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Miles Archer

(19,430 posts)
Mon May 19, 2025, 04:53 PM May 19

"So...what are you wearing?" Trump has a 2 hour phone call with his supervisor at the Kremlin, gets played again

Trump says Russia will ‘immediately’ work toward a ceasefire with Ukraine after phone call. But Putin seems unmoved

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/19/politics/trump-putin-call-ukraine-russia

For President Donald Trump, Monday’s phone call with Russian leader Vladimir Putin amounted to a major occasion — meant to ascertain his counterpart’s willingness to bring the conflict in Ukraine to an end.

For Putin, it seemed to be a much less momentous event. Unlike Trump, who conducted the two-hour conversation from the Oval Office and previewed the call ahead of time in all capital letters on social media, Putin did not clear his schedule. He phoned in from a school for gifted children in the Black Sea resort of Sochi, squeezing in Trump amid a tour of the facilities.

Afterward, it was evident each man viewed the call with differing levels of consequence. While Trump proclaimed in an optimistic social media post that the call “went very well” and that Russia and Ukraine had agreed to “immediately start negotiations toward a Ceasefire,” Putin made clear in his own comments he wasn’t budging from his maximalist demands to end the violence.

Without any major progress toward an immediate ceasefire, Trump sought to emphasize what he described as an excellent “tone and spirit” shared with the Kremlin leader. Putin, meanwhile, described the call as “meaningful and frank.”
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"So...what are you wearing?" Trump has a 2 hour phone call with his supervisor at the Kremlin, gets played again (Original Post) Miles Archer May 19 OP
"We have the concepts of a fake plan." - Pooty BoRaGard May 19 #1
Behold, two of the world's biggest BS artists Disaffected May 19 #2
As much as I hate to give Putin a compliment, he DOES know how to play Trump Miles Archer May 19 #3
Oh yes. Disaffected May 19 #4
Trump fancies himself such as great negotiator, his ego... Xolodno May 19 #5

Miles Archer

(19,430 posts)
3. As much as I hate to give Putin a compliment, he DOES know how to play Trump
Mon May 19, 2025, 06:01 PM
May 19

Then again, so do a lot of other world leaders. It ain't rocket science. Manipulating a dimwit is far from "Machiavellian."

BUT...I'm sure Putin wearies of Trump in pretty short order, so he knows what to say to him in order to send him packing and thinking "Good call. I've still got it."

And, 24 hours later, Putin's bombed another school or hospital.

Disaffected

(5,608 posts)
4. Oh yes.
Mon May 19, 2025, 06:45 PM
May 19

With Trump, his relatives and sycophants, you have enough instruments for a brass band. The only thing remaining are the musicians, of which there are many contenders, with Putin playing first trumpet.

Hmmm, I wonder what the band would be called?

Xolodno

(7,018 posts)
5. Trump fancies himself such as great negotiator, his ego...
Mon May 19, 2025, 09:15 PM
May 19

...won't allow him to accept failure or that a deal can't be made. He doesn't know how to walk away. He thinks his charm and wit is better than everyone else. When in reality, he's the actual "mark".

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