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[oasis]

1. Bookmarking for Boycotts

[Cha]

2. "VAnity Fair". WTH were they Thinking?!!

TY, JV.. Bookmarked..

No Kings Hands Off! 💙🌈

[VTderry]

15. I think that must be the paper napkins or the bras, not the magazine.

But, per the Snopes link shared below, the list might not be accurate.

[Celerity]

23. The list is very flawed, completely unreliable, and long debunked here. The OP is misinformation, simple as that.

It is based off the old Goods Unite Us crap app.

See the multiple replies in this very OP thread that deal with this.

cheers,

Cel

[chowder66]

3. Here is an article that reviewed this list

Or some version of it. Snopes dug into it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/breaking-down-list-alleging-companies-140000598.html

[kkmarie]

6. I like the breakdown

I like the breakdown that snopes did.
Thanks

[chowder66]

44. You're welcome.

[Hekate]

11. Thank you. I like to aim my ire accurately -- it's more productive that way.

[chowder66]

45. Agreed.

[Easterncedar]

20. Thanks. This is helpful.

[chowder66]

46. You're welcome. I thought so as well.

[mnhtnbb]

22. Very helpful. Snopes does good work

Investigating rumors/claims like this one.

[chowder66]

47. They do. It would take a long time going through opensecrets so I'm glad they did the work.

[liberalla]

38. Good to know! Thank you so much!

[chowder66]

43. You're welcome.

[C Moon]

4. Oh my. Some of them I can understand, but others are crazy!

The Angels baseball team?
Most of the companies look very old—I didn't know some of them still existed.
I will study this list, and change my spending accordingly.

Thanks!

[Celerity]

7. the list is bollocks in many cases nt

[Celerity]

5. oh ffs, this list (and to top it off you did not even post a link) has been debunked for ages, please self-delete

[JohnSJ]

16. Absolutely. A lot of those companies in that list always donate to BOTH candidates in an election, which

is just to cover both bases.

However, those companies which exclusively just donated to trump one could say do have a political agenda.

[Celerity]

17. the list also often uses individual employees' contributions, not the firms' corporate donations

[JohnSJ]

19. Thanks. Very misleading, and actually I think should be self-deleted.

[Celerity]

21. here is one of my old replies in another OP thread about this back in 2024

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219776816#post15

I looked up Urban Outfitters and the record does not back up the YT video claims for 2020, 2022, and 2024.

And yes, it is individuals, not the firm itself.

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/urban-outfitters/totals?id=D000030711

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/urban-outfitters/recipients?toprecipscycle=2024&id=D000030711&candscycle=2024

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/urban-outfitters/recipients?toprecipscycle=2024&id=D000030711&candscycle=2022

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/urban-outfitters/recipients?toprecipscycle=2024&id=D000030711&candscycle=2020

also

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219776816#post29

That app is cherry picking old data from OpenSecrets.

Paul Ryan has not run since 2016, for example.

In the last 3 cycles, 2020, 2022, and 2024, the vast majority of contributions from individuals at Urban Outfitters have went to Democratic candidates.

Also, it is problematic to cast blame on entire companies in general for the actions of some of their employees.

I am sorry, but I am going to have to give a hard pass to that app that list, and that video.

Cheers,

Cel

[blubunyip]

35. Check out Ace Hardware

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/ace-hardware/summary?id=D000042548

Unfortunately one of these Aces is convenient to my house. Are you saying I should ignore this?

--You appear to be saying that individual owners, stock holders and employees do NOT constitute a company.

Companies are now "individuals." OK, and they are individuals I'd rather not support.

[Celerity]

36. Major firms have a wide variety of political ideologies spread out within their employee population.

Most all of the firms have no legal control over what those disparate types do in terms of political support donations when they are off the clock.

As I stated back in 2024, it is problematic to cast blame on entire companies in general for the actions of some of their employees, especially when the firm has other employees of opposing political ideological stances that counterbalance, to varying degrees, employees on the other side.

Beyond all that, the list is just flat out flawed and inaccurate in other ways as well.

It's dodgy at the end of the day, full stop.

[blubunyip]

40. The disclaimer states

that the company consists of individuals (which I take to be stockholders or family or others with an interest), owners, and employees. If ANY of these people are listed under the company banner as contributing to Republicons or Project 2025, I won't support the company. That may be a purist litmus test to you, but I don't accept that I personally should support a "variety of political ideologies." One does NOT cancel the other out IMO. Certainly not now. There are some companies that support no political parties, which seems optimal. REI has certainly had a FAFO moment on the issues--thanks to boycotts. They do work.

