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riversedge

(79,176 posts)
Sun May 25, 2025, 11:56 AM May 2025

Nicholas Gilbert- a NY dairy farmer- truly believed that other countries would pay for the tariffs. Instead he received

well, trump has said other countries will pay the #Trumptariffs --or the company will.


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Nicholas Gilbert- a NY dairy farmer- truly believed that other countries would pay for the tariffs. Instead he received a Trump surcharge fees that he cannot pass on to consumers (because he belongs to a co-op.) His farm has gone bankrupt and will close in 2 months

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Nicholas Gilbert- a NY dairy farmer- truly believed that other countries would pay for the tariffs. Instead he received (Original Post) riversedge May 2025 OP
I'm sorry, it's sad to see this happen to anyone mountain grammy May 2025 #1
I feel as if this is a deliberate Trumpian plan to get people's farms. yardwork May 2025 #53
It's shocking to me that anyone is really ignorant enough to belive that. Autumn May 2025 #2
Especially Since... ProfessorGAC May 2025 #3
I will never understand how people think basic knowledge about malaise May 2025 #16
He apparently missed that he would have to pay fees as a co-op member. nt allegorical oracle May 2025 #51
One of the biggest mistakes people make is believing their own lies. usonian May 2025 #4
Live and learn the hard way, dude. republianmushroom May 2025 #5
Mexico paid for the southern border wall,... magicarpet May 2025 #54
If you "truly believe" easily and voluminously refuted nonsense, I cannot help you. RockRaven May 2025 #6
The Leopard is going to need some hairball remedy to go with that face. GoCubsGo May 2025 #7
That pic is not the NY farmer in question. It is a Fort Dodge Iowa Trumper from 2023. Celerity May 2025 #22
Iowa state flag Celerity May 2025 #26
riversedge needs to STOP spreading misinformation Brenda May 2025 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity May 2025 #40
I have checked and apparently a lot of people think the exporting nation pays the tariffs. Playingmantis May 2025 #8
Including some very intelligent, liberal-learning folks Ms. Toad May 2025 #38
If he believed that is because people like tapper completely ignored the JohnSJ May 2025 #9
The republicons have really suckered Americans this time BoRaGard May 2025 #10
FAFO, Nicholas, FAFO. Sogo May 2025 #11
If this idiot thought Trump gave any more shits about a NY dairy farm displacedvermoter May 2025 #12
But he would still vote Trump over "that woman" . JI7 May 2025 #13
A willfuly ignorant idiot Mysterian May 2025 #14
Blah away all you want, you're still going to lose the farm. I'm not going to say that it serves you right, but that SWBTATTReg May 2025 #15
I hope his cows find nice homes. He can join Rudy and Mike Lindell under the bridge. Vinca May 2025 #17
the farm, the home, the cows, the barns,.... ret5hd May 2025 #27
FAFO dumbo! Clouds Passing May 2025 #18
Somewhere, the most obese leopard is playing the tiniest of violins. n/t flvegan May 2025 #19
The US Fuck Reserve has been depleted for years. Buns_of_Fire May 2025 #20
👍 Rebl2 May 2025 #21
Maybe he's just shitty at business like his dear leader Buckeyeblue May 2025 #23
Farmer fooled by tariff talk? Upstate NY farmer stunned as Trump tariffs hit hard, admits he thought Canada, not U.S. fa riversedge May 2025 #24
He's a shitty business man JustAnotherGen May 2025 #58
We can't understand it for them hamsterjill May 2025 #25
Checking my supply of fucks.. Permanut May 2025 #28
Over-leveraged, protected by a co-op bucolic_frolic May 2025 #29
Farm Around and Find Out. To bad he's an idiot. dem4decades May 2025 #30
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps Nicky. Hassler May 2025 #31
To bad so sad, NOT. a kennedy May 2025 #32
You can't fix stupid. Aristus May 2025 #33
How much of this is true? sl8 May 2025 #34
I wish he wasn't that stupid. Iggo May 2025 #35
Thoughts and prayer, Nick. meadowlander May 2025 #36
Oh well bdamomma May 2025 #37
My thought is that NG looks Stupid in Cha May 2025 #41
That's not a picture of Gilbert. nt sl8 May 2025 #43
TY for the Correction.. Then whomever is Wearing it Cha May 2025 #45
Agreed. sl8 May 2025 #47
lol No Kidding! Cha May 2025 #48
Bootstraps; motherfu*ker... EarthFirst May 2025 #42
Leopard to the face sakabatou May 2025 #44
I have no shits to give edhopper May 2025 #46
Seinfeld Voice: 'That's a Shame'.... mackdaddy May 2025 #49
You need to remove that falsely attributed pic (see posts 22 and 26). Your OP is misinformation, something that Celerity May 2025 #50
It's terrible for the ones that voted against the Orange asshole and are still going to lose their farms. flying_wahini May 2025 #52
Actually, he is the businessman/seller whom Trump expects to eat the tariff rather than pass it on. Norrrm May 2025 #55
This is not new, it happened months ago. If it happened at all. Srkdqltr May 2025 #56
Boo hoo JustAnotherGen May 2025 #57

