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Miles Archer

(19,463 posts)
Sun May 25, 2025, 11:25 AM May 25

Ron Johnson: "I think we have enough to stop the process until the president gets serious"

While on CNN's "State of the Union," the Wisconsin Republican told host Jake Tapper there are enough Republicans in the Senate willing to kill the bill presented by House Speaker MIke Johnson (R-LA) unless it undergoes a major re-write.

After excitedly detailing the many ways the bill, as it currently stands, will massively add to the national debt, Johnson was asked by host Tapper, "We're almost out of time, but I'm just wondering if you could just give me a number, how many other Republican senators do you think share your concerns and are willing to make work to make major changes to this bill?"

"I think we have enough to stop the process until the president gets serious about spending reduction and reducing the deficit," Johnson shot back.

At the same time that Johnson was on CNN, Sen Rand Paul (R-KY) was making the same case on Fox, telling host Shannon Bream, "Somebody has to stand up and yell, the emperor has no clothes, and everybody's falling in lockstep on this, passed the big, beautiful bill, don't question anything."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-serious/

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Ron Johnson: "I think we have enough to stop the process until the president gets serious" (Original Post) Miles Archer May 25 OP
The question that tapper will never ask, nor will most of the MSM, do you think that poor people shouldn't JohnSJ May 25 #1
Tapper asked Speaker Johnson that question about people losing foodstamps under the bill andym May 25 #8
Yes, he should have asked Johnson who is the one complaining about giving JohnSJ May 25 #12
Tapper is going to Tapper JustAnotherGen May 25 #19
The crazy part is the aid being cut helps the economy more than any wealthy tax cuts ever could IbogaProject May 25 #10
He'll JustAnotherGen May 25 #2
And once the big cash Russian bribes roll in along with the threats. Irish_Dem May 25 #4
Moscow Ron Johnson has yet to give Dr. T May 25 #15
His current pretend posturing is probably a ploy to get a bigger bribe. Irish_Dem May 25 #21
Yep. I can see the chyron. "Senate Hold-Outs Summoned To The White House." Miles Archer May 25 #7
Until Trump gets on the phone and leans on them. Then they will vote yes and squeal like little babies. Walleye May 25 #3
Tough talk for someone with no spine. Irish_Dem May 25 #5
If Johnson is serious, then between him, Paul, Collins and Murkowsi, thats enough to keep it from passing SSJVegeta May 25 #6
He's definitely serious. He's not voting for the bill without major changes to cut more spending Wiz Imp May 25 #14
Has anyone said anything about the name being B B B MacKasey May 25 #9
How about something totally unexpected? Fucking DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Paladin May 25 #11
Do you realize, his "do something" would be to completely eradicate Medicare, Medicaid & Social Security? Wiz Imp May 25 #16
I live in Wisconsin. Ron Johnson is a weak-kneed, Dr. T May 25 #13
It's just for show WestMichRad May 25 #17
This is the very reason the Administration announced recently, Buddyzbuddy May 25 #18
Be aware of what he wants misanthrope May 25 #20

JohnSJ

(98,811 posts)
1. The question that tapper will never ask, nor will most of the MSM, do you think that poor people shouldn't
Sun May 25, 2025, 11:33 AM
May 25

have health care or food stamps? Do we let the poor die and go hungry?

Ask them why not talk about taxing the wealthiest Americans, why cutting from programs that people HAVE PAID INTO ALL THEIR LIVES?

Why not raise the CAP on Social Security.

There are a lot of questions that no one in our illustrious media ever asks.

It's the elephant in the room.

My prediction, the rethugs will pass trump's boon doogle, and it will even be worse than the deplorable House plan.



andym

(5,980 posts)
8. Tapper asked Speaker Johnson that question about people losing foodstamps under the bill
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:41 PM
May 25

Speaker (not Ron) Johnson stated that Medicaid is not cutting anyone, just forcing 4.8 million single able-bodied men to work. No followup from Tapper though. It's the followup that's needed not just the questions.

JohnSJ

(98,811 posts)
12. Yes, he should have asked Johnson who is the one complaining about giving
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:07 PM
May 25

poor a helping hand.

