We voted for Trump to fix the border, now we are milking cows alone at 4am."

[Swede]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/1kuia22/we_voted_for_trump_to_fix_the_border_now_we_are/

[displacedvermoter]

1. If you thought Trump gave two shits about Franklin County dairy farmers

you are as stupid as he is and deserve the screwing you are going to get.

[Bobstandard]

2. How rude! (I feel the same way) nt

[rubbersole]

17. I wonder if "mooo" sounds like "fafooout" at 4am...

[brush]

56. What happens if the cows don't get milked everyday?

[displacedvermoter]

59. They get sick, and they can stop producing, can even die I believe

[brush]

63. Has to be done everyday then. Dairy farmers have a big dilemna.

[getagrip_already]

68. Twice a day....

Once wont work with modern dairy cattle. 80# of milk a day is possible after birthing.

[brush]

69. God. Without help, the farmers can't continue to do that themselves.

[getagrip_already]

73. I used to work on a family run dairy farm....

The max we could handle with one farmer and one worker was about 60 cows.

That was grueling work. 4 am till about 7 or sundown, whichever was later. Two milkings a day. Grow corn and hay, harvesting each. Breeding and birthing. Keeping the cows healthy.

Todays herds number in the hundreds to thousands. It is highly automated, but you still need people to set up, run the milkers, move animals, and clean equipment between milkings.

Then there is manure management, and feeding.

Food goes in, shit and milk come out. You also need to breed and birth new calfs to keep the cows lactating.

A few people are not enough. Not even close.

[brush]

83. trump, musk, Miller...unintended consequences of their slash and burn shit show....

is going to bite them, and perhaps save us.

[getagrip_already]

91. I suspect this the law of intended consequences....

He wants to drive up food costs. Then if the poor riot he will have them gunned down.

[brush]

92. He will do that if he gets a chance. Kegsbreath will gladly comply with troops.

[NickB79]

94. That's why farmers had lots of kids

Extra hands to do labor.

Not so much anymore.

[NickB79]

93. Mastitis can set in

Milk ducts clog, get infected, and without serious antibiotics, the udder can go septic. I saw this happen once as a kid, it was horrific.

[Attilatheblond]

3. The few ranchers who still raise sheep are REALLY gonna be in a world of hurt

come shearing time.

[catchnrelease]

49. An interesting dilemma

I heard a discussion yesterday on the radio about how the tariffs are going to hurt so many small businesses, but one of the few that might come out better are sheep ranchers. The report was saying that the importing of wool from Australia at lower prices really undercuts the incomes of the Americans. BUT, you're right, if the US farmers can't get anyone to shear their sheep....it seems like they still won't come out ahead anyway.

And this reminds me that some ranching friends in Texas quit raising sheep several years go because of the difficulty in getting shearers to come to their ranch. There was too much competition for the few people still doing the shearing.

[Attilatheblond]

62. Lived in one of the few US counties where sheep are still raised. Shearing teams from Australia and New Zealand came

and the ranchers gave them a try. Ranchers did NOT like their work as they were usually hung over and not especially good with the sheep. To a one, they went back to the traveling bands of shearers from Mexico. Ranch wives especially did not like the teams from lands down under. Rude and not socially acceptable on family ranches. The local sheriff and deputy didn't much like the trouble they caused in the two local bars. It was a mess.

The shearing teams from Mexico were always polite, stayed out of the bars, and were especially gracious to the ranch wives who fed and housed them.

Raising sheep is really not financially profitable in the US today. But some die-hards do it because of tradition. I doubt the market for wool will get much bigger. There are years, decades, of unsold wool bales here and wool clothes are just not made here in any large degree. Even with market shifts due to tariffs (which are likely not to hold up in courts) there just isn't a market. And the meat? Sheep feeding on range plants are just not tasty.

[MadameButterfly]

84. I witnessed a sheep sheering in upstate NY

when Obama was running for th eDemocratic nomination. The sheerer noticed my campaign button and held forth on how much he hated the Clintons because Bill's removal of tarriffs had destroyed the wool industry in the US. Wool just wasn't profitable in the US anymore with foreign competition. He said the tarrifs had been put on during WWII so the US would have wool for soldier's uniforms without needing to import it. The tarrifss remained until Bill Clinton.

