To EVERYONE who ever shouted "Genocide Joe" or who encouraged their constituents to vote "Uncommitted"...

[Oopsie Daisy]

Seriously....



... they know who they are. (And so do you!)

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Just yesterday had conversation with Liberal Slash Progressive

That yes the piece of shit as I call him is destroying the country but he could not vote for Hillary because of her position on Haiti and he could not vote for Kamala because of her position or assumed position on Gaza.

This is why our country is being destroyed by a piece of shit, fuck fuck fuck fuck

[sheshe2]

7. Translation:

They could not vote for Those Women!

[mcar]

21. They expect Democrats to be their ideal lover

and act accordingly when that impossible expectation doesn't happen.

Republicans say, "whatever, we'll be in power."

[Martin Eden]

25. Purity is the ally of Evil

In the last three presidential elections, either a Democrat or Donald Trump would win the White House and all that goes with it.

Any citizen who understood the catastrophe of a Trump presidency and did not cast their vote to prevent that shares the blame for all that is transpiring now.

Did the "Genocide Joe" crowd actually think Trump would put more pressure on Netanyahu and withold offensive weapons from Israel?

If they believed that, they're stupid.

Even worse if they refused to vote for Joe as a matter of "principle."

[Scubamatt]

27. This is so well said . . . .

[Oopsie Daisy]

44. Daaaaamn! Perfect! (May I quote you on that in the future?)

>> Purity is the ally of Evil

It sounds like a paradox, but in this case, it's true.

[Martin Eden]

46. Of course you may! Never heard of or used it before, but seemed apt for this issue

Those who seek purity in politics will never find it.

If every perceived infraction is disqualifying, they have in fact canceled the only power they have against evil.

[betsuni]

49. Convincing people that politics is a good vs evil moral purity sort of personal religion

wherein Democrats are corrupt immoral sinners one cannot possibly vote one's conscious for is diabolical.

[Martin Eden]

50. Politics is necessary to defeat evil. Purity is not inherently evil.

But purity is a concept, impossible to implement in any practical sense. When purity prevents obstructs the good, evil is enabled.

[Eliot Rosewater]

54. I rarely used the word stupid because usually "ignorant" is what applies

But this is just a stupid position my friend took and he shares it with millions unfortunately and it was the same in 2016.

In 2016 that attitude received a lot of support by a certain someone who was running for president and gave credence to that stupid thinking.

We literally cannot survive between the Maga idiots, the TikTok users who are too busy to vote and these idiots we are talking about.

[Eliot Rosewater]

55. I rarely used the word stupid because usually "ignorant" is what applies

But this is just a stupid position my friend took and he shares it with millions unfortunately and it was the same in 2016.

In 2016 that attitude received a lot of support by a certain someone who was running for president and gave credence to that stupid thinking.

We literally cannot survive between the Maga idiots, the TikTok users who are too busy to vote and these idiots we are talking about.

[LS0999]

32. I could not vote for Trump because of his position on America

That's all I have to say about it.

[Dem4life1970]

36. This is an advantage that Republicans have

They understand that when they don't vote for the Republican, they are in fact de facto voting for the Democrat. The same is true in reverse. I'm looking at you Ralph Nader and Jill Stein voters...

[yardwork]

38. People like that are easy marks for propaganda.

Every election cycle they get suckered in by the latest propaganda, spread by billionaires who want the Republican to win.

[Oopsie Daisy]

53. I apologize for not seeing your comment sooner... you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!

Gullible, smug, certain in their righteousness and the belief that "good always wins". Sigh.

[SocialDemocrat61]

47. People like that just want to sit on their high horse

and pass judgment on everyone else to feed their egos.

[Oopsie Daisy]

59. Agreed!

Sad, isn't it?

[Keepthesoulalive]

51. Trust me many of the people who supposedly supported Palestine.

Do not regret their vote . It tells me they were after something else. How can you be proud of supporting a third Party, not voting or voting for trump? They are very proud of not voting for Joe or Kamala in spite of the atrocities committed against their people.