IbogaProject

(4,462 posts)
10. The crazy part is the aid being cut helps the economy more than any wealthy tax cuts ever could
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:02 PM
May 25

The income multiplier is drastically higher for food stamps and medical aid than any giveaways to the wealthy. The wealthy shuffle their money in their inbred circle, rarely spending much where it helps the lower half. We have to change our messaging on this, the typical GOP voter cares not a whit for SNAP and Medicaid recipients but they might care that the wealthy won't help them. This isn't theoretical anymore every GOP administration over the last 100 years has caused recessions, often severe ones.

Dr. T

(246 posts)
15. Moscow Ron Johnson has yet to give
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:16 PM
May 25

a full and honest answer to the question of what he was doing in Russia over the 4th of July holiday in 2018.

He says he was there on a trade mission but he says it with the smirk of a proud liar.

Miles Archer

(19,463 posts)
7. Yep. I can see the chyron. "Senate Hold-Outs Summoned To The White House."
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:34 PM
May 25

If they have anything to lose, they'll fold.

Walleye

(40,710 posts)
3. Until Trump gets on the phone and leans on them. Then they will vote yes and squeal like little babies.
Sun May 25, 2025, 11:40 AM
May 25

SSJVegeta

(566 posts)
6. If Johnson is serious, then between him, Paul, Collins and Murkowsi, thats enough to keep it from passing
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:18 PM
May 25

"IF"

Wiz Imp

(5,209 posts)
14. He's definitely serious. He's not voting for the bill without major changes to cut more spending
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:12 PM
May 25

Collins and Murkowski's issues with the bill are completely different from Johnson and Paul's. When Johnson says he thinks they have enough to force the changes, he's not talking about Collins & Murkowski. He's implying that there other unnamed Senators who agree that significant additional cuts are needed. I don't necessarily believe him on that but I do completely believe he won't vote for the bill without the changes. There are still others with issues (Hawley and Moran for 2) that it pretty much guarantees changes will have to be made to the House passed version to get the 50 votes it needs in the Senate. It remains to be seen what changes will be made in order to get those 50 votes. I suspect they will make more minor tweaks on medicaid and other issues to get the hooldouts and Johnson & Paul will vote against the final bill.

MacKasey

(1,366 posts)
9. Has anyone said anything about the name being B B B
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:45 PM
May 25

Biden's Build Back Better was good!

Big Beautiful Bill is stupid

Paladin

(30,589 posts)
11. How about something totally unexpected? Fucking DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:03 PM
May 25

Talk is cheaper than ever, Ron Johnson. Same for you, Rand Paul.

Wiz Imp

(5,209 posts)
16. Do you realize, his "do something" would be to completely eradicate Medicare, Medicaid & Social Security?
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:16 PM
May 25

He wants to cut pretty much ALL government spending other than defense. As cruel as all other Republicans other, most are not stupid enough to make the significant cuts Johnson & Paul want - they know it would be political suicide.

Dr. T

(246 posts)
13. I live in Wisconsin. Ron Johnson is a weak-kneed,
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:08 PM
May 25

spineless, gutless Trump-humper who will never stand in Trump's way.

He's one of those multimillionaires who took a $250,000 per year gig as a US Senator so he could cut out the lobbiests and directly legislate his trickle down agenda. He's got no sense of service to his constituency. None.

Contrast that with Wisconsin’s other Senator, Tammy Baldwin. She is morally superior to Ron in every way. She fights as hard as she can to make the world a better place for all of us. She is worthy of the respect and trust of everyone she represents.

WestMichRad

(2,307 posts)
17. It's just for show
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:24 PM
May 25

They’ll “hold out” for a relatively minor change or two, then capitulate.

Or, they’ll designate one Senator “principled” and let him/her stand in opposition while the others vote in lockstep.

Buddyzbuddy

(929 posts)
18. This is the very reason the Administration announced recently,
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:32 PM
May 25

they have socked away $600 million to help during the midterms. It was announced just a day or two before the House Budget vote.
That is the carrot, the personal phone call from the Felon was the stick.

The Felon does not give money away, he only makes a lot of noise about giving money away. He gives away things that don't cost him anything, like appointments and positions.

misanthrope

(8,799 posts)
20. Be aware of what he wants
Sun May 25, 2025, 03:09 PM
May 25

He isn't saying it is too Draconian, only that it isn't Draconian enough.

Nor is he touching on the portions which facilitate "the unitary executive" powers that would make POTUS an out-and-out dictator.

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