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bif

(26,672 posts)
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:46 PM May 2025

Kristi Noem blocks Harvard from enrolling international students

BOSTON (Reuters) -U.S. President Donald Trump's administration revoked Harvard University's ability to enroll international students on Thursday, and is forcing existing students to transfer to other schools or lose their legal status, the Department of Homeland Security said.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem ordered the department to terminate Harvard University’s Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification, the department said in a statement. Noem accused the university of "fostering violence, antisemitism, and coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-blocks-harvard-ability-enroll-180405761.html

Is this even legal?

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Kristi Noem blocks Harvard from enrolling international students (Original Post) bif May 2025 OP
This cannot be legal. Time for the courts to hear about it. MY GOD. CaliforniaPeggy May 2025 #1
I do not believe she has the authority to do that. But that has never stopped a Trumper yet. nt Jit423 May 2025 #14
I bet you that Harvard has some of the best lawyers in America if not in the world Botany May 2025 #16
I think you are quite right, my dear Botany! CaliforniaPeggy May 2025 #20
Harvard already has a T.R.O. Botany May 2025 #21
Stupid vindictive assholes. Are they ever going to get enough revenge? Walleye May 2025 #2
There is no bottom as far as I can tell. LisaL May 2025 #19
No Ma'm, Ms. Noem. MineralMan May 2025 #3
Yup! Botany May 2025 #7
Intolerable Act JustAnotherGen May 2025 #4
Yes, as Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem has the authority to revoke a university's certification to enroll i Tickle May 2025 #5
Fucking Shrub administration made that department's powers way too broad when they practically shat it out after 9/11. Karasu May 2025 #11
He issued an executive order? Igel May 2025 #15
Arbitrary and capricious Mysterian May 2025 #12
We are occupied BeerBarrelPolka May 2025 #6
Never fear, they can always enroll at Trump University. thucythucy May 2025 #8
Trump is good with going after them because there is no way in Hell he would have Maraya1969 May 2025 #9
Trump was bought a back door admission to the University of Penn he did not get into Wharton's MBA Botany May 2025 #22
What do Noem and Trump have left? no_hypocrisy May 2025 #10
Trump is all about EndlessWire May 2025 #13
Why does tRump hate foreigners so much? bif May 2025 #17
And he married two of them. LisaL May 2025 #18

Jit423

(1,568 posts)
14. I do not believe she has the authority to do that. But that has never stopped a Trumper yet. nt
Thu May 22, 2025, 06:33 PM
May 2025

Botany

(76,398 posts)
16. I bet you that Harvard has some of the best lawyers in America if not in the world
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:06 AM
May 2025

Harvard will demand that Noem and the executive branch show proof of authority to
issue such a blatantly unconstitutional and illegal order. Noem didn’t even know what
the meaning of Habeas Corpus was. I would be surprised if Harvard’s attorneys are
not in court or have filed something by the end of this day.

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,142 posts)
20. I think you are quite right, my dear Botany!
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:51 AM
May 2025

I just saw a headline that states that Harvard indeed has taken them to court. Damn right!

Botany

(76,398 posts)
21. Harvard already has a T.R.O.
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:30 PM
May 2025

Hours after Harvard University sued the Trump administration for revoking its ability to enroll international students, a federal judge temporarily barred the Department of Homeland Security from allowing the change to take effect.

U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs, a Barack Obama appointee, granted the Ivy League school's request for a temporary restraining order on May 23.

Snip

Harvard's complaint, filed in federal district court in Massachusetts, called the Trump administration's move a "blatant violation" of the First Amendment, Due Process Clause and the Administrative Procedures Act.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/23/harvard-lawsuit-international-students/83813633007/

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
5. Yes, as Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem has the authority to revoke a university's certification to enroll i
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:57 PM
May 2025

his certification is managed by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and is required for institutions to host students on F-1 and J-1 visas.

On May 22, 2025, Secretary Noem announced the immediate revocation of Harvard University's SEVP certification. This action prohibits Harvard from enrolling new international students and mandates that current international students—numbering nearly 6,800—transfer to other institutions or risk losing their legal immigration status.

The DHS cited Harvard's alleged failure to address antisemitism on campus and purported coordination with the Chinese Communist Party as reasons for the revocation. Secretary Noem emphasized that enrolling international students is a privilege, not a right, and that institutions must adhere to federal standards to maintain this privilege.
Harvard has condemned the action as unlawful and retaliatory, asserting that it undermines the university's academic mission and harms its community. The university is working to provide guidance and support to affected students and is pursuing legal avenues to challenge the decision.
This development is part of a broader pattern of increased federal scrutiny and intervention in higher education institutions, particularly those perceived to be promoting ideologies contrary to the administration's policies. The situation remains dynamic, with potential legal challenges and policy implications unfolding.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
11. Fucking Shrub administration made that department's powers way too broad when they practically shat it out after 9/11.
Thu May 22, 2025, 05:47 PM
May 2025

Mysterian

(6,175 posts)
12. Arbitrary and capricious
Thu May 22, 2025, 06:15 PM
May 2025

This idiotic ban will get shot down immediately and imbecile Noem will be raked over the coals by another judge.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
6. We are occupied
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:01 PM
May 2025

We are occupied by enemy combatants. Make no mistake about that. Strategies must change.

Maraya1969

(23,418 posts)
9. Trump is good with going after them because there is no way in Hell he would have
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:35 PM
May 2025

even been accepted at Harvard. I don't even think he could have gotten into Warton without his father's money/influence

Botany

(76,398 posts)
22. Trump was bought a back door admission to the University of Penn he did not get into Wharton's MBA
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:38 PM
May 2025

program. That is for smart people which he is not one of them. One professor from Penn
said he was the stupidest student he ever had in his career.

no_hypocrisy

(54,282 posts)
10. What do Noem and Trump have left?
Thu May 22, 2025, 05:47 PM
May 2025

They took away Harvard's grants.

They took away Harvard's financial aid.

I think they're out of bullets.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
13. Trump is all about
Thu May 22, 2025, 06:27 PM
May 2025

bullying and destroying that which he doesn't understand, can't obtain, is rejected by...and which has a whole lotta money he thinks he can put in his pocket, if he just keeps at it.

One day, this will be over. I hope we shun those that participated in the destruction of our institutions. Many people consider Harvard to be the best educational institution in the world. Regardless of what you think, the Orange Turd is evil in his intent. Harvard will survive. He won't.

bif

(26,672 posts)
17. Why does tRump hate foreigners so much?
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:14 AM
May 2025

After all, his parents were from Germany?

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