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choie

(5,906 posts)
Thu May 22, 2025, 08:28 AM May 22

I know this may seem superficial

but I DESPISE the fact that the media have taken up trump's propaganda phrase "Big Beauatiful Bill". I HATE IT! They have completely echoed trump's poisonous and ignorant PR.

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I know this may seem superficial (Original Post) choie May 22 OP
Reminds me of Shrub's no_hypocrisy May 22 #1
Very true! choie May 22 #2
Believe it or not... FBaggins May 22 #3
Yep. Section One of the Bill: onenote May 22 #5
"May" not "Shall" choie May 23 #24
So of course, the news media dutifully obey and call it that. Even though it makes them sound stupid. Walleye May 22 #6
it makes me sick Skittles May 22 #20
It is rank propaganda.... magicarpet May 23 #27
We will be hearing it endlessly over the next few days and months Walleye May 22 #4
No the American media is complete crap Johonny May 22 #7
And the same media has been propping up the republican party for more than 40 years. Since the '70s. BComplex May 22 #12
The media are primarily stenographers. They are so easily manipulated to use RepubliCONNER framing. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 22 #8
It's not superficial. Susan Calvin May 22 #9
Thank you! choie May 23 #25
They can't wait to prostrate themselves before him. Orrex May 22 #10
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder William Seger May 22 #11
Bigly Bad Bullshit Martin Eden May 22 #13
Branding is the name of the game now that society is thoroughly immersed in allegorical oracle May 22 #14
they probably call it barbtries May 22 #15
Agree. His silly, juvenile verbiage yorkster May 22 #16
This is to make us forget Pres Biden's Build Back Better plan, stealing the BBB moniker...nt Wounded Bear May 22 #17
One thing is for certain: We don't need a Barnum and Bailey circus...we already have an expensive one. chouchou May 22 #18
Hear, hear! It's the MAGA Murder Budget. pat_k May 22 #19
The media have little choice because the legislation is actually named the "Big Beautiful Bill." summer_in_TX May 23 #21
Of course they have a choice! choie May 23 #26
Agreed, The opposition needs to unify behind a name of their own misanthrope May 23 #22
Most mainstream media have bent the knee to Trump now either subtly or overtly. n/t elocs May 23 #23

no_hypocrisy

(52,445 posts)
1. Reminds me of Shrub's
Thu May 22, 2025, 08:34 AM
May 22

“Clear Skies” initiative to improve the Clean Air Act. And Leave No Child Behind. A mask hiding the Evil beneath it.

onenote

(45,540 posts)
5. Yep. Section One of the Bill:
Thu May 22, 2025, 09:11 AM
May 22

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ``One Big Beautiful Bill Act''.

Walleye

(41,591 posts)
6. So of course, the news media dutifully obey and call it that. Even though it makes them sound stupid.
Thu May 22, 2025, 09:11 AM
May 22

magicarpet

(18,455 posts)
27. It is rank propaganda....
Fri May 23, 2025, 06:08 PM
May 23
Perception Management - the name is designed to make you think favorably at this atrocity of a bill that is a handout to the obscene rich and a death knell for the poor and not so rich.

BComplex

(9,502 posts)
12. And the same media has been propping up the republican party for more than 40 years. Since the '70s.
Thu May 22, 2025, 09:50 AM
May 22

Fully owned and operated by the right wing. That's why they kept preaching about "the LIBERAL media" for so many years.... it helped them to keep moving the discussion further and further to the right, until now we have the MAGAts running (and ruining) the country AND the world.

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,407 posts)
8. The media are primarily stenographers. They are so easily manipulated to use RepubliCONNER framing. . . nt
Thu May 22, 2025, 09:15 AM
May 22

allegorical oracle

(5,451 posts)
14. Branding is the name of the game now that society is thoroughly immersed in
Thu May 22, 2025, 09:58 AM
May 22

advertising for everything practically all the time. TSF knows how to do it very well.

barbtries

(30,622 posts)
15. they probably call it
Thu May 22, 2025, 10:21 AM
May 22

the gulf of america too.

it's independent media for me pretty exclusively. i get so frustrated and angry at legacy media.

yorkster

(3,276 posts)
16. Agree. His silly, juvenile verbiage
Thu May 22, 2025, 10:29 AM
May 22

make my skin crawl. A ridiculous name for this terrible bill.

Wounded Bear

(62,613 posts)
17. This is to make us forget Pres Biden's Build Back Better plan, stealing the BBB moniker...nt
Thu May 22, 2025, 10:36 AM
May 22

chouchou

(2,205 posts)
18. One thing is for certain: We don't need a Barnum and Bailey circus...we already have an expensive one.
Thu May 22, 2025, 10:52 AM
May 22

pat_k

(11,517 posts)
19. Hear, hear! It's the MAGA Murder Budget.
Thu May 22, 2025, 04:40 PM
May 22

... and the sooner more opponents get on board with calling it that, the more effective we will be in tying that millstone around Republican necks.

There is nothing "superficial" about effective vs. ineffective framing. I think some people think they are capturing 47's absurdity. They are not. It is sooooo counterproductive to adopt the language of those you oppose. And language matters.

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We can protect our freedoms, our families, and our futures, but to do it, we need a clear, true, powerful, and activating narrative that motivates people to join with others to confront the bullies who seek to control us.

We must STOP opposing the regime by implicitly defending a status quo that Americans across the political spectrum have rejected as failing them.

We must STOP running after the latest horror and talk about those horrors within the same narrative frame.

We must learn to say fewer things, and we must learn to say the things we do say over, and over, and over until we are tired of hearing ourselves, and then keep repeating.

Anat Shenker-Osorio is the clearest voice I have heard on the why and how. She has also created the best guide I've seen to date.

She was on the That Trippi Show April 18th, (episode: "If you want to touch a nerve, you have to touch a nerve " )

Joe has has called the episode perhaps the most important episode to date. I absolutely agree and wanted to encourage anyone who missed it to find the time to listen.

And, even more importantly, do whatever you can to help make Anat's Freedom Over Fascism Toolkit the go-to guide for ourselves, our electeds, our community leaders, our state parties, the DNC, 2026 candidates, and any other person or entity committed to reclaiming our government from the bullies and the billionaires they serve. Help ignite American optimism and belief in our own power to build a society and government we can be proud of.


summer_in_TX

(3,721 posts)
21. The media have little choice because the legislation is actually named the "Big Beautiful Bill."
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:18 AM
May 23

So accuracy requires it. Clever marketing propaganda, unfortunately.

But, we can and should rename it. I've called it the Big Bullshit Bill, the Big BS Bill, and saw someone else refer to it as the Big Ugly Bill.

Beauty is as beauty does. Ugly is right.

choie

(5,906 posts)
26. Of course they have a choice!
Fri May 23, 2025, 06:05 PM
May 23

They could just call it the budget bill. There was a time, before we became an idiocracy, when bills weren’t named, for chrissake.

misanthrope

(8,979 posts)
22. Agreed, The opposition needs to unify behind a name of their own
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:46 AM
May 23

for this monstrosity. It would help if it were also alliterative.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
23. Most mainstream media have bent the knee to Trump now either subtly or overtly. n/t
Fri May 23, 2025, 06:08 AM
May 23
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