This was a few years back, of course, this sheep sheerer was old and he said it was hard to find apprentices. I doubt Trump tarriffs will revive the industry now. People don't plan careers around a despot playing president who changes his mind everydy and has no plan to support the industries he claims to protect. Nor is sheering sheep likely to seen as a viable alternative to the universities Trump is trying to destroy.

[yardwork]

4. Welp.

[sop]

5. This idiot actually thought they'd come for someone else's undocumented workers.

The guy should read Martin Niemöller:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out, because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out, because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out, because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for "the people who help us milk cows, now we're milking cows alone at 4:00 AM."

[FirstLight]

6. awwww..... the leopards ate your face...?

I guess it's one of those "nobody wants to work anymore" things, huh?

ugh...suffer, MAGA scum!

[choie]

26. Yea, nobody wants to work for $5 an hour.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

31. A little ironic you've got a Bernie avatar

when we are discussing this dairy farmer from Vermont.

Bernie would likely tell Dustin Machia exactly what you posted.

[displacedvermoter]

65. Friends and family know the Machia family

Franklin County is a hotbed of MAGA stupidity, dairy farmers have been poisoning Lake Champlain with toxic runoff and have been getting away with it for generations. They routinely vote down school and library budgets and look with scorn on parts of the state that offer more services, cultural diversity and tolerance of different ways of life.

The ignorance and selfishness of these folks has been an ongoing legacy, and their support of Trump is just another in an unbroken chain of stupidity and voting against their own best interests.

[Keepthesoulalive]

79. This is what I tell people

You are not going to reach these people, they don’t care about anything outside of their immediate needs. Their understanding of anything outside of their tiny circle is too much. Leave them alone and let’s get people who are persuadable to vote. He also stated he would vote for asshole again because he understands rural culture.

[GiqueCee]

75. A critical factor...

... is the ruthless dairy industry that dictates what they'll pay a farmer. They deliberately pay less than a farmer needs to break even. They want to drive small farmers out of business so that agribusiness corporations can dominate the industry. All this limits what a farmer is able to pay the farm workers if they even want to stay in business, which few are able to do anymore.
The problem isn't immigrant workers, it's greed-crazed sociopathic corporatists strangling family farms, God damn their evil souls to Hell.

[displacedvermoter]

85. But it still circles back to the point of the OP

Far too many dairy farmers, and farmers of all sorts,, vote for Republican politicians that then implement policies that support the greedy capitalist interests you rightfully point out are strangling family farms.

It is a variation on Union workers voting for candidates that hate Unions, or veterans voting for candidates that want to privatize the VA.

[GiqueCee]

88. Sad, but true. nt

[tinrobot]

46. They're eating everyone's face. Dairy prices are about to skyrocket.

Not to mention prices on every other type of food - produce, meat, grains...

All of them use immigrants.

[displacedvermoter]

66. Many of them were themselves immigrants not too many generations ago

French Canadian families were viewed with much disfavor when they first came across the border to work in mills, as domestic servants, and on farms. Now, as successful owners of large dairy operations, wood mills, and other labor intensive businesses, it is there turn to profit from immigrant labor.

[getagrip_already]

71. Actually, the supply may skyrocket....

And prices at the farmer level will crater.

A lot of milk goes to federal aid programs. Not just milk, but cheese and other products that are made from milk.

With the govt no longer buying milk and dairy products for these programs, prices will nosedive.

Dairy farming isnt family farming any more. Its modern automated farming and very sensitive to revenue shortfalls. It is highly capital intensive, as well as labor sensitive.

Paying more for labor and getting less for a product you cant turn off without culling is not going to end well. Thats one of the reasons price supports and food programs exist. Farming is a national security priority, or at least it was.

[BOSSHOG]

7. WE DIDN'T THINK!

Have that tattooed on your arm. Or forehead.

Demand a meeting with trump in the White House now.

