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senseandsensibility

(24,247 posts)
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:07 PM May 2025

It's his "personal time". Don't you feel better now?

Last edited Thu May 22, 2025, 07:20 PM - Edit history (1)

A reporter just asked Karoline Leavitt if the WH will commit to making a list of the attendees at tonight's crypto dinner public so people can see who's paying for that kind of access to the president.

Her answer: The president is attending it in his personal time.

Oh okay. Never mind that it was reported on MSNBC that the majority of attendees are foreign nationals. They are paying at least a million for access.

But no biggee, people. It's his PERSONAL TIME, okay?

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It's his "personal time". Don't you feel better now? (Original Post) senseandsensibility May 2025 OP
Looks like I can rob a bank on my "personal time." Irish_Dem May 2025 #1
The possibilities are endless senseandsensibility May 2025 #3
I'm retired, so all my time is personal time. Irish_Dem May 2025 #4
I'm sure the reporter who asked that question choie May 2025 #13
Sure, right. Irish_Dem May 2025 #15
good to know this doesn't count as 'official duty' Oliver Bolliver Butt May 2025 #21
We are supposed to believe he is only a psychopath on his off time. Irish_Dem May 2025 #30
Someone needs to mark this down as officially not an "Official Act". Hugin May 2025 #35
Can?? official acts take place on Personal Time? Volaris May 2025 #42
Two million a piece is how it worked out, if I recall correctly. Solly Mack May 2025 #2
You have to realize that DENVERPOPS May 2025 #47
Excellent point! Solly Mack May 2025 #50
I can make the case, that we have lost our democracy. gab13by13 May 2025 #5
There are three groups of individuals DENVERPOPS May 2025 #48
I take it that the donations are personal as well or at least will be categorized as a tip. chowder66 May 2025 #6
Yup, Crypto, gab13by13 May 2025 #9
TSF will write all this "personal time" off his taxes. He's a criminal. nt allegorical oracle May 2025 #24
Can you imagine if Joe Bidens spokesperson made the same comment the outrage wold be off the wall kimbutgar May 2025 #7
And the WH press pool is as well senseandsensibility May 2025 #25
I believe it is called the WH cesspool these days Johonny May 2025 #29
What about the media? n/t malaise May 2025 #26
Yes the media is complicit in bowing to the orange hitler kimbutgar May 2025 #32
Several of those literally bribed him themselves Diraven May 2025 #52
If he were murdered on his personal time, would they call it assassination? Orrex May 2025 #8
So anything he does there AleksS May 2025 #10
Quick! E-mail the Supreme Court with this info senseandsensibility May 2025 #12
Presidents get personal time? Retrograde May 2025 #11
Please leak the list pfitz59 May 2025 #14
Are there any? senseandsensibility May 2025 #27
No other professional is allowed to commit crimes on their off time. Irish_Dem May 2025 #17
Well if Krasnov is allowed to commit crimes on his off time gab13by13 May 2025 #19
I can't decide whether to rob banks or jewelry stores. Irish_Dem May 2025 #28
Kings dont do well in this country, especially when they start fucking with peoples money. Volaris May 2025 #43
It's Trump's grifting time. sop May 2025 #18
Hey! Great idea! senseandsensibility May 2025 #20
Is it dead yet? aocommunalpunch May 2025 #16
I miss the days when golf was "personal time" SouthBayDem May 2025 #22
Not official acts? Nasruddin May 2025 #23
If It's his personal time, Griefbird May 2025 #31
Like rules apply to a psychopath. Good luck with that. ❤️ littlemissmartypants May 2025 #51
I suppose if we were Figarosmom May 2025 #33
that leaves me with a question quakerboy May 2025 #34
So, if he does anything illegal during that time.... usedtobedemgurl May 2025 #36
Yo media when are you going to DO YOU Constitutional DUTY !!! proud patriot May 2025 #37
Another dictator move. I do what I want and FU. n/t Evolve Dammit May 2025 #38
Is it being held at one of his personal homes? Is he paying for the food from his personal LoisB May 2025 #39
Give me a fucking break. They'd have an easier time making that case about his fucking GOLF TRIPS than this crypto BS. Karasu May 2025 #40
He's always on personal time. He doesn't do anything Hassler May 2025 #41
They are literally saying that EarlG May 2025 #44
Is that what's called logic? senseandsensibility May 2025 #45
His SCOTUS magic immunity only applies to official acts. Nevilledog May 2025 #46
I know, it's weird EarlG May 2025 #49
Cash for access is completely unethical. Politicains in other nations have had to resign for that. Doodley May 2025 #53
As Jen Psaki said last night, a sitting president never gets time off while he's in office no matter where he is! Rhiannon12866 May 2025 #54
I thought the president was on the clock 24/7. Emile May 2025 #55
If this is personal time and he is not doing official presidential acts UpInArms May 2025 #56
the last refuge poozwah May 2025 #57
There is nothing in this world they will not lie about.. kentuck May 2025 #58

Irish_Dem

(79,777 posts)
4. I'm retired, so all my time is personal time.
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:28 PM
May 2025

Yep I could be a career criminal with no consequences.

