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LetMyPeopleVote

(163,805 posts)
2. Maddow Blog-Kristi Noem flunks an important test on the basic meaning of habeas corpus
Tue May 20, 2025, 04:24 PM
May 20

The homeland security secretary was asked to define habeas corpus. Her outrageously wrong answer was humiliating — but it was also important.

It's tempting to laugh at Kristi Noem’s humiliating ignorance about the meaning of habeas corpus, but this isn’t just some embarrassing gaffe.

Given the scope of her powers, her cluelessness matters.

(And in a healthier environment, Noem would be forced to resign in embarrassment right about now.)

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-05-20T16:48:08.242Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/kristi-noem-flunks-important-test-basic-meaning-habeas-corpus-rcna207982

There’s been considerable discussion in recent weeks about basic legal principles such as habeas corpus and the degree to which the Trump administration is hostile toward the bedrock foundations of the American system of government. What’s gone largely overlooked, however, is whether Trump administration officials have a high-school-civics-class-level understanding of what these legal principles are.

Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem botched questions about habeas corpus at a Senate hearing Tuesday, falsely asserting the check on the government’s power to detain people actually gives President Trump a “constitutional right” to conduct deportations.


There’s been considerable discussion in recent weeks about basic legal principles such as habeas corpus and the degree to which the Trump administration is hostile toward the bedrock foundations of the American system of government. What’s gone largely overlooked, however, is whether Trump administration officials have a high-school-civics-class-level understanding of what these legal principles are.

Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem botched questions about habeas corpus at a Senate hearing Tuesday, falsely asserting the check on the government’s power to detain people actually gives President Trump a “constitutional right” to conduct deportations.
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.....In case this weren’t quite enough, when Democratic Sen. Andy Kim of New Jersey asked the Cabinet secretary which part of the Constitution includes habeas corpus, Noem was again stumped.

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The significance of this goes well beyond marveling at a powerful official’s ignorance. Earlier this month, Stephen Miller, a White House deputy chief of staff, told reporters that White House officials are “actively looking” at possibly suspending the writ of habeas corpus. If this were to happen, the Trump administration would have the power to lock people up without charges, and prisoners would not have the ability to contest their incarceration.

Eleven days after Miller made those comments, the homeland security secretary couldn’t even offer a basic definition of what habeas corpus is — despite the scope of her powers, and despite the fact that this legal principle has existed for the better part of a millennium.

In a healthier political environment, a fiasco such as this one would lead to credible discussion about whether Noem should be forced to resign in embarrassment.

Aristus

(70,046 posts)
5. These chuzzlewits will never be embarrassed by how stupid they are.
Tue May 20, 2025, 05:01 PM
May 20

They revel in it. They think it's a virtue.

Timeflyer

(3,178 posts)
3. Thanks for posting. The rule of law is in grave danger if we don't resist this corrupt regime now, and don't give in.
Tue May 20, 2025, 04:35 PM
May 20

C_U_L8R

(47,374 posts)
4. I bet Trump doesn't know either.
Tue May 20, 2025, 04:55 PM
May 20

These bozos should get a pop quiz every time the cameras are on

spanone

(139,146 posts)
6. She knows nothing. Zero. Nada. Zip. Ziltch.
Tue May 20, 2025, 05:05 PM
May 20

I doubt she believed the Senator, she.s too fucking vapid.

calimary

(86,464 posts)
7. ... but she photographs well."
Tue May 20, 2025, 06:21 PM
May 20

Who knows? Maybe the donald uses a photo of her to - um - “please” himself during the MANY times when Melania can’t be found.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,940 posts)
8. I'll Bet She "Loves the Constitution"!
Tue May 20, 2025, 06:35 PM
May 20

This was mind numbingly stupid-but she was so certain in her ignorance. I do not fully understand One Named Kirk. E'ed Plebnista. Oh, and by the way, the spackle knife is not for applying make--up.

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Justice matters.

(8,388 posts)
10. There should be civic TESTS all potential candidates and appointees should PASS
Tue May 20, 2025, 07:29 PM
May 20
before they can be eligible for the positions they want to either get voted in or be appointed to.

The Founding Fathers never thought these ignorants would ever be for real anytime in the future, and here they are!
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