As a supporter of Palestinian rights, the murders of these two Israeli diplomats PISSES me off. Cold blooded murder of

[artemisia1]

this sort has NO justification and NO EXCUSE. The loser who did this is, imho, a "True Believer" sort who looks for a cause -- any cause -- to give their life "meaning" and purpose. I'm opposed to the death penalty for a variety of reasons, but cases of this type help me to understand -- but not agree with -- those for it.

This also DEEPLY damages the actual plight of the Gazans. Hamas can go to hell as far as I am concerned, but not the civilians caught in this humanitarian crisis.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/two-israeli-embassy-staffers-killed-in-shooting-attack-at-washington-dc-jewish-museum/

[artemisia1]

1. I won't publicize this POS's name, but, according to the linked article he signed an "anti-genocide pledge". How does

one declare themselves morally opposed to murder and then gun down in cold blood an UNARMED, non-combatant couple visiting a freakin' museum? If guilty, he's no more a human rights activist than Charles Manson was a "flower child":

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-855018

[EdmondDantes_]

38. I don't agree with the guy's actions or logic at all, but I can understand his misguided logic in part

It's the logic that says if you kill baby Hitler you stop WWII and the Holocaust, so that murder is justified by the greater good in that one murder is better than millions. Where it immediately falls apart internally is that these two people don't fit the description of a unitary actor that could stop the disaster in Gaza. Then there's that the great man of history theory that any one individual could do that at all is pretty silly, and that the disaster in Gaza has many responsible parties and killing these two not only isn't going to do even the slightest to stop it, it has a chance to just inflame it.

[Lucky Luciano]

2. This was a terrorist attack. Hope it is treated accordingly.

[augyboston]

3. Let's find out who did this - if that's even possible with Donnie Rotten, Bondi and this DOJ

The first assumption many of us will make is these were revenge killings by the Palestinians or their supporters, but we should not jump the gun here.

Would any of us be surprised if this was perpetrated by the right wing and/or white supremacists and this administration will use it to crack down on Palestinians and their supporters?

Wherever this goes, it would be nice if we had strong investigative journalism in this country instead of the teleprompter reading bubble heads who dominate today's news rooms.

[artemisia1]

4. The arrested suspect is NOT Palestinian. I won't list his name here but it is NOT Palestinian. /nt

[yardwork]

9. There are several articles that describe the arrest of the killer.

It's not a mystery.

[IronLionZion]

13. Elias Rodriguez of Chicago

He was arrested on the scene.

[yardwork]

5. A lot of us felt that way about the Hamas terrorist attack.

[Nanjeanne]

6. There is no justification for this murder. As a Palestinian rights supporter I can say this outright. As

someone with family in Israel and whose family was involved in French resistance and lost lives in WW2 I still believe that nothing Israel has done can ever justify this murder. And I am very very much against what Israel is doing. There still is no justification. Innocent people should not be murdered. And these two innocent people should not have been sacrificed for the government of Israel.

[yardwork]

8. By that standard every U.S. citizen deserves to be murdered.

We are citizens of a nation that "enables, justifies and excuses the deaths of innocents."

[artemisia1]

10. Two wrongs don't make a right. Welcome to my ignore list. /nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

11. Wow!!!

Words fail me at the crass statement.
Welcome to my ignore list also.

[Intractable]

30. I argued with you elsewhere today, but agree with you here. Totally crass.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

36. Thank you.

Gotta head out now but you have a great Thur. and a great upcoming weekend.

[rollin74]

14. what you said is sickening and deplorable

that is all

[mcar]

21. That's disgusting

[karynnj]

22. None of us know anything about these two young people

except that she was an American from Kansas and he was Israeli and both worked for the embassy as very junior staff. Just as there are still some liberal Democratic career State department people working at US consulates, these people might personally opposed Netanyahu's policies. Even if they did, there is absolutely no justification in killing them and it will likely hurt Palestinian rights not help them.

[artemisia1]

23. Wise words. Thanks. /nt

[Mosby]

24. The victims.

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Yaron Lischinsky was the finest friend I’ve ever had, brilliant, kind, and endlessly thoughtful. A devout Christian and a gifted linguist, he spoke German, Hebrew, and Japanese. He was full of curiosity and always brimming with ideas. I don’t think we ever had a conversation that didn’t leave me inspired to write something new.

He loved America. He was excited about the future, about finally visiting Texas, and about the life he and his beloved fiancée were building together. I was supposed to meet her today.

They are both gone. And the loss is immeasurable. The world has lost two extraordinary souls. And I have lost a dear friend who made every moment brighter.

Link to tweet

Sarah Milgrim, 26, was a passionate peace activist.