[Martin Eden]

56. If they say they are "proud" for standing on "principle"

Then they can't (or refuse) to see past a righteous cause to the real world consequences of a Trump presidency, not only for Palestinians but for people worldwide. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are not the ones being punished.

Perhaps their protests were more fashion than substance, or they simply won't admit to themselves and others they made a terrible mistake.

Setting them aside, I have to wonder if Hamas anticipated the sustained severity of Israel's response. They had to know Gaza was going to be hit, and hit hard. I surmised their strategy was to garner international sympathy and support. That has materialized, but hasn't changed facts on the ground.

I think it's important to remember the I/P conflict goes beyond the multiple generations of our lifetime. Struggle over the Holy Land spans millenia. Like Putin, Hamas desires the collapse of the USA as the dominant nation on the world stage. Without US financial and military aid, Israel's position is considerably weaker.

Hemmed into an open air prison (somewhat of Hamas own making) their desperate position called for desperate measures. Their long term goal (which I do NOT support) is the destruction of the Jewish State, which of course means eliminating or driving out the Jewish people.

Now Trump says he will force an exodus of Palestinians from Gaza. Is the "Genocide Joe" crowd proud of that? I give them no credit for understanding real geopolitics, or having the maturity to see past their own personal passion.

[Keepthesoulalive]

57. You should see the responses on Reddit

It could be bots or crap stirrers but overwhelmingly they stood with their decision to boycott.they also protested a speech by reverend Warnock . I have no idea what they hope to accomplish but they don’t give a hoot about the Palestinians and their terror. They never ever blame anything on the republicans and Netanyahu.

[Martin Eden]

58. I'll take your word for it.

Sounds like they're intractable. Oh well, recriminations don't matter. Nor do they help.

We have more important matters at hand, like saving our Constitutional democracy.

[mcar]

2. This!

Fck ‘em all.

[mzmolly]

3. This

right here. F them!

[Oopsie Daisy]

8. I'm not surprised.

[betsuni]

10. "Freedom fighter" fans who don't know what the word "genocide" means can get very touchy.

[Oopsie Daisy]

15. Indeed... ignorance can make some folks feel empowered...

... as well as making them feel paranoid and vulnerable. That explains the lashing-out for no rational reason, but it does not excuse it. In my opinion.

[sheshe2]

18. And again!

🤔

[Oopsie Daisy]

43. Fascinating. I guess a nerve has been struck.

Aside from that, it's difficult to know what to make of it.

[sheshe2]

45. It seems someone took it 'personally'...

which is pretty silly.

[Oopsie Daisy]

52. Yes it is.

And if true, it reveals much. The old maxim is true that actions speak louder than words.

[marble falls]

13. And then guess what happened next!

[LexVegas]

5. How about people here that said Joe was complicit in Gaza genocide? nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

11. Yep.

They were very vocal, albeit, not that many, but they know who they are.

[Hekate]

20. They know who the hell they are. Are they happy now?

[yardwork]

39. I'm sure they are.

They get to complain about how awful everything is, which seems to be their main motivation.

No accounting for some people's hobbies.

[mcar]

22. Yep.

[Martin Eden]

28. The question is whether or not they cast their vote for Joe

Can someone here openly state they refused to vote for the Democratic nominee for president and still remain a member of the DU community?

[Meowmee]

6. Yes, the people who have likely destroyed this country

I hold them responsible for my father's murder by covid etc. too.

[sheshe2]

9. Abso-f**king-lutely!

Thank you, Oopsie Daisy.

[marble falls]

12. I'm as strong as a Biden supporter as anybody, but isn't this a good time for everyone to cut the crap and dig in?

Just sayin'.

[Oopsie Daisy]

16. No. Wrong. Now is the PERFECT time... when people are paying attention.

I'm "just sayin'" too.

[Scubamatt]

29. If the error isn't called out now

we'll keep making the same mistake over, and over and over again.