[Nasruddin]

18. or eyeballs

Many of these folks need continuous reminders until they finally are admitted to memory care

[Vinca]

8. Well, you get what you voted for. Trump was a known liar so there was no reason to think he'd

just "go after the criminals."

[Norrrm]

9. Good news, republicans. You get your jobs back that the immigrants took from you.

Good news, republicans.
You get your jobs back that the immigrants took from you.
Now, go to work!

[Hekate]

10. Americans are not "lazy" -- but most of us moved to cities & suburbs generations ago for better lives...

I know, I know. There are people who love that rural life, and I’m sorry for the small family farms that have all but disappeared — but we ordinary people did not invent the Agribusiness that swallowed up small farms. Our grandparents and great grandparents got jobs where they didn’t have to shovel shit, except metaphorically, and we their descendants have no clue how to milk a cow.

And that, dear red-state heartland whatever people, leaves us all dependent on immigrants from countries and cultures where they still know how to do hard physical labor. All they want is to be treated decently and give their children a chance at a better future.

But no, y’all voted for trump, and the migrants and the rest of us are all going to suffer for your dumbshittery.

[Mariana]

23. The unemployment rate in Vermont is spectacularly low.

Dustin is going to have a hard time enticing people to quit the jobs they already have and go to work for him.

[Hekate]

30. Exactly. Real dumbshittery.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

34. I wonder how long Machia and his family will last on this schedule

now that “the help” has been taken away. At least it is getting into the warmer part of the year. Come winter time, it is going to be quite chilly at 4 AM.

[Bettie]

11. Locals don't want to do this work anymore

because they aren't willing to work for the amount you were willing to pay the undocumented people.

But, farmer dudes should be happy, their guy won, they got EXACTLY what he told them he'd do. They should be overjoyed over the promise being kept.

The leopards DID eat their faces, as promised.

[Midnight Writer]

35. I worked on a lot of farms as a young fellow, but it is a hard way to make a living.

Not because the work is so hard (though it is), but because pay is low and benefits are non-existent. Often, pay is cash under the table.

[JI7]

48. But even with minimum wage or higher would people do it ?

i think it would have to be much much higher for most Americans to want to do that work. It may not be affordable to hire people . But even then I see maybe mostly young men doing it as a temporary thing to make some extra money but probably would not work the long hours.

[markodochartaigh]

67. I don't think that most young people today

would work the manual labor jobs that immigrants do. When I graduated high school in 1975 I needed to make money for college. I worked at the factory slaughterhouse (IBP) for a year and a half. It was 8 hours a day, 6 days a week. Most of the positions were grueling. I boned chucks, removing the spine from a 50 lb piece of meat. You had to be able to do it consistently, and up to standard, every twenty seconds. My crapal tunnel still hurts every single day. You could bid on the few better jobs, but competition was intense. One lady got a permanent job as a secretary when her arm got cut off on a boning saw. The jobs paid $5-7/hr. With the overtime (this was one of the only union jobs in town) you could easily make $15,000 a year. There were many people in Amarillo with bachelors degrees who didn't make $15,000 a year.

There were two starting groups a week. Most US citizens quit the first week, probably about one quarter quit before lunch the first day. This was literally the only job available that paid more than minimum wage that was available without education or connections without moving 350 miles away. Failing here meant a difficult move or accepting that would likely never escape the lower class. I stayed a year and a half. I only know of one other US citizen who didn’t go into management who stayed as long as I did. More than two thirds of the employees were Viet Namese or Laotian refugees or from México.
From what I see of today's TikTok generation I can't imagine that they would last even a few hours in most manual labor jobs.

[Cha]

12. Inform yourselves BETTER on What Mump

IS, Disappointed Mump Voters.. ya Screwed Us All with your Stupid Throw Away votes.

[sheshe2]

13. ...

[DavidDvorkin]

14. Or: "We were utter idiots in November, and now we're paying the price of idiocy."

[BattleRow]

33. Udder idiots...

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

36. Nicely done!

[Volaris]

44. AND 'we dont think thats fair at all..and the dems dont care about us or theyd stop it...

But we're not gonna vote for them anyway even if they did fix it because Joe Biden is old or has cancer..or whatever ...Alex Jones said.'

