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ificandream

(11,141 posts)
Fri May 23, 2025, 04:47 PM 4 hrs ago

My thoughts on Jake Tapper and the efforts to "expose" Joe Biden.

First, I much prefer MSNBC over CNN, but that has more to do with my familiarity with them rather than the station's personalities. In my view, CNN has tended to be more middle-of-the-road than MSNBC, and that's ok. I just prefer to go another route.

I will say, however, that I'm not entirely against books like Tapper's and Jonathan Allen's, though I think Allen is less trustworthy than Tapper given his previous books like the one he was so quick to get out after Hillary lost.

I don't think Tapper's motives are as bad as some here have made them out to be. Tapper's been a decent journalist in the past. That he may have latched on to a story that paints a less-than-glowing picture of Joe Biden doesn't make him evil unless it's proven he was dead wrong. I'm not sure he was completely right, but given the evidence we clearly saw at that awful debate, I don't think at least some of what he says in his book (which I admittedly have not read) won't be wrong. For those of us who aren't young (and I'm one of those folks), we know that things change as we get older. It's scary, believe me. And we all saw what happened the night of the debate. The question is how much of what we saw was just momentary.

And I think we saw in the last few months of his presidency that Joe 2024 wasn't the same as Joe 2012. But he hadn't lost everything. I loved that moment on The View recently when he made that mic drop statement about Trump.

On the other hand, there is something clearly wrong with Trump even though you'll never get one of his lackeys to agree. He has made it look like he's leading the herd, but in reality, he's been led by the nose ring and it's only going to get worse.

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Tommy Carcetti

(43,922 posts)
1. I think Tapper's in it for himself. Which isn't an uncommon thing per se.
Fri May 23, 2025, 04:52 PM
4 hrs ago

I don't think he's a Trumpist or anything like that.

He's a journalist who wrote a book and now wants to sell it, come hell or high water.

The problem being, the notion behind his book is inherently flawed.

Joe Biden was old. Everyone knew that when we voted for him in 2020. It was a known quantity.

He talked and walked like an 80 year old person talks and walks.

That doesn't mean he was incompetent for his job. It just means he was old.

Big whoop.

Silent Type

(9,507 posts)
2. Painful truth is there would have been no book had President Biden announced he wasn't running.
Fri May 23, 2025, 06:07 PM
3 hrs ago

Unfortunately, that didn’t happen.

W_HAMILTON

(9,007 posts)
8. Uhh, the exact same thing it's about now.
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:53 PM
26 min ago

You think people wouldn't question Biden's fitness for office? Hell, we heard it already, back before Biden dropped out but when people were still wanting him to, and there were those that were saying, "if Biden isn't capable of campaigning or serving a second term, how is he capable of being president right now?"

To think at how many in the media (or in charge of the media) we have watched either happily and eagerly or reluctantly roll over for this fascist administration, you think they would have gone easy on Biden regardless of what he did?

Silent Type

(9,507 posts)
9. We might have had a chance to actually win, therefore no need for a book on Biden other than praise.
Fri May 23, 2025, 09:02 PM
16 min ago
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