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underpants

(190,857 posts)
Tue May 20, 2025, 01:03 PM May 20

(Text) @grok is Pete Hegseth's claim that there is a massive surge in U.S. military recruitment true?

Hey @heffejeffe78, let's dive into Pete Hegseth's claim about a "massive surge" in U.S. military recruitment. Spoiler alert: it's not as straightforward as he makes it sound.
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First off, there's no denying that military recruitment has seen an uptick recently. The Defense Department reported a 12.5% increase in recruits for fiscal year 2024 compared to the previous year. That's a solid number, but let's not get carried away with the "massive surge" narrative. The truth is, this trend started before Trump was even back in office. Data shows enlistments began to rise around mid-2024, thanks to some major overhauls in the Army's recruiting strategy, not just a sudden wave of patriotism post-election.

Hegseth's timing is a bit off too. He claims it started at "election day for President Trump," but the numbers suggest otherwise. August 2024 saw more recruits than December, which was three months after the election. So, while Trump's re-election might have given a morale boost, it's not the sole reason for the increase.

And let's not forget, the military's supposed to be apolitical. Linking recruitment success directly to a political figure is a slippery slope. It's more about the hard work of recruiters and the strategic changes made, like adding new training units and revamping the recruiting corps.

So, is there a surge? Yes, but it's not the "record-breaking" or "barely able to keep up" scenario Hegseth paints. It's a steady improvement with multiple factors at play, not just a Trump effect. Don't believe everything you hear on Fox News, even if it's from a future Secretary of Defense. The numbers don't lie, but they also don't tell the whole story without context.



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(Text) @grok is Pete Hegseth's claim that there is a massive surge in U.S. military recruitment true? (Original Post) underpants May 20 OP
I thought that surges in recruitment were also reflective of what is happening economically? TexasTowelie May 20 #1
Yep, the employment outlook under trump and his job cuts etc... brush May 20 #2
I was going to say something similar.. FirstLight May 20 #5
Plus the training and experience Kaleva May 20 #6
Historically yes. underpants May 20 #7
Thankfully, it's sermingly hard to put out a large-language biocube May 20 #3
Tanking economy recruitment up JCMach1 May 20 #4
Never, ever, under no circumstances, volunteer. Ping Tung May 20 #8
Me too. 😆 underpants May 20 #9

TexasTowelie

(121,053 posts)
1. I thought that surges in recruitment were also reflective of what is happening economically?
Tue May 20, 2025, 01:11 PM
May 20

When the economy is strong the recruitment targets are more difficult to meet while the opposite is true in economic downturns.

FirstLight

(15,140 posts)
5. I was going to say something similar..
Tue May 20, 2025, 01:38 PM
May 20

My 22-year-old son is not doing well financially and was considering signing up. And while I don't like the idea at all, I do admit that there is some value to the income security and housing

underpants

(190,857 posts)
7. Historically yes.
Tue May 20, 2025, 02:50 PM
May 20

I’m sure there are articles as to why it’s rising.
I mean, it’s really self determined. You can go as far up as you want if you do everything right.

Ping Tung

(2,481 posts)
8. Never, ever, under no circumstances, volunteer.
Tue May 20, 2025, 02:59 PM
May 20

Which was the first thing I learned on the first day of boot camp.

underpants

(190,857 posts)
9. Me too. 😆
Tue May 20, 2025, 03:03 PM
May 20

In the building at Ft. Knox that they first enter in “Stripes” with all the flags. Right off the bus from Louisville.

Old crusty Drill Sergeant gets up. “So, you were all DUMB ENOUGH to volunteer for the Army. (pause) Don’t ever volunteer for anything”

I remember thinking that this is something I should remember.

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