The pain is the only way they're gonna learn.
More Leopards, please.
ALL the Leopards.

[Rebl2]

15. Well

you got what you voted for. Had you listened to his speeches you would know he wants all immigrants out of this country. I take pity on your family because you were too stupid to listen to what he was saying. I do not feel sorry for you though.

[RockRaven]

16. You got what you voted for, you dumb asshole. What the fuck are you complaining about?

If you don't want onions on your hamburger, don't order the hamburger with onions! It is very simple! Don't order a hamburger with onions and then cry about how you don't like onions, you goddamned manchild. There are other things on the menu. You should have ordered one of those instead. So STFU and eat, or don't, I don't care. Just STFU!

Look in the mirror. There is the author of your troubles!

[Nasruddin]

19. Welcome to the Resistance, Dustin!

Sorry I'm having a hard time stopping laughing - I just read something very funny

[Mariana]

20. The unemployment rate in Vermont is 2.7%.

https://labor.vermont.gov/press-release/unemployment-rate-rose-27-percent-april

Of course the locals don't want to do this work, you idiot. They already have jobs.

[WarGamer]

21. He's bragging that he had them working 6x 12hr days.

Probably paid $5/hr

[hatrack]

86. I believe it was $8/hour (from a free link to the whole article, posted elsewhere)

So, 12 hours a day X six days a week X 52 weeks a year - $29,952.

Of course, that's before taxes and expenses and anything else.

Gosh, just cant imagine why people aren't tripping over their own feet to work for this guy.

[Mariana]

97. Especially when pretty much everyone already has a job.

Unemployment in Vermont is very, very low.

[Paladin]

22. Yeah, well. Cry me a river, Daily Boy.

Actions, shake hands with Consequences.

[AllaN01Bear]

24. always happens when they go after the immigrant.

i wonder how many rich peoples illeagl nannys ice will go after ,.?

[Hekate]

38. As soon as the poor girl leaves the house, she's just another brown person to ICE

[HAB911]

25. LOL

[republianmushroom]

27. Live and learn, little dude, live and learn.

[Tribetime]

28. That's the funniest stuff I've seen in a while

[Lovie777]

29. He didn't think they would come after cow farms?.................

FAFO

and it's hurting the country.

[Keepthesoulalive]

32. He fixed the border

As he said he would. You just don’t like the outcome.

[riversedge]

37. It is a similiar situation in the Dairy State of Wisconsin.

[PhilG]

55. Oh yeah

I know a nearby CAFO where nobody speaks any English. Got lost once and stopped to ask directions. No luck at all. I wonder how many of those workers have self-deported or already been picked up by ICE ? Look forward to seeing the manager & owner out milking cows come winter

[FakeNoose]

39. I thought Vermonters were supposed to be TOUGH and SMART

Where did this guy come from?

What immigrants is he looking to hire, Canadians? That's about all they'll see in Vermont, other than Vermonters.

[Justice matters.]

50. Not anymore. Canadians will go vacation in New Brunswick instead of

Burlington or Plattsburg, or Old Orchard, or Virginia Beach.

No risk to be kidnapped and disappeared in concentration camps by the orange convict's gestapo there.

[FakeNoose]

78. Right you are, there are no immigrants who want work for a Vermont dairy farm

Especially if the farms are paying minimum wage ... or less. Canadians are smarter than that.

[Evolve Dammit]

40. The rubber is hitting the road, as the saying goes...

[Joinfortmill]

41. FAFO

[Beartracks]

42. Exhibit 1 for "Lack of Critical Thinking."

[mgardener]

43. So.

Let me get this straight.

He wanted to Trump to fix the border, just not his area of the border.

Immigrant labor for me, but not for thee?

Is that about right?

[SWBTATTReg]

45. Another example of those who voted for tRUMP and all of his stupid edicts, etc., not realizing the full impact of

everything tRUMP is doing. If anything, he's making it impossible to get anything done w/ labor, thinking that there is an endless supply, there isn't.