She held a Master’s in International Studies from American University, and a second Master’s in Natural Resources and Sustainable Development from the United Nations University for Peace.

At the Israeli Embassy in Washington DC, she dedicated her work to building a future where Israelis and Palestinians could live side by side in peace and dignity.

She also volunteered with Tech2Peace, an organization that brings together young Israelis and Palestinians to foster dialogue, understanding, and reconciliation.

When Elias Rodriguez shot her, simply because she was Jewish, he murdered not just a bright young woman, but the very kind of person our world so desperately needs: someone working tirelessly to create a more peaceful, just, and shared future for all.

May her memory be a blessing.

Link to tweet

[artemisia1]

33. May he be remembered and the cowardly POS who gunned him down be forgotten. /nt

[mcar]

42. That sounds like amazing young people

[orleans]

46. thank you for posting these two tweets. it is absolutely completely heartbreaking what happened

and my heart goes out to them, their families, their friends.

[LexVegas]

25. There it is. nt

[yardwork]

26. In some ways I'm glad it's not hidden.

Let everybody see the post and the two (so far) recs.

And let they who have no sin be the first to cheer murder.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

37. Oh, it was removed, and rightly so.

That was some Grade A bullshit he spouted.

[yardwork]

39. It survived at least one jury. I know that for sure.

[IronLionZion]

12. Elias Rodriguez of Chicago

In case any DUers were jumping to conclusions about the perp

[yardwork]

28. What conclusion might that be, that you suspect us of jumping towards?

[IronLionZion]

32. I prefer facts and try to avoid speculation

so just informing my fellow DUers who don't have to speculate about where the perp is from or his name or if he's still on the loose. He was arrested on the scene.

[haele]

43. Nihlist looking for a cause to burn something down

No different from the terrorists or self-impotent radicals that perpetuate victimization of others for their own egos.
Instead of trying to knock down conflict, they keep throwing in matches and take joy in watching the world burn.

[Littlered]

15. First I've heard of this.

It has to be some crazed right wing nut job. They just love violence.

[Mossfern]

16. I don't think so

there are very few right wing nut jobs that support the Palestinian cause.

[Littlered]

31. I didn't see anything in the op

That alluded to that? I figured it was just some racist right winger doing what they do. 🤷

Have a great day.

[rollin74]

17. here is video of the suspect being arrested

Link to tweet

?

[artemisia1]

19. You don't represent the victims in Gaza, murderer! /nt

[Littlered]

49. Oh my.

I don’t know what to make of that. Is this the end result of all of these protests? Brainwashing? Drugs?

I wonder if he was stalking these people? There seems to be no shortage of people popping off lately. I saw that a guy blew himself up at an abortion clinic the other day?

I’ve been wrapped up in my business and a long list of domestic things that I haven’t really had the time to take it all in. I just read here today that they are raising my taxes. I’m already being taxed out of existence.

[RJ-MacReady]

18. He shouted

Free Palestine before killing them.

[Arazi]

20. And afterwards too, just to make sure he was crystal clear

[yardwork]

27. It's the first you've heard of this because it just happened.

And the suspected killer shouted "Free Palestine" as he was arrested so it seems unlikely that he's a right winger.

Also, there's a post right in this thread cheering the murder. Is that poster "a crazed right winger?"

[Littlered]

29. Easy now.

I am not hardwired into the news or this thread. I just got home from my early morning gig and saw this post. I made a comment and moved on with my life. No need to attack me over it.

[yardwork]

35. Nobody is attacking you.

It's not about you.

[Torchlight]

40. Sounds serious

Good luck

[Littlered]

41. You have replied

To several of my posts in this manner. I don’t understand what you are saying.

[kelly1mm]

45. nut job but left wing ..... nt

[Littlered]

50. That's kinda what I am gathering

Now that I have had the time to read through this thread, sigh. There is just so much hate in the world. It really makes a persons soul ache.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

34. There is actually someone in this thread that said

they don't care that these 2 were cold-bloodedly murdered.

I won't link to it because I've put that person on full ignore, but you probably know which post I'm referring to.

[rollin74]

44. It was one of the most disgusting and hateful

things I’ve ever read on this site

I’m glad that the post was removed

[yardwork]

48. It had at least two recs before it was removed.

And there are plenty of other DUers posting "innocent questions" that indicate their support for cold-blooded murder.

[MustLoveBeagles]

47. Agreed 👍

[Lovie777]

51. Homo Sapiens are suppose to be the superior beings on planet earth...............

and yet, humans hate with utter contempt for life and mother earth, and apparently these are on the top of the list to kill and destroy:

Religion; power; greed; property; race.

[artemisia1]

52. That's why I love Mark Twain's quote about his dog.

"The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog."

Mark Twain