying in 1933 was no easy task compared to now
Wed May 28, 2025, 11:08 PM
May 2025

They didn't have but a few gauges on the plane, and few, if any, lights on the ground at the runway. And very limited help from the control tower, if there was even any help at all.

DFW

(59,736 posts)
16. What a difference a century makes
Thu May 29, 2025, 01:59 AM
May 2025

These days, a flight from Washington to Baltimore would have to make final landing preparations before even taking off.

twodogsbarking

(17,580 posts)
25. Let's hear it for women. They are usually more fun than men. Be kind. There is a boomerang effect.
Thu May 29, 2025, 12:45 PM
May 2025

Snackshack

(2,573 posts)
26. Mrs. Roosevelt was a Force of Nature.
Thu May 29, 2025, 01:36 PM
May 2025

If I recall rt. from the K. Burns documentary on the Roosevelts, Elanor Roosevelt as 1st Lady traveled around the country in a car without much security (if any) except for a friend + a revolver in her glove box during the Depression to build support for FDRs programs.

She was an amazing human.

wendyb-NC

(4,604 posts)
27. Sweet
Thu May 29, 2025, 02:51 PM
May 2025

I'm glad I learned that. Both are great women, reading that makes the great like Super Heroes, they really were. Thanks for posting that, made my day.

NameAlreadyTaken

(2,235 posts)
31. My Dad met them both once.
Thu May 29, 2025, 07:39 PM
May 2025

My grandparents lived in Chevy Chase, Maryland and belonged to the National Geographic Society and went to all their monthly luncheons. One time my grandfather was too ill to go to the luncheon, so my grandmother took my Dad with her. He was 14 at the time I believe. The guest speaker that time was Amelia Earhart. This was around 1933 or 1934. After the luncheon, my Dad and grandmother came across Amelia Earhart and Eleanor Roosevelt in a hallway. My grandmother mustered up her social skills and introduced them to her and my Dad. They had a polite conversation for a few minutes. My Dad recalled this story to much later, in the 1980s I believe. Her remembered it as one of his best memories of his youth. He himself later went on to become a pilot in the U.S. Marine Corps.

Kaleva

(40,184 posts)
36. Thanks for posting that!
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:20 PM
May 2025

It’s nice to read about these small but still important bits of history

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