We have to have some way to boycott. It is one of the few ways we consumers can speak as a group. What do you suggest we do, since you seem to support only the companies?

[Celerity]

42. I am going to side with logic and not give in to confirmation bias, but you do you

cheers

Cel

[blubunyip]

49. mmmkay

[TommieMommy]

8. Holy crap 😨

[Hekate]

9. Will be cross checking with the Snopes post. Thanks to both of you.

[Emile]

10. Molson Beer a Canadian company supported

Project 2025, why?

[genxlib]

24. They merged with Coors

The article sounds like bunk but Molson is at least partly an American company now.

From Wikipedia

On 30 October 2019, the Molson Coors Brewing Company announced it would change its name to Molson Coors Beverage Company as a part of a restructuring to take place in 2020.[15] The name change would reflect the company's growing focus on beverages outside of the traditional beer and brewing offerings. Additionally, the company would reorganize its global business units, including Molson Coors Canada, into Molson Coors North America, headquartered in Chicago, and Molson Coors Europe, headquartered in Prague.[16][17]

[Golfnbrew]

12. Goods Unite Us app

The app (Goods Unite Us) shows details for the companies they have, (somewhat incomplete, but growing) and you can see if they're neutral, red, or blue. Clicking on a company gives details about whom they supported, and if it was senior leadership, or the company itself.

[Celerity]

18. Goods Unite Us is a flawed app/source, and has been debunked here for some time

[JohnSJ]

14. I am not sure where you got that list, but there are a lot of companies in that list who donated to both

VP Harris and the trump to cover all there bases.

That always happens, and does not indicate they support one candidate over the other.

Now of course there are some companies exclusively donated to trump, and not to VP Harris, and alternatives should be considered against those companies.

[doc03]

25. A list of those that didn't would be shorter, I think...

[Callie1979]

26. Thus list makes no sense. How is it compiled? What data?

[subterranean]

27. See post #3 above.

[Callie1979]

33. Thanks! "Inaccurate & unreliable". Kinda what I expected.

[SheltieLover]

28. Kick!

Ty!

[CousinIT]

29. Bausch & Lomb - their AREDS formulas - you can get them cheaper at Walmart, which is also evil.

Anyone else have the generic AREDS2 formulas they can recommend?

[k_buddy762]

30. There are a lot of companies

on that list that I use, regularly

[ProfessorGAC]

31. Be Cautious About Accepting It

I find it so illogical I can't accept it at face value.
There are companies on there with CEOs that lean dem.

[blubunyip]

34. CEOS that "lean" Dem

.... I think it's time NOT to support the leaners, fence sitters, ass kissers and bothsider buffs.

I support those businesses that clearly did NOT contribute to this mess.

[ProfessorGAC]

39. Whatever

I find the list dubious.
Accepting it at face value and assuming a boycott target supported this tripe is potentially counterproductive.
Let me be clear. I don't believe this list.

[blubunyip]

41. Why is that

Do you have any specific reasons or evidence for your opinions?

How is it "tripe" to connect the dots between the actions of exploiters and us pigs at the end of the trough?

Pigs are flying and squealing. I see it as a good thing.

[k_buddy762]

37. I think most CEOs

put their ideologies aside and focus on making money for shareholders and employees, so they can get their annual bonuses and stock options bump....

[blubunyip]

32. I looked up some of these

For example:
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/hobby-lobby-stores/summary?id=D000051841

They have this disclaimer:

NOTE: "The organization itself did not donate, rather the money came from the organization's individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate family members."

OK so the INDIVIDUAL SHAREHOLDERS, OWNERS, EMPLOYEES, etc contributed to Project 2025's representatives. So what about this statement absolves the company? A company IS it's owners, supporters and managers, RIGHT?

Seems like weasel words to confuse the consumer and thwart a boycott.

I'm going to continue avoiding these companies unless someone has evidence that one or more of these companies did NOT contribute to the party that has wreaked havoc on this nation.

[pat_k]

48. I hope someone compiles a list of alternatives

.. e.g., seems every Oil and Gas Co with a station within a reasonable radius of me is on the list.

And damn, I just bought a bunch of stuff at Ace Hardware.