[SocialDemocrat61]

48. What mistake?

The mistake of stabbing a good man in back?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

42. I agree with the OP

[MarineCombatEngineer]

14. Perfect.

[usonian]

17. Hate is blind.

I agree.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220325936

Love Mister Bean!!!

Joe was carrying out commitments made to Israel (not Netanyahu) and was being influenced strongly by Harris and no doubt, AOC and Bernie to help Palestinians in the grip of Hamas.

It was MORE THAN OBVIOUS that the alternative to Joe and Kamala was the assured destruction we see of Gaza.

THEY KNEW, but their hate blinded them to the destruction that they BROUGHT ON.

[Oopsie Daisy]

19. Yes. And ignorance is blind, too.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

23. Interesting,

I don't see any of the usual suspects coming to this thread to defend those assholes that chanted Genocide Joe or urged voters to either vote for Been A Dick Donald or don't vote at all.
Very curious.

[Martin Eden]

30. Isn't it against DU rules to urge members against voting for the Democrat?

I recall heated discussion about the Biden administration's policies and actions regarding the I/P conflict, but voting for The Felon or 3rd party?

I didn't see that, but I don't read every post.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

31. It is against the ToS,

but there is such a thing as nullification.
Just like in real life, enough sympathizers can affect the outcome of a verdict.

[Martin Eden]

34. Please clarify

Are you saying that some DU members actually urged voting for Trump or witholding their vote from the Democratic nominee, but the "verdict" allowed them to remain because of sympathy for urging such a thing?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

35. I'm not getting into that, it would be on the edge and I prefer to keep my 100% rating.

Have a great Monday.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

37. BTW, I didn't say anyone here urged that,

I said that some here defended those that were saying that, there is a difference between the 2.

[Martin Eden]

40. Thanks for the clarification

Yes, I recall some saying they understood (or sympathized with) a "principled" decision to not vote for Joe based on US complicity in the slaughter in Gaza.

I've been a DU member more than 23 years, but don't recall EVER seeing a legitimate member of this community urging to vote against the Democrat in a general election.

Heated arguments regarding the qualities and policies of Democratic candidates and office holders, but criticism isn't the same as witholding a vote.

[Behind the Aegis]

24. Myopic, purity demanding ASSHOLES!

They are part of the reason we, and the world, are now suffering from Tyrant Trump!

So, I will join in the chorus of "FUCK YOU!".

[spanone]

26. K&R

[PunkinPi]

33. K&R nt

[LetMyPeopleVote]

41. Trump administration working on plan to move 1 million Palestinians to Libya

For all of the idiots who voted for trump or did not vote because of Gaza, this is a big FAFO

Trump administration working on plan to move 1 million Palestinians to Libya

— MSNBC (@msnbc.com) 2025-05-16T20:09:15.839Z

Link to tweet

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-working-plan-move-1-million-palestinians-libya-rcna207224

The Trump administration is working on a plan to permanently relocate up to 1 million Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to Libya, five people with knowledge of the effort told NBC News.

The plan is under serious enough consideration that the administration has discussed it with Libya’s leadership, two people with direct knowledge of the plans and a former U.S. official said.

In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the administration would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars of funds that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, those three people said.

No final agreement has been reached, and Israel has been kept informed of the administration’s discussions, the same three sources said.

The State Department and the National Security Council did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

[Oopsie Daisy]

60. The most anti-Biden (or anti-Democrat) elected officials are noticeably silent *

* and not even bothering to shit-on or criticize Trump as bitterly as they did to Biden and Harris. What's up with that? I thought this was an issue that was near-and-dear. But apparently the outrage is selective and varies from year to year.

[betsuni]

61. Noisy "standing up to" "taking on" "holding feet to fire" directed at Dems only. "Grassroots" status quo fundraising.

Solidarity.

[Oopsie Daisy]

62. "Friends, will you split your donation with me and *"

"* whatever-issue-is-hot (or whatever candidate is making news). Just click here."

Ugh. I hate opportunistic fundraising on the backs of Democrats and fueled by contempt of Democrats and the Democratic party.

Solidarity, indeed. 🤢

Enough already.