Where to begin? Yep endless possibilities.

choie

(6,608 posts)
13. I'm sure the reporter who asked that question
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:02 PM
May 2025

pushed back after receiving that response…right?

Hugin

(37,421 posts)
35. Someone needs to mark this down as officially not an "Official Act".
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:42 PM
May 2025

So, we can come at The High Maintenance Mussolini or his heirs with charges someday.

I'm sure that nothing would come of it, but watching the two step would be amusing and it's possible that it would be an entirely NOT sympathetic SCOTUS at that point.

Volaris

(11,394 posts)
42. Can?? official acts take place on Personal Time?
Thu May 22, 2025, 07:31 PM
May 2025

If the answers no, I very much hope he crimes his fatass off tonight.

Solly Mack

(96,327 posts)
2. Two million a piece is how it worked out, if I recall correctly.
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:14 PM
May 2025

A president never has "personal time", not really. He's "President" 24/7 or is supposed to be.

The money is buying influence and no matter how many lies they tell to explain it away, that fact won't change.



DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
47. You have to realize that
Thu May 22, 2025, 08:17 PM
May 2025

in reality, being President isn't his full time "day" job............

gab13by13

(31,199 posts)
5. I can make the case, that we have lost our democracy.
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:28 PM
May 2025

Everyone knows that the Act that Krasnov invoked to deport immigrants was done illegally. Maduro did not work with the drug gang to invade the US. Maduro is fighting against the drug gang. Krasnov just ignores what judges are ruling and there have been 3 judges who are afraid to hold Krasnov lawyers in contempt because they will get death threats.

Sure looks to me like Krasnov is gaining control over the 3 branches of government.

Does Krasnov have control over the military? I mean, will it obey illegal orders? Krasnov is having his dear leader birthday military parade.

What's left? Democrats are spending money on the upcoming election, sure hope we have elections.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
48. There are three groups of individuals
Thu May 22, 2025, 08:26 PM
May 2025

that have played the biggest role in giving him his power.....The Republicans in the U.S. Senate, The Republicans in the U.S. House,
and the Republicans in the U.S. Supreme Court.

Think for a moment about this:

In a tyranny/dictatorship.....THERE IS NO JUDICIAL BRANCH OR LEGISLATIVE BRANCH........they all will have no further usefulness to Trump or his CABAL.....and will surely be thrown under the bus like everyone else he has ever come in contact with.....

Every last Republican in those three groups, are screwing themselves, and don't have the intelligence to realize it......

gab13by13

(31,199 posts)
9. Yup, Crypto,
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:54 PM
May 2025

that goes to his company run by Jr.

Didn't 16 Senate Democrats just vote for a crypto bill?

Krasnov has made 3 billion dollars through Crypto so far this year. Good way to launder money.

kimbutgar

(26,798 posts)
7. Can you imagine if Joe Bidens spokesperson made the same comment the outrage wold be off the wall
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:40 PM
May 2025

The repukes are such hypocrites.

senseandsensibility

(24,247 posts)
25. And the WH press pool is as well
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:39 PM
May 2025

They have completely different standards for how they treat the two presidents. Polar opposite, really. Scream their heads off at both Joe and Karinne and never interrupt or raise their voices at trump or leavitt. It's so obvious. And yet, one side is lying constantly and deserves to be screamed at.

kimbutgar

(26,798 posts)
32. Yes the media is complicit in bowing to the orange hitler
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:10 PM
May 2025

ABC, CBS, NBC, NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times to name a few. They will pay for this and lose money when people stop watching and paying for subscriptions.

Diraven

(1,824 posts)
52. Several of those literally bribed him themselves
Thu May 22, 2025, 10:16 PM
May 2025

To "settle lawsuits" which were of course completely bogus, but they served as convenient bribe vehicles for their billionaire owners

Orrex

(66,673 posts)
8. If he were murdered on his personal time, would they call it assassination?
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:42 PM
May 2025

Can he declassify documents with his mind on his personal time?

senseandsensibility

(24,247 posts)
12. Quick! E-mail the Supreme Court with this info
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:57 PM
May 2025

not that I expect any consistency from them, of course.

Retrograde

(11,375 posts)
11. Presidents get personal time?
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:56 PM
May 2025

I thought the job was 24X7 - and even during vacations the president is supposed to be on-call and ready to act in a crisis on a moment's notice.

