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Arazi

(7,852 posts)
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:26 PM May 23

Harvard gets immediate TRO on international students

Already! Really glad to see judges are figuring out that stall and delay is part of this administration’s strategy. It’s always been Traitor’s strategy which Pam Bondi adopted. Im heartened to see judges pushing back so rapidly.

Hours after Harvard University sued the Trump administration for revoking its ability to enroll international students, a federal judge temporarily barred the Department of Homeland Security from allowing the change to take effect.

U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs, a Barack Obama appointee, granted the Ivy League school's request for a temporary restraining order on May 23.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/23/harvard-lawsuit-international-students/83813633007/
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Harvard gets immediate TRO on international students (Original Post) Arazi May 23 OP
Good! SheltieLover May 23 #1
Yeah, it's one step closer... Septua May 23 #3
You know he won't. Initech May 23 #12
He never will SheltieLover May 23 #20
I fully expect ice to ignore this and kidnap and exile legal international students. unblock May 23 #2
If you listen to Homan talking his distorted legal logic... Septua May 23 #5
I expected to see exactly that. MineralMan May 23 #4
Harvard literally has an entire law school to sue the turd in ten minutes Bread and Circuses May 23 #6
Harvard isn't being represented by students. It has a team of experienced legal high achievers. onenote May 23 #10
As the old saying goes fujiyamasan May 23 #22
unless they pass the big, beautiful bill in the senate Tickle May 23 #7
I wonder if courts will rule against that? CaptainTruth May 23 #8
That would be interesting, but I think Tickle May 23 #9
I'm wondering if it's unconstitutional in some way, limiting the powers... CaptainTruth May 23 #11
It should be 🤷 NT Tickle May 23 #24
Good. Harvard, MIT, and other top schools attract top students from all over the planet Warpy May 23 #13
It's just such a fucking waste of everyone's time. LisaM May 23 #19
As always the lawyers win fujiyamasan May 23 #23
It's a good thing there ARE lawyers in this case. LisaM Saturday #31
Putin approves the mesage and that's Cha Saturday #27
My hope is that all of the universities band together including Columbia Arazi May 23 #21
Columbia must have a prize MAGAt for a Chancellor Warpy May 23 #25
BREAKING: Judge Burroughs grants Harvard's request for a temporary restraining order LetMyPeopleVote May 23 #14
I like this is from BlueSky.. Cha Saturday #28
Awesome news! n/t iluvtennis May 23 #15
The state needs to sue as well because Harvard is an integral part of its economy vanessa_ca May 23 #16
Of course there are just a few outriders, but it seems the federal courts as a whole are fed up with Trump's bull shit. flashman13 May 23 #17
I worked in Harvard Square, Cambridge Ma for years. Right down the street from Harvard. sheshe2 May 23 #18
That must have been so Cha Saturday #30
It was one of the best places I ever worked. sheshe2 Saturday #32
Aww, I know that's True! Cha Saturday #33
Does Trump carry a grudge? Norrrm Saturday #26
And, Harvard Rejects Mump's Anti-DEI Cha Saturday #29

Septua

(2,780 posts)
3. Yeah, it's one step closer...
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:53 PM
May 23

..to his eventual decision to respect the rule of law or not.

Initech

(104,988 posts)
12. You know he won't.
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:50 PM
May 23

This entire wretched POS administration is all about getting revenge for their precious toy being taken away from them in 2020, and they're determined to erase and make us forget about the last 4 years when he wasn't in charge.

Septua

(2,780 posts)
5. If you listen to Homan talking his distorted legal logic...
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:56 PM
May 23

..your expectation is spot on.

MineralMan

(149,133 posts)
4. I expected to see exactly that.
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:54 PM
May 23

Harvard, with its legal expertise, dropped a suit on Trump the day after the restrictions were announced. And the argument was good enough to get an immediate TRO from the court.

Clearly, the administration is overstepping its authority here.

onenote

(45,265 posts)
10. Harvard isn't being represented by students. It has a team of experienced legal high achievers.
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:47 PM
May 23

Five law firms and 14 individual lawyers are listed on the filings made on behalf of Harvard. The individual lawyers include former Supreme Court clerks for Justices Stevens, Kennedy, Scalia, Rehnquist, Thomas and Kavanaugh. These are lawyers with stellar credentials who have served in both Democratic and Republican administrations. A number of them are graduates of Harvard Law, but they also include graduates of Stanford, Columbia, Yale, Duke, U of Texas, Northwestern and Emory Law. The fact that several of the Harvard Law graduates went on to clerk for republican appointed judges and justices undermines the notion that Harvard is a hotbed of radical leftists.

The current Supreme Court has four Harvard law graduates, four Yale law graduates and one Notre Dame law graduate.

fujiyamasan

(208 posts)
22. As the old saying goes
Fri May 23, 2025, 04:57 PM
May 23

Harvard is a hedge fund with a university attached.