mountain grammy

(28,618 posts)
1. I'm sorry, it's sad to see this happen to anyone
Sun May 25, 2025, 11:58 AM
May 2025

but my question always is "who did you vote for?"

yardwork

(68,884 posts)
53. I feel as if this is a deliberate Trumpian plan to get people's farms.
Mon May 26, 2025, 09:10 AM
May 2025

I wonder who will buy this farm - and others like it that will be sold. A Chinese company, adding it to a huge agribusiness? A foreign company that will develop it for houses?

I read that an astonishingly large amount of real estate in the U.S. is owned by just a few huge companies.

Autumn

(48,717 posts)
2. It's shocking to me that anyone is really ignorant enough to belive that.
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:02 PM
May 2025

I don't care if he loses his farm. He got what he voted for.

ProfessorGAC

(75,682 posts)
3. Especially Since...
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:05 PM
May 2025

...it would take 5 seconds to look up how tariffs work.
But, cult members don't research anything after the leaders says whatever the leader says. Even they they claim to do their "own research".

malaise

(292,216 posts)
16. I will never understand how people think basic knowledge about
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:05 PM
May 2025

Issues that affect their lives can be ignored. This is basic high school shit.

usonian

(23,283 posts)
4. One of the biggest mistakes people make is believing their own lies.
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:07 PM
May 2025

But, you say, they were Trump's lies.

Well, there's a section of the brain, little used by many, that seeks truth, because not only can truth set you free, IT CAN PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING TAKEN TO THE CLEANERS.

That "other" part of the brain, that reacts to danger and fear, REAL OR IMAGINARY, often "wins"

Ohhhhhhhhhh, Thinking hurts.

magicarpet

(18,456 posts)
54. Mexico paid for the southern border wall,...
Mon May 26, 2025, 09:25 AM
May 2025

.... it did not cost AmeriKKKa one dime. 92% has been completed under the first trDUMP admin. , 8% remains to go up.

PREVARICATING LIAR !

Fuck off trDUMP.

RockRaven

(18,622 posts)
6. If you "truly believe" easily and voluminously refuted nonsense, I cannot help you.
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:09 PM
May 2025

Check the definition of tariff in any standard dictionary. It is very clear what a tariff is, it is a specific thing not some vague catchall term.

Check how tariffs worked (as in, who paid them and in what manner) the last time The Convicted Felon was POTUS. That information is publicly available. There you have recent historical evidence of the exact phenomenon in question.

If you won't "truly believe" the above evidence in favor of the mouth noises of TCF, there is nothing anyone else can say to stop you from destroying yourself.

GoCubsGo

(34,632 posts)
7. The Leopard is going to need some hairball remedy to go with that face.
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:10 PM
May 2025

If that is, indeed, the farmer in question.

I seriously cannot believe how many people don't understand how tariffs work. We have achieved The Idiocracy.

Celerity

(53,543 posts)
22. That pic is not the NY farmer in question. It is a Fort Dodge Iowa Trumper from 2023.
Sun May 25, 2025, 03:23 PM
May 2025
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/supporter-of-donald-trump-shouts-from-the-crowd-at-the-fort-news-photo/1790164335

Former President Trump Holds Campaign Rally In Fort Dodge, Iowa

FORT DODGE, IOWA - NOVEMBER 18: A supporter of Donald Trump shouts from the crowd at the Fort Dodge Senior High School on November 18, 2023 in Fort Dodge, Iowa. Former President Donald Trump spoke on various topics pertaining to things that happened during his term in office as well as current events. (Photo by Jim Vondruska/Getty Images)





Brenda

(1,930 posts)
39. riversedge needs to STOP spreading misinformation
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:28 PM
May 2025

Reposting something with the wrong image of the person the story is about is spreading disinformation.