Irish_Dem

(79,777 posts)
17. No other professional is allowed to commit crimes on their off time.
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:09 PM
May 2025

They only have to adhere to the law during work hours.

Sure.

gab13by13

(31,199 posts)
19. Well if Krasnov is allowed to commit crimes on his off time
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:16 PM
May 2025

and the Supreme Court said he can't be prosecuted for performing an official duty.....you see where I'm going with this?

Once the Big Ugly Death Bill passes the Senate he will be king.

Irish_Dem

(79,777 posts)
28. I can't decide whether to rob banks or jewelry stores.
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:56 PM
May 2025

I do like looking at pretty jewelry.

Decisions decisions.

Volaris

(11,394 posts)
43. Kings dont do well in this country, especially when they start fucking with peoples money.
Thu May 22, 2025, 07:36 PM
May 2025

It will build, and there will be mass protests. He won't be king for long, I think.

senseandsensibility

(24,247 posts)
20. Hey! Great idea!
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:17 PM
May 2025

If any Dems are interested in going on the offense, or messaging, they could use that term. Grifting time. It's not polite, though, so.....

Figarosmom

(9,745 posts)
33. I suppose if we were
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:37 PM
May 2025

Attacked during his "personal" time he'd do nothing about it?

Presidents don't get personal time, that's part of the job.

quakerboy

(14,711 posts)
34. that leaves me with a question
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:39 PM
May 2025

Since they have delineated it as personal time, does that mean that whatever he does there is excluded from the protection the SCOTUS gave him for doing things while acting as president?

usedtobedemgurl

(1,930 posts)
36. So, if he does anything illegal during that time....
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:47 PM
May 2025

He is only immune for presidential responsibilities, right?

LoisB

(12,362 posts)
39. Is it being held at one of his personal homes? Is he paying for the food from his personal
Thu May 22, 2025, 04:05 PM
May 2025

wallet? I he using his personal table settings?

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
40. Give me a fucking break. They'd have an easier time making that case about his fucking GOLF TRIPS than this crypto BS.
Thu May 22, 2025, 06:13 PM
May 2025

...And frankly, we subsidize those, too.

EarlG

(23,346 posts)
44. They are literally saying that
Thu May 22, 2025, 07:39 PM
May 2025

there are times when Trump is not President. Like, being President is a 9-5 job and you get weekends off.

They’re saying that he can do whatever he wants when he’s on “personal time” — essentially that the oath he took doesn’t apply during those periods, because he’s not working. He’s on “personal time.”

I know Presidents get R&R time, but I’m pretty sure that doesn’t excuse them from their obligations. There’s no exception to high crimes and misdemeanors if they were committed on personal time.

senseandsensibility

(24,247 posts)
45. Is that what's called logic?
Thu May 22, 2025, 07:46 PM
May 2025
I had to check to be sure, since there's been so little in evidence lately. Especially from the esteemed WH Press Corps.

EarlG

(23,346 posts)
49. I know, it's weird
Thu May 22, 2025, 08:37 PM
May 2025

If he orders a terrorist to be taken out with a drone, and civilians are killed in the explosion, he can’t be prosecuted for murder. But if he shoots his caddy on the golf course, he can be.

And he doesn’t get to take a break from his oath of office when he’s on personal time. Impeachment is the proper remedy for a criminal president. He can’t say “yes I engaged in high crimes in misdemeanors, but it was on personal time.”

But at the same time, that seems to be the rationale they’re giving to excuse whatever he gets up to at the crypto party….

Doodley

(11,629 posts)
53. Cash for access is completely unethical. Politicains in other nations have had to resign for that.
Thu May 22, 2025, 10:44 PM
May 2025

Rhiannon12866

(250,185 posts)
54. As Jen Psaki said last night, a sitting president never gets time off while he's in office no matter where he is!
Fri May 23, 2025, 05:25 AM
May 2025

Including that 3AM phone call! So much for TFG's "personal time..."

UpInArms

(54,061 posts)
56. If this is personal time and he is not doing official presidential acts
Fri May 23, 2025, 06:32 AM
May 2025

Whatever he is doing does not have immunity

They have just given an opening … please take note

poozwah

(391 posts)
57. the last refuge
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:33 AM
May 2025

the last refuge of a president with damned near total immunity is the newly created personal time for all crime exception. trump could shoot people with no threat of prosecution as long as he does it on his personal time. since most all of his personal time is spent golfing, trump would be wise to commit crimes on golf courses. this problem may also be eliminated by trump simply pardoning himself of all crimes he MAY commit in the future.

kentuck

(115,101 posts)
58. There is nothing in this world they will not lie about..
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:36 AM
May 2025

They make up any old shit that will fit their narrative of reality.

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