It has an endowment of over $50 billion, so it has a big enough war chest to spend on the best legal teams. But the feds can make life hell in other ways like using the IRS to go after it. Maybe they have already and I missed the news.


 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
7. unless they pass the big, beautiful bill in the senate
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:05 PM
May 23

One Big Beautiful Bill Act" (OBBBA), recently passed by the House, still contains a provision that significantly limits federal judges' ability to enforce contempt citations against executive branch officials. Specifically, the bill prohibits courts from using appropriated funds to enforce contempt citations for noncompliance with injunctions or temporary restraining orders if no security bond was posted when the order was issued .

CaptainTruth

(7,669 posts)
8. I wonder if courts will rule against that?
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:45 PM
May 23

IOW was it done in a way that's legally valid, or is it just more Trump/GOP BS?

CaptainTruth

(7,669 posts)
11. I'm wondering if it's unconstitutional in some way, limiting the powers...
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:50 PM
May 23

...of the Judicial Branch?

Warpy

(113,455 posts)
13. Good. Harvard, MIT, and other top schools attract top students from all over the planet
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:12 PM
May 23

Filling research labs with even the smartest white prep school grads would not be the same, they would lack the perspective that only a wildly different culture can provide.

I'm really happy to see Harvard fighting back, but I knew they would. They know how much of their academic strength comes from diversity. Too bad so many white people in power are too stupid to figure that out.

LisaM

(29,216 posts)
19. It's just such a fucking waste of everyone's time.
Fri May 23, 2025, 03:24 PM
May 23

Which this whole administration seems to delight in doing.

Not one of them is affirming their oath to serve the American people.

LisaM

(29,216 posts)
31. It's a good thing there ARE lawyers in this case.
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:18 AM
Saturday

Not all lawyers are bad. Right now they are the only line of defense against Trump.

Cha

(311,284 posts)
27. Putin approves the mesage and that's
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:02 AM
Saturday

who they're all working for. Attack from Within.

Arazi

(7,852 posts)
21. My hope is that all of the universities band together including Columbia
Fri May 23, 2025, 04:43 PM
May 23

This needs a united front.

Columbia is finding out that capitulating to these terrorists only invites more attacks.

There’s lessons in how both universities have handled the administration’s assault on higher education.

Warpy

(113,455 posts)
25. Columbia must have a prize MAGAt for a Chancellor
Fri May 23, 2025, 11:34 PM
May 23

if it's making that stupid and short sighted a decision.

Top researchers and the grand dollars they attract will simply move to universities that refuse to knuckle under to fascists.

LetMyPeopleVote

(163,805 posts)
14. BREAKING: Judge Burroughs grants Harvard's request for a temporary restraining order
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:21 PM
May 23

BREAKING: Judge Burroughs grants Harvard's request for a temporary restraining order, barring the Trump administration from revoking the university’s student exchange certification.

storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

Anna Bower (@annabower.bsky.social) 2025-05-23T16:04:19.488Z

vanessa_ca

(160 posts)
16. The state needs to sue as well because Harvard is an integral part of its economy
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:41 PM
May 23

Let this go to the Supreme Court. Four sitting SCOTUS were educated at Harvard. Harvard ties trump political ties/alliances.

flashman13

(1,216 posts)
17. Of course there are just a few outriders, but it seems the federal courts as a whole are fed up with Trump's bull shit.
Fri May 23, 2025, 03:07 PM
May 23

sheshe2

(92,171 posts)
18. I worked in Harvard Square, Cambridge Ma for years. Right down the street from Harvard.
Fri May 23, 2025, 03:17 PM
May 23
Welcome to Harvard Square

Each year, over 8 million men, women and children visit Harvard Square. Visitors come for a variety of reasons; this is a place of history, of books, of ideas, and of learning. It is a place of bookstores and coffee houses, of fine dining and eclectic shopping. It is a place of folk music and old theaters, of Cuban ballet and world-class music, of street-performers and award-winning pizza, of public discourse, and public art. Whatever brings you here, we welcome you and hope you enjoy your stay.


https://www.harvardsquare.com/about-harvard-square/



Cha

(311,284 posts)
30. That must have been so
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:17 AM
Saturday

Super Cool, she! 😎💙🌈

I imagine this is even more personal for you and everyone around Cambridge.. and of course, Harvard students and Grads.

sheshe2

(92,171 posts)
32. It was one of the best places I ever worked.
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:33 AM
Saturday

I loved the Square and the diversity it offered.

The Harvard Coop, founded by Harvard students in 1882, enjoys the distinction of being the oldest and one of the largest collegiate bookstores in the United States.

Thanks, Cha. You would have loved it there.

Cha

(311,284 posts)
33. Aww, I know that's True!
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:49 AM
Saturday

Ohh Thanks for the History, she! I'm all Verklempt about Harvard.

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