Thought that was frowned upon here.

Response to Brenda (Reply #39)

Playingmantis

(525 posts)
8. I have checked and apparently a lot of people think the exporting nation pays the tariffs.
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:13 PM
May 2025

Stupidity and ignorance come with a cost..No tears from me!

Ms. Toad

(38,092 posts)
38. Including some very intelligent, liberal-learning folks
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:25 PM
May 2025

I have encountered.

The failure to/inability to do basic fact-checking is a serious and growing deficiency, and it isn't limited to the right wing. We may have different blind spots - but ours are just as real.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
9. If he believed that is because people like tapper completely ignored the
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:16 PM
May 2025

facts and were more concerned with destroying Biden’s legacy.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
10. The republicons have really suckered Americans this time
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:18 PM
May 2025

and they will sucker Americans again.

It's what they do.

displacedvermoter

(4,080 posts)
12. If this idiot thought Trump gave any more shits about a NY dairy farm
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:30 PM
May 2025

than he did for a Franklin County, Vermont dairy farm then he is stupid as Trump is and, like his Vermont counterpart, fully deserves the screwing he (they) have coming.

Mysterian

(6,141 posts)
14. A willfuly ignorant idiot
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:43 PM
May 2025

I have no pity for these gullible fools or any others who blindly follow a destructive, hateful ideology.

SWBTATTReg

(26,001 posts)
15. Blah away all you want, you're still going to lose the farm. I'm not going to say that it serves you right, but that
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:02 PM
May 2025

as a responsible businessperson, you truly should have been aware of who pays for these tariffs and not the nonsense that you believed. Now it's too late, and you sank the ship on your own dime, your own stupidity, your own actions. Not much to add to this, eh?

ret5hd

(22,125 posts)
27. the farm, the home, the cows, the barns,....
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:04 PM
May 2025

the milking equipment, the tractors, the silos…everything will be sold to a private equity firm.

that is the plan. that is what many don’t realize. the goal is for people…”meat”…to own nothing. No home, no music, no books, no car, no software, and especially no business.

you are a serf. you are a slave. if you perform adequately you will be allowed to survive. if not…

Buns_of_Fire

(18,975 posts)
20. The US Fuck Reserve has been depleted for years.
Sun May 25, 2025, 03:13 PM
May 2025

Now, we import most of our fucks -- and, with the new 100% tariff, they've gotten too expensive to give to every Tom, Dick, or Hairy who whines about his poor choices.

riversedge

(79,176 posts)
24. Farmer fooled by tariff talk? Upstate NY farmer stunned as Trump tariffs hit hard, admits he thought Canada, not U.S. fa
Sun May 25, 2025, 04:41 PM
May 2025



Farmer fooled by tariff talk? Upstate NY farmer stunned as Trump tariffs hit hard, admits he thought Canada, not U.S. farmers, would foot the bill

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/farmer-fooled-by-tariff-talk-upstate-ny-farmer-stunned-as-trump-tariffs-hit-hard-admits-he-thought-canada-not-u-s-farmers-would-foot-the-bill/articleshow/120410583.cms


Nicholas Gilbert, a dairy farmer from Potsdam, New York, is facing tough economic lessons in the middle of President Donald Trump’s ongoing trade war. Like many others in border towns, Gilbert assumed tariffs would be Canada’s problem—not his.


But when a recent livestock feed order from Ontario arrived, Gilbert was shocked to see it cost him $2,200 more than usual. The extra cost was due to tariffs, which he thought would be handled by the Canadian supplier. Instead, the bill landed squarely on his shoulders.

“I’m not even sure it’s legal!” Gilbert told The Atlantic. “We contracted for the price on delivery. If your pr ..

Unfortunately for Gilbert and many others, tariffs are legal—and they’re paid by American importers, not Canadian exporters.

Why did the farmer think Canada would pay the tariff?



Like many small business owners and farmers, Gilbert believed what President Trump has often repeated—that other countries would bear the brunt of the tariffs. But that’s not how the system works................

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimeUnfortunately for Gilbert and many others, tariffs are legal—and they’re paid by American importers, not Canadian exporters.

Why did the farmer think Canada would pay the tariff?

Like many small business owners and farmers, Gilbert believed what President Trump has often repeated—that other countries would bear the brunt of the tariffs. But that’s not how the system works.





Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/farmer-fooled-by-tariff-talk-upstate-ny-farmer-stunned-as-trump-tariffs-hit-hard-admits-he-thought-canada-not-u-s-farmers-would-foot-the-bill/articleshow/120410583.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppsts.com/news/international/us/farmer-fooled-by-tariff-talk-upstate-ny-farmer-stunned-as-trump-tariffs-hit-hard-admits-he-thought-canada-not-u-s-farmers-would-foot-the-bill/articleshow/120410583.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/farmer-fooled-by-tariff-talk-upstate-ny-farmer-stunned-as-trump-tariffs-hit-hard-admits-he-thought-canada-not-u-s-farmers-would-foot-the-bill/articleshow/120410583.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

hamsterjill

(16,912 posts)
25. We can't understand it for them
Sun May 25, 2025, 04:47 PM
May 2025

Sorry, not sorry. These people were corrected time after time after time and they chose to believe Trump over business leaders, economic experts, etc.

Let them deal with the consequences.

bucolic_frolic

(53,792 posts)
29. Over-leveraged, protected by a co-op
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:12 PM
May 2025

Didn't the co-op inform its members? It's sad, really, he voted against himself but changing his own vote would not have changed the election obviously. But he wasn't a great businessman if so exposed financially.

dem4decades

(13,582 posts)
30. Farm Around and Find Out. To bad he's an idiot.
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:20 PM
May 2025

And screw him, I'm sure his farmer buddies use immigrants to work their farms too. But fucking his buddies and those immigrant workers was fine till it bit him in the ass. Don't forget to wear your red hat to the foreclosure sale.

Hassler

(4,739 posts)
31. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps Nicky.
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:36 PM
May 2025

I'm sure Dollar General is hiring. IOW, FAFO. There are a lot of innocent people getting crushed because of his stoopid vote. They get my support, not Farmer Nicky

a kennedy

(35,191 posts)
32. To bad so sad, NOT.
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:41 PM
May 2025
and ya know…..I kinda like the idea of buy local!!!! Hate when some of the fruit I buy is not what my brain remembers from years ago……

Aristus

(71,536 posts)
33. You can't fix stupid.
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:44 PM
May 2025

I'll bet his cows are smarter than he is. And they give milk. So they have an actual purpose in life. I guess his only purpose in life is to serve as a bad example, and as a warning to others.

Enjoy bankruptcy and unemployment, dickhead...

sl8

(16,967 posts)
34. How much of this is true?
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:08 PM
May 2025

I've read the the Atlantic, Economic Times, and Syracuse.com articles from a month ago, and believe them, but they don't mention anything about his politics or impending bankruptcy. I haven't seen anything credible more recently than that.

The same fake picture seems to be attached to the same tweet & retweets that say he's now bankrupt or will be bankrupt in 1 or 2 months, but I've yet to see anything credible that mentions bankruptcy.

bdamomma

(69,134 posts)
37. Oh well
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:24 PM
May 2025

the person you voted for was NOT thinking about your livelihood just his. You were BS'ed by the biggest BS'er and so many fell for it.

mackdaddy

(1,934 posts)
49. Seinfeld Voice: 'That's a Shame'....
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:37 PM
May 2025

Maybe strive to understand how things work if they affect you directly?

Celerity

(53,543 posts)
50. You need to remove that falsely attributed pic (see posts 22 and 26). Your OP is misinformation, something that
Mon May 26, 2025, 09:02 AM
May 2025

is becoming increasingly common on DU as posters lean so heavily into dodgy social media for their sources.

flying_wahini

(8,244 posts)
52. It's terrible for the ones that voted against the Orange asshole and are still going to lose their farms.
Mon May 26, 2025, 09:09 AM
May 2025

The others, yawn.

Norrrm

(3,871 posts)
55. Actually, he is the businessman/seller whom Trump expects to eat the tariff rather than pass it on.
Mon May 26, 2025, 09:40 AM
May 2025

JustAnotherGen

(37,476 posts)
57. Boo hoo
Mon May 26, 2025, 10:03 AM
May 2025

When anti-Blackness, anti-Latino, anti LGBTI, and anti Religious Freedom bites you in the ass.

I'm a Trade Compliance Officer at a US Manufacturer who just aid 147.6 % tariff (15K) on a just under 6K dry box necessary to make Patriot Missiles *missile*.

I voted for Harris.

Fuck this guy and all the rest of the maga Repub voters that VOTED FOR THIS.


He did it to himself.

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