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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Mon May 19, 2025, 02:18 PM May 19

This Week in Trump Outrages: Habeas, Corruption and Dismantling the Research State

By Mort Kondracke

Donald Trump says he “does not know” whether persons facing deportation must get “due process of law.” However, the US Constitution and Supreme Court are quite clear: they must. But the Trump administration has expelled hundreds (or perhaps thousands) without giving them any opportunity to contact a lawyer, much less a judge.

To top it off, Trump’s top domestic adviser, Stephen Miller, says the administration is considering canceling the constitutional right of habeas corpus, which guarantees detainees the ability to challenge their confinement. The Constitution says the provision can be suspended only in times of war or insurrection.

Though Trump said he’d concentrate on removing violent criminals, US citizens, legal residents, ailing children, and long-resident undocumented immigrants have been caught up in deportation raids. One US citizen family in Oklahoma was rousted from its home in the middle of the night by immigration agents, traumatized, forced outside in the rain and had its home torn apart, with their phones, laptops and life savings in cash seized—all in a case of mistaken identity.

Trump also has tried to end the Temporary Protective Status program and other humanitarian parole programs, putting 1.4 million refugees in danger of deportation to such violent or repressive countries as Afghanistan, Haiti, Cuba and Venezuela. Lower courts have blocked the administration, but it has appealed to the Supreme Court. Meanwhile, the administration has offered refugee status to white South Africans, especially Afrikaners. Sixty have been admitted, but 67,000 others have expressed interest in the program.

https://www.postalley.org/2025/05/14/this-week-in-trump-outrages-habeus-corruption-and-dismantling-the-research-state/

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This Week in Trump Outrages: Habeas, Corruption and Dismantling the Research State (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 19 OP
Maddow Blog-Kristi Noem flunks an important test on the basic meaning of habeas corpus LetMyPeopleVote May 20 #1

LetMyPeopleVote

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1. Maddow Blog-Kristi Noem flunks an important test on the basic meaning of habeas corpus
Tue May 20, 2025, 02:13 PM
May 20

The homeland security secretary was asked to define habeas corpus. Her outrageously wrong answer was humiliating — but it was also important.

It's tempting to laugh at Kristi Noem’s humiliating ignorance about the meaning of habeas corpus, but this isn’t just some embarrassing gaffe.

Given the scope of her powers, her cluelessness matters.

(And in a healthier environment, Noem would be forced to resign in embarrassment right about now.)

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-05-20T16:48:08.242Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/kristi-noem-flunks-important-test-basic-meaning-habeas-corpus-rcna207982

There’s been considerable discussion in recent weeks about basic legal principles such as habeas corpus and the degree to which the Trump administration is hostile toward the bedrock foundations of the American system of government. What’s gone largely overlooked, however, is whether Trump administration officials have a high-school-civics-class-level understanding of what these legal principles are.

Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem botched questions about habeas corpus at a Senate hearing Tuesday, falsely asserting the check on the government’s power to detain people actually gives President Trump a “constitutional right” to conduct deportations.


There’s been considerable discussion in recent weeks about basic legal principles such as habeas corpus and the degree to which the Trump administration is hostile toward the bedrock foundations of the American system of government. What’s gone largely overlooked, however, is whether Trump administration officials have a high-school-civics-class-level understanding of what these legal principles are.

Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem botched questions about habeas corpus at a Senate hearing Tuesday, falsely asserting the check on the government’s power to detain people actually gives President Trump a “constitutional right” to conduct deportations.
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.....In case this weren’t quite enough, when Democratic Sen. Andy Kim of New Jersey asked the Cabinet secretary which part of the Constitution includes habeas corpus, Noem was again stumped.

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The significance of this goes well beyond marveling at a powerful official’s ignorance. Earlier this month, Stephen Miller, a White House deputy chief of staff, told reporters that White House officials are “actively looking” at possibly suspending the writ of habeas corpus. If this were to happen, the Trump administration would have the power to lock people up without charges, and prisoners would not have the ability to contest their incarceration.

Eleven days after Miller made those comments, the homeland security secretary couldn’t even offer a basic definition of what habeas corpus is — despite the scope of her powers, and despite the fact that this legal principle has existed for the better part of a millennium.

In a healthier political environment, a fiasco such as this one would lead to credible discussion about whether Noem should be forced to resign in embarrassment.

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