[bluestateboomer]

51. Automated Milkers are Already Here

There's a farm in Iowa where the cows milk themselves 24 hours a day.
https://imgur.com/a/bFZsOMg

[Red Mountain]

74. Yeah, but they're 300k + for the entry level model

and you're going to need a few.

Lot of money to borrow when you're already only making money in good years.

[bluestateboomer]

96. Yeah, One more problem for the family farm.

Corporate Agriculture triumphs again....

[Godot51]

52. Perhaps you should have been arrested...

... if you employed "illegal aliens" to milk your cows.

Or, more logically, if you employ "immigrants" who lack documentation, you could sponsor them, be responsible for them, and be able to vouch for them when they apply for legal status.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

80. Yep

Sounds like he's confessing to criminal activity.

Actually, that meme or whatever looks super fake to me. Seems to have been deleted from Reddit.

[Celerity]

81. Google Dustin Machia Vermont and you will instantly see the OP claim is real.

[hatrack]

87. The story is from a Boston Globe article - paywelled, but legit.

.

[lostnfound]

98. Families deport themselves as families, including LEGAL workers. And if you are talking about H-2A temporary visas...

..how many would—be seasonal agriculture workers are no longer willing to risk being in the US with ICE Barbie’s agents harassing anyone of Latin descent, immigrant or not?
..how many small farms have the time and resources to follow the 10-step legal process to get them approved for a nine-month stint?

[irisblue]

53. Why is *he * arrested for hiring people withour legal papers?

[Mariana]

77. That's an excellent question.

[appleannie1]

54. It is hard to feel sorry for people who's action has resulted in all ordinary people having to suffer with them.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

57. Another member of the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party

[kimbutgar]

58. This idiot will come back around and support he orange turd

When he hears on Fox or his right wing media that it’s Biden’s and the Democrats fault in 3-2-1……


His supporters are brain dead and too brainwashed in the cult !

[Blue Owl]

60. Nice job there Dustin

And not only did you screw yourself, you screwed 99% of all Americans by voting for this obviously crooked, stupid con man. Real good job there…. Real good….

[Hornedfrog2000]

61. Why isnt this human trafficer

In prison is what im hearing. He paid people slave wages to be imported to the USA? The criminals???!!!

[C Moon]

64. Go to hell. If you didn't figure it out from 2016-2020...

then you’ll never get it. Brainless boneheaded racist creeps.

[ProfessorGAC]

70. What A Dope

He got exactly what he voted for. Knew he wanted Trump (well at least anybody but a black woman) but didn't bother to get the details of what was an abundantly clear intention.

[czarjak]

72. Maybe pay better, maybe?

Americans will do any job for the correct pay. Believe me. F-N Republitards.

[UpInArms]

76. But

Owning the libs is so worth it

[FirefighterJo]

82. GEA has some wonderfull milking robots

Too bad the tarriffs made them 50% more expensive

[nakocal]

89. People who voted for Trump are

fucking stupid and don't live in reality and/ racists and bigots.

You had four years of his mismanaging the economy, foreign policy, a pandemic, and the border. Yet you learned NOTHING.
You saw him steal national security secrets, but it meant NOTHING to you
You saw him get convicted in civil court of sexual assault and you did not care.
You saw him get convicted of fraud and you thought so what.

Trump voters are NOT good people, you are not Patriots, and you are fucking clueless.

[blubunyip]

90. Give him credit

for admitting how he supported a Traitor, Felon, Rapist, Mysogynist, & Sociopathic Dictator for El Presidente.

Many of them don't have the guts to admit they messed up bigly. This guy at least has a chance of getting back to reality at some point.

[mucholderthandirt]

95. At least faces are carnivore, so we won't have fat leopards!

So much protein, so much time to get around to eating it all. LOL

My people were mostly textile workers, for generations. It got to where if you went to get a job in a mill, all you saw were immigrant faces. Now I guess any mills still around will have to close up, or try to entice people to do hot, back-breaking work for almost no money.

Or, maybe the slave labor camps will start up soon and people will be forced to go to work. I'm sure all of us seniors are chomping at the bit to get rid of our SS and have to do physical labor again!